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Nerat, haven't done that one myself.
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Nerat because I hate Ashe and the Disfavoured too much to consider them valid options.
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I find it funny just how badly Ashe poisons the opinions on him, if this set of voting is anything to go by.
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Looks like we're going with Nerat gang!
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Governor Boris and the Treachery of the Great General Last time on Tyranny, we were once again faced with the choice between an opportunistic insane murderer who tried to be everything to everyone and a fascist strongman. Goons came out strongly in favor of the former on the grounds of "gently caress Graven Ashe", and I can't really blame them! I wanted to take a look at one of Ashe's statements before we were prompted to make the decision. Last update posted:
We didn't bring this up at all! There are a lot of hints that on some level Ashe realizes what he's sunk down to, and I suspect on some level Ashe realizes that he is a coward. Remember, when Cleopatra confronted him, he hid behind the men and women he supposedly prioritized above all else until it was clear he couldn't hide any more and died a worthless coward. Today we're going to see how low the Great General sinks when he doesn't get his way.  We're not even going to TRY to get them to work together at this point.  : The Scarlet Chorus will lead. Look, the madman and his rabble don't have a secret Treason Truce that Eb told us about. Now, we as players on a second playthrough know the Voices set this entire thing up, but Boris has no way of knowing that.  This action violates Kyros' laws on so many levels. Killing a Fatebinder is an actual crime that Tunon comes down hard on, and, turns out, Nerat murdering a Fatebinder is a future quest that we can use to get him convicted by the Big T. Violating the blue flag truce is, in fact, a war crime that Archons get convicted on as well.  : A wise choice! The Scarlet Chorus will be honored to silence the last of the Vendrien Guard insult. Graven Ashe, we hereby order you to stand down and remain here at camp until we have secured the citadel.This is a very plausible seeming order as we just found out Graven Ashe had a seditious prisoner exchange truce and is potentially sabotaging everything. Of course, this means that Tunon makes Nerat King of the Tiers, which is exactly what Nerat wants.   Thus, Graven Ashe, the "honorable" general who Barik will not stop praising, resorts to treacherously violating a flag of truce to beat the poo poo out of the Voices of Nerat for... lawfully being selected to do the job that prevents Kyros from executing the entire valley. The Other Playthrough where we picked Ashe posted:It's telling that while Nerat starts yelling and screaming and charging up for an anime attack in that timeline, it's Ashe who strikes first and technically violates the blue flag. Hell, he makes it clear a few minutes later, if you forgot. The Dishonorable Graven Ashe posted:The Blue Flag was never taken down! Remember, Ashe is supposed to be the honorable one, not the treacherous asshat who violates a truce and poops on the law because the Fatebinder had to make a snap decision. Ashe has no objections to losing men to an Edict, despite his high-minded claims, he's the idiot who marched an entire army of elite troops in expensive equipment into a lightning storm we and the Scarlet Chorus personally warned everyone to stay away from. Both Nerat and Ashe are treacherous, lying assholes, but Nerat is very open about being a treacherous lying rear end in a top hat. Ashe works hard to seem like a calm, compassionate, and caring leader, and I know a lot of people - myself included - picked the seemingly honorable old general on their first playthrough instead of the gleeful madman impaling people on spikes.  Fifth Eye has our back. : What happened? Here we see that Fifth Eye, weirdly, has more integrity than the Disfavored. If we claim Ashe stepped in front of us and saved our life - when, as we saw, he did no such thing - Ashe smiles and starts spinning a yarn about old soldier's reflexes and really likes that we're feeding his ego. The Fifth Eye immediately gives credit to Barik, even though Barik is allied with the guy who just tried to murder everyone and plans to sabotage our war effort.  : I wasn't trying to save you. I was trying to save her. He points to Verse and sighs, : And what happened, you bleeding heart iron poo poo-tower? Verse crosses her arms and glares. You two have issues. : That was an honorable thing to do, Barik.It's a recurring theme that Barik has a strong sense of loyalty and integrity that, once again, is completely wasted on the Disfavored.  : [Conquest] We both know you turned your weapon against the Chorus in Stalwart. I could tell Tunon you were the first blood of this war... he would not be amused.If Barik is really mad he slaps you and you can sentence him to your service forever as punishment. This also isn't wrong, remember we found the dead Blood Chanters near Lethian's Crossing? There was a whole sidequest about the guy being intimidated by the Disfavored into not telling anyone about it. : So, that's how you want to work this? The Adjudicator certainly taught you everything he knows about being a manipulative pissant.: Very well. I'll remain at your side at least until this Edict is resolved. It beats sitting in a corner and waiting for Kyros' magic to kill us all. : As for you, you old sack of wine. This is war. Try to enjoy yourself. TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
