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Cactus
Jun 24, 2006

rotinaj posted:

Podcast ads have been getting really dire and I do not know how people think that “I’m Joey Joe Joe shabadoo junior!” “And I’m Bobby Butts!” “We talk about anything we want here!” “And we get a little crazy” is gonna make people want to listen to your poo poo.

...oR wHeReVeR yOu GeT yOuR PoDcAsTs FrOm

Really? Really? You mean to tell me I can get a podcast on the app I use to get podcasts? That's GENIUS! Thanks for telling me that for the third time in forty minutes.

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feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Just jam that Forward 30 Seconds button. I'm legitimately surprised that all the podcast apps haven't colluded to take that away from us.

Bummer about Tides. I really did mean to get to more of their back catalogue.

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

feedmyleg posted:

Just jam that Forward 30 Seconds button. I'm legitimately surprised that all the podcast apps haven't colluded to take that away from us.

Bummer about Tides. I really did mean to get to more of their back catalogue.

But I do like hearing podcast ads when they are trying to recommend something enjoyable to me. There’s a million podcasts out there and I constantly am searching for new ones. I work in a science lab and we always want a podcast to listen to as we do monotonous, repetitive work in a clean room. Because of the vent hoods and air purifiers, a lot of podcasts just don’t work, so we are always trying new ones. It would be nice if ads would, like, inform me about the content of a podcast and the actual sense of humor of the participants, and not just be a bad morning zoo crew ad.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

feedmyleg posted:

Just jam that Forward 30 Seconds button. I'm legitimately surprised that all the podcast apps haven't colluded to take that away from us.

Bummer about Tides. I really did mean to get to more of their back catalogue.

Huh, turns out that you can still actually download all the Tides episodes directly from the Wondery website:
https://wondery.com/shows/tides-of-history/

You have to do it manually, one by one, and then of course they're not in your podcasts app, but you can at least hear them.

Honestly, for me the biggest bummer about modern podcasting is that the heady 1.0 communal indie days are long gone, and the gatekeeping suits have all moved in. Feels like a Mike Duncan or even a Dan Carlin would struggle to actually get off the ground these days without joining a big network, and that of course puts the know-it-all execs, MBAs, and techbros back in charge.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I don't enjoy hearing any ad ever, period. No matter how relevant it is to me. If I want podcast suggestions I can do a whole lot better than listening to whatever random nonsense they're trying to push on me this week.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

feedmyleg posted:

Just jam that Forward 30 Seconds button. I'm legitimately surprised that all the podcast apps haven't colluded to take that away from us.

Bummer about Tides. I really did mean to get to more of their back catalogue.

There are podcast apps that let you automatically fast forward a set amount of time at the beginning of every episode. Of course tides of history circumvents that by having a little podcast intro, followed by ads, so you lose out on some content if you do it.

Tides of history also has some of the worst ads. 'BUSINESS WARRRRS'

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Just hit that forward button 1-5 times depending on podcast, no big deal.

I think in today’s world someone like Carlin might struggle to get off the ground, but someone like Duncan would be fine. History of Rome stands on its own.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Jordan7hm posted:

Just hit that forward button 1-5 times depending on podcast, no big deal.
Or, in the case of the Dollop, 20-30 times.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Jordan7hm posted:

I think in today’s world someone like Carlin might struggle to get off the ground, but someone like Duncan would be fine. History of Rome stands on its own.

I think it might be the other way around. Neither one had any credentials or serious education in history when they started, but Carlin was at least radio trained with a bombastic personality. Duncan's early episodes were pretty rough, and I think he'd have a harder time standing out in a field crowded with more credentialed people these days.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011
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Appoda
Oct 30, 2013

I don't listen to many podcast ad rolls anymore, but when I do I'm happy when it's something normal. Like where to go for gambling in my state or ethical, pay-what-you-want porn sites. A Gene Wolfe podcast I listen to does fake ads, and even puts in their episode descriptions "brought to you by (gag product)".

History related: to bandwagon the recs, History of Philosophy without any gaps will fill a bunch of your time and is fairly plain in its delivery. Can't go wrong with China History Podcast either.

fuf
Sep 12, 2004

haha

Jordan7hm posted:

Just hit that forward button 1-5 times depending on podcast, no big deal.

it's a big deal if it wakes you up, or if you're working out, cooking, driving, or engaged in some other activity

when are you listening to podcasts while just looking at your phone ready to hit the forward button?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
When I watch TV I have my remote handy at all times to mute the ads. When I listen to podcasts I have my phone handy at all times to skip the ads.

