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darthbob88 posted:Alligators are classed as [PET_EXOTIC], so they are tameable, but might be more difficult than regular critters to tame. Well there's a goal for future forts, ok
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I think Kruggsmash tried that once and the results were pretty underwhelming. Fun experiment though.
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Mar 26, 2021 22:44
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I think it's established that "underwhelming" is very much my idiom
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Mar 26, 2021 22:50
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Uh pretty much any animal in game is tamable folks. Dwarves just start out with certain animals already domesticated but theres nothing stopping you from taming a bunch of giant louse or whatever. Im not going to go into the details of how it all works because it's all on the wiki. Easy way to tame alligators is either ring the body of water with cage traps or make a channel lined with cage traps and tap it so they flood out into it and get caught. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Mar 26, 2021 23:11
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if it can reproduce in captivity and isn't sapient/civilized you can domesticate it, basically although megabeasts may still have loyalty / auto-aggro issues when confronted with military castes
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Mar 27, 2021 03:48
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:if it can reproduce in captivity and isn't sapient/civilized you can domesticate it, basically Weird interactions with sapients tbh, if you train them sometimes they can be recruited into a squad and from there they can be invited as full time citizens if they request it. Depends on their specific token mix iirc and probably only comes up with modded creatures. if they kill people it becomes funky as per usal.
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Mar 27, 2021 03:51
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one time i tamed a hydra, let it out of its cage and it went around killing every single citizen with ease until finally 200+ people who were never afraid of the tame beast finally vanished
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Mar 27, 2021 06:51
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Bideo James posted:one time i tamed a hydra, let it out of its cage and it went around killing every single citizen with ease until finally 200+ people who were never afraid of the tame beast finally vanished yeah this is what i was alluding to in my previous post -- there is / used to be a bug where members of your military would instantly aggro on megabeasts even if they were tamed, and then the megabeast would aggro back and kill everyone while your regular dwarves still think it's friendly it may have been fixed in this latest patch as a closely related bug where the same thing happened with fortress visitors was fixed but i haven't tested it yet
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darthbob88 posted:Alligators are classed as [PET_EXOTIC], so they are tameable, but might be more difficult than regular critters to tame. so, finding an embark that reliably has alligators or preferably, saltwater crocodiles, is turning out to be a bit of a pain 
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Apr 8, 2021 11:58
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Weird, just about every tropical or sub tropical river I've embarked on has alligators.
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Apr 8, 2021 12:05
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yeah same here, right up until I want to find them, of course
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Apr 8, 2021 12:45
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Just use cave crocs
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Doesn't it take a hellishly long amount of time for your civilization to learn how to domesticate animals? Like yes, your fortress contributes to that so technically it can be done, but in the meantime you're going decades ingame retraining the same animals into the semi-tame state or whatever
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Apr 8, 2021 22:05
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For the purposes of populating a moat does it really matter? Yes they will attack Urist Mcclusmy who fell in, but gently caress it he was drowning anyway.
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Apr 8, 2021 22:19
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Telsa Cola posted:Just use cave crocs probably going to do this, yes. Pharnakes posted:For the purposes of populating a moat does it really matter? That's not the point
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Apr 8, 2021 22:23
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looks like a nice place
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Flesh Forge posted:looks like a nice place looks terrible to me, tin and no copper.
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Apr 8, 2021 22:59
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it's ok there's only like 120 tiles of tin anyway e: getting this thing where a siege comes, I activate the civilian burrow and the siege immediate leaves  it isn't 100% of the time but it's just happened 3 times in a row Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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Apr 8, 2021 23:20
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ninjewtsu posted:Doesn't it take a hellishly long amount of time for your civilization to learn how to domesticate animals? Like yes, your fortress contributes to that so technically it can be done, but in the meantime you're going decades ingame retraining the same animals into the semi-tame state or whatever
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ninjewtsu posted:Doesn't it take a hellishly long amount of time for your civilization to learn how to domesticate animals? Like yes, your fortress contributes to that so technically it can be done, but in the meantime you're going decades ingame retraining the same animals into the semi-tame state or whatever No, Not how it works. Your civilization slowly receives training knowledge for whatever species you are working on with each caraven. This pool of knowledge can vary in levels but ultimately it just effects the quality skill roll for training a species in subsquent forts in the same world. You can never get full civ wide domestication through this knowledge transfer. It just acts as a skill roll modifier. But that's not important really, because full species domestication on an individual fort level is ridiculously easy to do. Any species with a child stage can give you a domesticated (read: You never have to train them again/preform upkeep) population by simply snagging a breeding pair and then training the offspring while it's in the child stage. The child will then become fully tame/domesticated and never need retraining. Animals inheirt their training stuff from the mother so if the offspring is female you can safely breed it and never have to worry about training it's kids. The quality skill role for trainers is basically useless outside of extreme edge cases where I guess you are trying to rapidly train a large population of things that can never be fully domesticated, like dragons and hydras. In this sceneario it just means you get to wait longer between training sessions. Edit: GCS can never be fully domesticated so I guess having a high knowledge for them would be handy for running an extensive silk farm. TLDR: The only impact the knowledge level of your fort/civ has mechanically is a modifer to the training skill roll that effects quality. It doesn't do anything else. To get a fully domesticated population you need a breeding pair of a species that has a child stage (like 95% of everything does). You train the parents and then train the child while it's still young. This domesticates the child and their offspring will also be domesticated. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Apr 9, 2021 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5x_ZCo2B2k
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Apr 11, 2021 20:56
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Looking great 
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Telsa Cola posted:Edit: GCS can never be fully domesticated Thought this said "GBS can never be fully domesticated."