  We pretty much know what's going down, the Disfavored will try to gently caress us over, etc. : I will lead the vanguard of the Scarlet Chorus.I have no idea what the hell Nerat does all day. Even Ashe gave us the orders personally before hiding like a coward.  : As I suspected, the call of glory sings to your heart's tune. The Fifth Eye claps his bloody gloves together. The camp will mobilize soon. We will meet at the staging grounds of the Citadel. This will be a glorious hunt, dear Fatebinder - something to tell the children.Off to the Spire!   Canticle of slaughter sounds like a metal band name.  : What can we expect from the oathbreakers? I'm not gonna sugarcoat things, the Chorus is not exactly competent either. : What of the DIsfavored? : I'm ready, let's do this.: Our Blood Chanters are readying a conflagration that should take that gate off its hinges, but at the same time, the oathbreaker mages are warding that gate with protective magic.: He points to the northwest. I need someone to scale the wall and kill the mages maintaining the ward. If I send these unwashed pukes, their corpses will clog the parapets, this task requires your strength.Are you saying that drafting peasants with no training and sending them with knives against armored heavy infantry doesn't work? No, no, it's the Disfavored who are wrong.  TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
 This is what Fifth Eye says if you go back to him, incidentally. Now, I'm gonna fast forward through the attack on the wall because, well, we've seen it before, and go straight to when we kill the two Sages.  The Blood Chanters blow up the gate.  The Disfavored break in and we get the same exchange where the Scarlet Chorus goes to fight the Disfavored and Fifth Eye tells us to take the tower.  I had to reload this floor three times because I foolishly left Lantry some spots for buffs instead of AoE blasting. Don't play a melee guy in this game kids! Don't do it! It loving SUCKS!  We get the message from Tunon asking why the Archons aren't getting along and if everything is going to poo poo, and tell him we're gonna be glad to be done with all this poo poo.  Yeah, that's great, no one cares and if I'd been nicer to you you'd be begging me to adopt you as Court officials so you could keep your cushy noble positions under Kyros.  And after that entire defiant speech about how mean Kyros is and how they'll never surrender, Arri surrenders after running back into the keep and leaving her men to die outside.  Shut up!  Fifth Eye is having entirely too much fun with his job. : I am honored to have had a hand in the glory.  Tenderizer is a one-handed hammer that deals more damage the more health the user is missing. It's OK, I guess.  You're not fooling anyone, Arri, you led your followers to certain death in the name of a government that had utterly failed its people.  We take the first option and we start floating and whatnot and teleport up to the Spire. We've seen this before.  Only difference is that Fifth Eye is rolling with Spire Gang now.  : I hereby claim this place. This is now an extension of Tunon's Court, and all combatants must leave.: This is no longer strictly a military concern. We need to take a breath and sift through what just happened. Nerat has no reason to deny this to us now, because he has a solid case for being King of the Tiers and we helped him make Graven Ashe look like a dumbass. : Send word to the Voices of Nerat that we are successful. We did the kicking thing last time. : Agreed, anybody witnessing what just happens[sic] knows the Edict is over, but you should report to Nerat, and return with any news he has for me. Head through that portal.  : [Salute the Crimson Spear.] TMI! TMI!!!!  Eb chickens out again.  We, however, desperately need more mages in the party to make this not a soul crushing playthrough, and I want the Tidecaster sigil without dealing with Wagstaff, so... : Why would I possibly trust you? We know that Eb is merciless and deceitful, but honestly, if you have to serve any of the Archons, Tunon is the only one with anything resembling a moral code and he's as good of a boss as you're going to get. : Serve me well and all can be forgiven. This concludes Act 1!         We're gonna have a lot more to do with Tunon...next update!  : I'll join you at Cacophony as soon as I speak with Tunon.  Then the Spire turns off the portal until we do the out of body experience, and I'm cutting it because we've seen all of it. This time things are a lot less subdued - we didn't betray anyone, and Tunon isn't alarmed that we're openly doing things for ourself - we follow the rules, we back the Kyrosian authority, and the civil war just kind of happens while Nerat is happy to support our claim on the Spire because that gets him someone who can tell Tunon the civil war isn't his fault. We are still in Safe Happy Kyros land and after that brief interruption and this soon-to-be ended civil war, I'm sure everything will return to normal, right? Next time: Pissing off Tunon
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: gently caress you, Nerat!