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
Say what you will about podcast ads but I found Crime in sports and small town murder through PodcastOne's ads

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

fuf posted:

it's a big deal if it wakes you up, or if you're working out, cooking, driving, or engaged in some other activity

when are you listening to podcasts while just looking at your phone ready to hit the forward button?

In most podcast apps you can hit the “skip track” button on your headphones/car and it’ll skip forward a configurable amount but typically 15-30s.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Wyman had some truly dire ad reads in the early days of Tides / Fall of Rome, or at least dire in comparison to the quality of said shows. Maybe his book will sell enough copies that he can go independent again :v:

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

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CommonShore posted:

I'm caught up on Tides of History, Revolutions, History of Byzantium, History of English, and Inward Empires. Where do I go next?

I like extended prose essay or academic interview format and dislike panel of talking heads podcasts.

Derek Davison's foreign exchanges podcast is wonderful and also dry.

fuf
Sep 12, 2004

haha

feedmyleg posted:

When I watch TV I have my remote handy at all times to mute the ads. When I listen to podcasts I have my phone handy at all times to skip the ads.


Arcsech posted:

In most podcast apps you can hit the “skip track” button on your headphones/car and it’ll skip forward a configurable amount but typically 15-30s.

the day i stop being annoyed at ads is the day the bankers win!!

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Our Fake History is pretty good for what I would say are beginning-to-moderate in depth overviews of particular topics that you might not know about, and will set you up for looking into more on your own recently. He just did a two-parter on the history of the Ethiopian claims to own the Ark of the Covenant that was used to discuss the history of Ethiopia, its particular type of Christianity, the Kebra Negast, its relation with other Christian and Muslim powers, etc.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
It's easily my favorite history podcast at the moment.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011
History of Philosophy without any gaps ftw.

Straw poll: Is History of China Podcast or Chinese History Podcast the better one to get in to?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Arrhythmia posted:

Straw poll: Is History of China Podcast or Chinese History Podcast the better one to get in to?

They're totally different. The History of China is a chronological telling of Chinese history in detail, currently up to the early Ming. Chinese History Podcast has less detail and bounces around to whatever topic he's interested in at the time.

Appoda
Oct 30, 2013

I was into Our Fake History until he started doing subjects that either didn't have much of a story, or was obviously false like "did aliens build the pyramids." I think he's trying to speak to a younger audience and disprove some of the more dangerous conspiracy theories out there, which is part and parcel with the pod title and not a bad thing at all, but I get that stuff well enough from my more in depth pods.

His podcasting style is also like he's always stretching for time. Between the intro, his second intro, the ads, his slow and deliberate delivery method, and the patreon shill, there's like 15-20 minutes of podcast in every episode.


/complaining over. Our Fake History is a good pod. I might go back to it now that a certain gaming podcast is ending today and I'll need another two hours of listening filled.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Appoda posted:

a certain gaming podcast is ending today

Which one?

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

Cockblocktopus posted:

Infamous America is pretty fun if a little different from what you're asking for; it focuses on true crime-type stories from US History (the Black Sox, Bonnie and Clyde, Leopold and Loeb, currently the Miami Drug War) in a pretty straightforward narrative.

Just started listening to the first episode on Salem and so far I like it. Think I will make it my next podcast to catch up on all episode. And most of the topics are a interest.

Appoda posted:

His podcasting style is also like he's always stretching for time. Between the intro, his second intro, the ads, his slow and deliberate delivery method, and the patreon shill, there's like 15-20 minutes of podcast in every episode.

Agree with that. I stopped listening a while ago cause I noticed I'm like 15 minutes into the episode and he still hasn't even started the actual story yet. I occasionally still grab some here and there if the topic is very interesting to me (This newest one on the Ark has always been an interesting topic). It is still a worth while podcast to listen to

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Snowy posted:

Which one?

Giant Bomb I assume?

Speaking of skipping, when are we going the get "The Podcast Listener's" bluetooth headphones?
Single button to jump forward would be a godsend.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

Grand Fromage posted:

They're totally different. The History of China is a chronological telling of Chinese history in detail, currently up to the early Ming. Chinese History Podcast has less detail and bounces around to whatever topic he's interested in at the time.

Yeah I get that but which one do you like more.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

~Coxy posted:

Giant Bomb I assume?

Speaking of skipping, when are we going the get "The Podcast Listener's" bluetooth headphones?
Single button to jump forward would be a godsend.

I have 3 year old Cowin E7 cans and they have a forward button on them. They're great.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Grand Fromage posted:

They're totally different. The History of China is a chronological telling of Chinese history in detail, currently up to the early Ming. Chinese History Podcast has less detail and bounces around to whatever topic he's interested in at the time.

As a complement to those two, I'd also mention With Chinese Characteristics. They take a bit lighter approach to Chinese history while still managing to cover the bases of whatever topic they're talking about.