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Telsa Cola posted:Edit: GCS can never be fully domesticated so I guess having a high knowledge for them would be handy for running an extensive silk farm. i always mod this when i start a new game because it's just too tragic otherwise both because pet giant spiders are cool, but also because they're so rare they quickly go extinct in the wild
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Execution idea: Capture all the giant cave spiders you possibly can. Put them all in a locked room with a 5-10 zlevel drop down to it. Put any goblins/vampires/thieves/nobles in a cage and throw them in. Drop shouldn't kill them but at least stun them enough to be easy pray for the spiders. Maybe you could even rig up something to drop invading straight in but since you couldn't strip and disarm them beforehand they'd just kill the spiders unless you made the fall much longer. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Apr 13, 2021 |
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Apr 13, 2021 12:51
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The classic solution is to arrange an enclosure with walls than can be shot through and also a mechanism to block line of sight when it's time to harvest the silk. The downside is that the spider wont be able to kill the invaders you drop into the target area so you have to some other way to deal with them afterwards.
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Apr 13, 2021 17:11
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you don't want falling invaders to land on your animals though because that would kill the animal but be like a big fluffy cushion for the falling person.
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Apr 13, 2021 20:37
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Set it up like the rancor pit. Keep the spiders behind a switchable door in the pit.
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Glory to Italia!
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FreudianSlippers posted:Execution idea: This raises an interesting point. Carnivores don't eat. One of the main purposes of a pit full.of vicious beasts is that it's somewhat self cleaning. I think that might have something to do with why the animal pit never felt right to me in DF.
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ILL Machina posted:Set it up like the rancor pit. Keep the spiders behind a switchable door in the pit. That seems like a smart move. Maybe even fortifications between the door and the pit so the spiders can be kept separate from Dwarves sent into to collect loot and webs afterwards.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Execution idea: Anything that shoots webs doesn't really need any help/things to make other things easy prey given that webs are extremely broken.
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FreudianSlippers posted:That seems like a smart move. Maybe even fortifications between the door and the pit so the spiders can be kept separate from Dwarves sent into to collect loot and webs afterwards. You just swap the drop/collection between the two sides of the wall/door. One is empty and good for collection/dumping, the other is infested.
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Nah. One of the better ways to do this is have two room seperated by a hallway in the middle with a drawbridge against the spider side. Rooms have embrasures or windows Put a goblin or cat or whatever in one room and spiders in the other. Whenever you need to get silk you lower the drawbridge, spider sees cat and shoots silk, then you raise the drawbridge cutting LOS which gets the spider to stop. Some of the silk will get smooshed by the draw bridge action and you can fiddle with it for ~optimal~ returns but since its basically an infinite silk farm until the spider dies I don't really care.
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ah, happy worker's day to all toads and dworfs
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Automated labor selection? Does that mean Dwarves will decide for themselves who is a stoneworker, grower, craftdwarf, etc? I would be loving ecstatic if they decided that for themselves based on their personalities
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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/975370/view/3025834967790391683 Bridges that you can see which way they retract?? Now we just need some kind of differentiation between raising and retracting.
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A bit of a shot in the dark here, but does anyone have a copy of the full soundsense music pack that was compiled for Bronzestabbed? As noted on the first page of the thread there is an early version available (https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3492084&perpage=40&pagenumber=22#post405346154) but it only contains a few of the songs, which is a pity since the full pack was quite nice. Would love to have this thing again.
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If the songs themselves are what you're after, I grabbed a bunch from Tindeck back before that went the way of the Dodo: BronzestabbedMusic.zip There's stuff from Loden Taylor, Orthogonalus, PureKamikaze, and a couple other creators; comparing them to that prerelease Krysmphoenix pack shows all those tracks and a few more. The actual XML file (and associated directory structure) to configure in-game Soundsense triggers is nowhere to be found, I'm sorry to say. Guess I didn't hoard this stuff as obsessively as I could have.
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Crackmaster posted:If the songs themselves are what you're after, I grabbed a bunch from Tindeck back before that went the way of the Dodo: Aw man, thank you so much. Time for some heavy-grade nostalgia 
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