: Well, the Fatebinder did what we asked, but in a way we didn't like!
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Oh, going for max Wrath Tunon? Spicy. I ended up pissing him off a lot, not even on purpose. Melee is unfortunately still weak at this stage, and Act 1 is especially painful due to only having one mage at this point. It does get better at least, but it never does pass Magic. It just becomes the lazy but still sufficient option.
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Apr 29, 2021 08:50
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Nerat is gonna love having an enforcer dumb enough to never figure poo poo out for himself.
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Apr 29, 2021 10:15
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The Chorus is actually very refreshing this playthrough. Like an army of Kefka's. Is Barik always this pissy with you after choosing Chorus or is it a low loyalty thing?
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Donkringel posted:The Chorus is actually very refreshing this playthrough. Like an army of Kefka's. Barik is pissy whenever you aren't licking Ashe's boot. wiegieman fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Apr 29, 2021 |
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Apr 29, 2021 17:47
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Barik gets pissy if you do anything other than side with the Disfavored; if you go Chorus, this scene happens, and if you go Rebels, he stops you while walking away from the camp. If he doesn't have loyalty, he socks you and you can conscript him as TGEK already said, but he can be talked down if you have high loyalty or have dirt on him, but he always yells at you on the Spire after the battle.
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update posted:Governor Boris and the Treachery of the Great General But enough about..... uhh.... 
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Governor Boris and the Wrath of Tunon Last time on Tyranny, we helped Nerat make Ashe look like an idiot and claimed a Spire for ourselves. Today we're going to ask Tunon some questions.  Barik puts in the request for Tunon to let him out of the armor, and we oblige.  Lantry would like to warn us about our wonderful legions. We've seen most of the companion chatter before, Lantry warns us that Tunon wants us to get to the bottom of the dispute but we have an Archon to report to.  Tunon is once again unhappy at the failure of the armies to take the citadel. : [Listen.]  I foolishly forget to check in with the Chorus delegation for the Blood Magic sigil. I'll do it next time I visit Tunon.  : Silence! The contradictions in your statements will be examined, and falsities threshed from truthes. If we find you have perjured yourselves, Bleden Mark will see to your fate. The Archon turns, and you feel his gaze upon you. : The Archons could not agree on who should lead the siege and descended into accusations of treachery - it seemed a mutual spat. Blatant lies.  More lies, considering the offscreen defection rate. : The Fatebinder presents testimony. I warn you both against speaking out of turn.: Something more than a mere disagreement unraveled this campaign, but I will return to that in time. I'm not sure why the bottom option is a lie, because we were the guys who opened the gates and fought the rebel commanders while the Chorus fought...the Disfavored. Oh well! : I joined with the Scarlet Chorus, we took the Citadel with an unstoppable advance. Remember, Tunon is the only guy who takes Kyros' stated goals as good things. When Kyros says she wants the citadel conquered, that's the official goal even though we all know the actual goal was for Ashe and Nerat to gently caress up and get killed. : Petty squabbles clouded Graven Ashe's judgment. He was too mired in assaulting the Voices to conquer the Citadel properly.The second option isn't really true as we all know by now. : For a long while, the Adjudicator hovers in silence, shadows trailing from below his robes. Unfortunately, because I didn't meet the conditions to get Nerat to pounce and force Ashe to confess his treason, we can't give Tunon the lowdown on that. It's ok, we're gonna have plenty of evidence against these guys by the end of the game. : I have told you all that I know.: Your testimony is accepted by the Court. The statements of our guests raise questions in my mind. There is much about this campaign that has caused me to wonder...Keep this line in mind going forward. I said earlier that Tunon was deluded and believed wholeheartedly in Kyros, but somewhere in the back of his mind he realizes that things are going to poo poo. It's part of why we got a trial at all on the Anarchy path, and we're going to see a bit more of that today.    Tunon poofs away.  You want to agree with Tunon or he gets pissy at you for being silent. : I agree, Your Honor.  We sure as hell know they're not innocent. : Could they both be guilty?You can collect enough evidence to convict both Archons, but not on the same playthrough. : It's possible, but the momentum of the conquest up to this point suggests otherwise. The failure at Vendrien's Well implies a coordinated will behind the chaos.And we're back to Blind Tunon. The offensives fell apart in year three and only Kyros' personal intervention with three Edicts to conquer this backwards province prevented the failure of the conquest.  : They say the Voices of Nerat holds you in higher regard than most. Use this alliance to enter his confidence. It seems unlikely the Archon of Secrets is more honest with friends than with rivals - but to his friends, he has been known to divulge much. So, yes, we've been given permission to fight and kill the Disfavored. : I shall speak with the Archon of Secrets.: Your fellow Fatebinders have been busy acting as my eyes and earts. I have a few leads for you to follow. You should of course speak with your brothers and sisters of the Court if you need further counsel.: Though the Disfavored were triumphant in the Blade Grave, I understand that their troubles within the region are unfinished. Talk to the Disfavored commanders serving in the Blade Grave - perhaps they can shine some light on the origins of this feud.  : What concerns the Court, Your Honor?: In spite of the many shortcomings at Vendrien's Well, you managed to make a name for yourself. You proclaimed an Edict of Kyros, resolved its demanding conditions, and ascended the Mountain Spire. : I was only doing my job, Your Honor.: Your sense of obligation to your role is admirable, but modesty will not recommend you to the task ahead.: Whether by design or by accident, you have captured the attention of Kyros' army and the local Tiersmen alike. This is no small opportunity, and the Court charges you with exploiting your new standing to its fullest potential.: You have a title in our hierarchy. However, it's a little known secret that one's standing in the world is determined by their infamy, their deeds, and how they come to be known.: Mind this notion as you bring justice to this lawless frontier. There may come a time when your deeds speak louder for you than any title.He's foreshadowing the trial, I love it.   : Understood. I will be known as a champion of justice.  TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
 The game is going to keep track of all evidence we've found, and this even includes acts during Conquest! Here Nerat gets a point against him because Sirin enthralled a Disfavored.  Anyway, remember last time when I said not to ask Tunon about Kyros or the mask if you wanted to not piss him off forever? : Tell me about Kyros. : How old is Kyros? Oh, personality cult gibberish, cool. Remember when Calio was bitching about the superstitions of the Tiers?  : What is your relationship to Kyros?: She is my master, and I her dutiful pupil. In this respect, you and I are no different.: I have the honor of Kyros' confidence. She trusts me to enact her law upon the boundless territory of her rule. I am only too grateful to serve. : Do you think Kyros' laws are fair?Now, this is obviously a land mine, but I will step in it so you do not have to.  And here we see the cracks in Tunon's belief. The easy answer to the question is "well, obviously, Kyros is perfect and would make perfect laws", but Tunon doesn't bother to engage with the question at all. He's not a stupid man and he's a lawyer, so I can't conceive of him being unable to defend it. Of course, it's also a personal attack as Tunon has poured his heart, soul, and humanity into these laws.  : I couldn't help but notice that you refer to Kyros as a woman. Even the Abrahamic God is gendered, and if you look closely you can see Kyros trying to appropriate these attributes for herself. Of course, Kyros is...just a woman, so it all blows up in her face at the end of the game.  Catechisms of the Catholic Church posted:By calling God "Father", the language of faith indicates two main things: that God is the first origin of everything and transcendent authority; and that he is at the same time goodness and loving care for all his children. God's parental tenderness can also be expressed by the image of motherhood, which emphasizes God's immanence, the intimacy between Creator and creature. The language of faith thus draws on the human experience of parents, who are in a way the first representatives of God for man. But this experience also tells us that human parents are fallible and can disfigure the face of fatherhood and motherhood. We ought therefore to recall that God transcends the human distinction between the sexes. He is neither man nor woman: he is God. He also transcends human fatherhood and motherhood, although he is their origin and standard: no one is father as God is Father. : Let me ask you about something else. : I'm curious about you, Archon.: Curiosity is not a trait I encourage in my servants. Too often have I witnessed such activity leading down a path to lawlessness. : What's the deal with your mask?  