I've started listening to the last several episodes after, of all things, seeing a banner ad it for it here, and found it worthwhile. Apparently at least one (maybe both?) of the hosts are goons - any podcast that uses this graphic for their episode on the kidnapping of Sun Yat-Sen definitely has some goon stink on them:

Appoda
Oct 30, 2013

Snowy posted:

Which one?

Giant Beastcast, yeah. Giant Bombcast seems like it'll truck along but maybe not in a form that will be totally recognizable to us who have been listening to the same dudes for a decade plus.


I am reminded that Revolutions is going to finish soon too, so that'll be another staple of my podcast diet out. Fortunately(?) Duncan is having Life happen to him over and over, which has the side effect of extending the end of the Russian Revolution, which is probably a ways off anyway.

This whole week has got me thinking about how long some people have been doing this. Like how long has Carlin been making these, lol? Feels like he's been doing it for thirty years. CHP, Philosophy and History of English are all over or near the 10-year mark, too. Behind the Bastards has only been going for three but Robert sounds burned out with all the work, activism, being part of the American political discourse, and also spending several hours a week reading and writing about literally the worst people in the world.

That dude is just gonna run off into the woods one day and his producer is going to be like :shrug:

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

Appoda posted:

Giant Beastcast, yeah. Giant Bombcast seems like it'll truck along but maybe not in a form that will be totally recognizable to us who have been listening to the same dudes for a decade plus.


I am reminded that Revolutions is going to finish soon too, so that'll be another staple of my podcast diet out. Fortunately(?) Duncan is having Life happen to him over and over, which has the side effect of extending the end of the Russian Revolution, which is probably a ways off anyway.

This whole week has got me thinking about how long some people have been doing this. Like how long has Carlin been making these, lol? Feels like he's been doing it for thirty years. CHP, Philosophy and History of English are all over or near the 10-year mark, too. Behind the Bastards has only been going for three but Robert sounds burned out with all the work, activism, being part of the American political discourse, and also spending several hours a week reading and writing about literally the worst people in the world.

That dude is just gonna run off into the woods one day and his producer is going to be like :shrug:

Mike Duncan from the revolutions podcast has implied that he has some plans for a future series right? We'll probably just have to wait a while.

Does anyone have any good articles about the business behind podcasting? How the sponsorship deals work, etc?

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
After listening to the Lions Led By Donkeys series about the Iran-Iraq war I wished that Mike would do a Revolutions series about the Iranian Revolution (although I'd bet that would be pretty far outside his wheelhouse skills-wise)?

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


The Fall of Civilizations podcast is 100% my jam and I'm swallowing it whole. The Greenland Vikings episode was fantastic.

I like the content of the British History podcast but so far I'm bouncing off the tone. Someone noted that it in some way improves after a few episodes: does this mean fewer lame jokes and fluffy editorial asides?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


kanonvandekempen posted:

Mike Duncan from the revolutions podcast has implied that he has some plans for a future series right? We'll probably just have to wait a while.

Not even implied, he's said he has a few ideas and has to pick one. But the Russian series is going to still be going for a while. I dunno if he's going to start the next podcast right away or write his Aurelian book first.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

CommonShore posted:

The Fall of Civilizations podcast is 100% my jam and I'm swallowing it whole. The Greenland Vikings episode was fantastic.

drat, somehow this went under my radar but I am fully on board.

JaneError
Feb 4, 2016

how would i even breathe on the moon?

CommonShore posted:

I like the content of the British History podcast but so far I'm bouncing off the tone. Someone noted that it in some way improves after a few episodes: does this mean fewer lame jokes and fluffy editorial asides?

Ehh, not so much. The production values and his delivery (ie, less rambling) gets better, but his tone is always on the more informal side. I don't mind it personally, but it's not for everyone.

busalover
Sep 12, 2020

JaneError posted:

Ehh, not so much. The production values and his delivery (ie, less rambling) gets better, but his tone is always on the more informal side. I don't mind it personally, but it's not for everyone.

Is that the show where the guy talks like a youtuber?

meefistopheles
Nov 11, 2013

Schadenboner posted:

After listening to the Lions Led By Donkeys series about the Iran-Iraq war I wished that Mike would do a Revolutions series about the Iranian Revolution (although I'd bet that would be pretty far outside his wheelhouse skills-wise)?

The first episode or two of blowback goes into a little colonial history and background of the Iran/Iraq war, but probably not as much depth as you're looking for.

PerilPastry
Oct 10, 2012
Any good podcasts that delve into the Renaissance? :)

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Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

PerilPastry posted:

Any good podcasts that delve into the Renaissance? :)

History of philosophy just finished a series on Renaissance philosophy

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