Tunon's not much of a poker player, but we'll get to this later. : Go on.: In my early days, before the Northern Empire spread to my lands, I fashioned the Mask of Listening out of stern, uncaring wood. This expression of enduring patience harkens the testimony of my petitioners, taking in all evidence before weighing matters in their due course.: Later in my career, Kyros herself gifted me the Mask of Resolve. You will find it almost identical to the Mask of Listening, save for the brow furrowed in contemplation and weight down by the burden of judgment. This is the face that dispenses law, often the most exacting and unforgiving sort. : [Lore 63]: Does the Mask of Resolve grant you the power of judgment? : But no. The Mask is a symbol. Justice itself grants me power. An objective ruling is its own consent to enact incredible wonders.: Such is my right as the Archon of Law. When I recognize a jurisprudent need, there is nothing I cannot do. : What do you look like underneath the Masks?This is really gonna piss him off.  : Your Honor? : Your Honor? : Yes, but what do you look like? Do you even remember? Idk, I saw that fanart on the Tyranny store page and boy are people thirsty for Big T here. : That doesn't answer my question.  This is the easiest way in the game to piss off Tunon.  He's not happy with us, as you can see when we go back. Cleo, who was good about staying in Tunon's good graces, was treated with respect until the day of the trial. Here we have an extremely angry Archon. : I wish to apologize for my line of questioning earlier, Your Honor.: You surprised me with your impudent presumption. Certainly you challenged the court's opinion of you. And yet I will not hold you in my permanent contempt. It's interesting that Tunon acknowledges that the laws apply to him even when he points out that we have some terrible target choices. Then we go on and ask about Barik only to get shot down again and ask the Forge-Bound to look at him. TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
It's a rather different facet of Tunon's character. He's still a true believer in the Kyrosian project and is dedicated to deluding himself that Kyros is the ultimate righteous authority that cannot be questioned, but when challenged he doesn't really have a good defense other than special pleading that Kyros is perfect and infallible. He can't defend it because it's impossible to defend and some part of him realizes this, and it gets played out later in the trial at the end of the game. Tunon desperately tries to reconcile Kyros with reality posted:It's a common problem to most political ideologies when they come into contact with reality and lose, the true believers will always find some way to rationalize it. A lot of people criticize the ending of Tyranny as a power fantasy where you are the chosen one to defeat Kyros (LordMandalore recently claimed this in one of his videos, as well as the RPG Codex review) and it's just not true. If it wasn't the player character any one of the Fatebinder's in Tunon's court could have found themselves in this situation, and Tunon doesn't make up his mind on the spot at the end of the game after being a content true believer owned by Ben Shapiro, the player just lets Tunon examine his own doubts. Tunon is happy to sentence whichever Archon you convict to death in absentia without giving them an opportunity to defend himself, but you can always get a trial from Tunon. The masks are another issue. You'll note that Tunon said nothing about correcting these biases, just covering them up with a mask. He's not going out and trying to get other perspectives, merely insisting that he is thoroughly objective and that his justice is the true justice beyond reproach, and, as we see later, those are both vectors he concedes he's wrong on. Take a look at some of the stuff he says in the trial. Tunon dies posted:Tunon is bad at hiding his biases posted:It's clear that confronting the player is just bringing these doubts he expresses now to the fore. The Fatebinder does not create these doubts, they only exacerbate them to win the trial, but ultimately Kyros has put Tunon in the position of having to defend these indefensible laws when they conflict with reality. The Fatebinder is not special, they are just in the right place at the right time to exploit all the flaws in Kyros' empire. If Calio had been sent instead of the player I would bet actual money she'd be collecting Spires and planning an escape too. Next time: Chatting with Nerat.
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: We're not fuckups! They hosed up!
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I love the conversation with Tunon about his masks and how he looks. The fact that your options are just repeated a couple of times at first is wonderful, it communicates so much how bad of an idea this is. It's also telling that while he doesn't like it, he does answer the mask question. The fact that he just refuses to even entertain the question about his true appearance hints at some personal agony about how he looks now. That is not the reaction of a man who is happy with his current state. Eb has a different interjection line with Tunon now in this universe since she's no longer technically a Blood Chanter. I thought it was pretty funny, myself. You can actually get Bleden Mark's artifact if you talk to him here. I was totally surprised about that when I played myself, but now that I've seen your ending with Bleden Mark's rebellion, it makes sense now. It's his shackle, he's happy to get rid of it. Keldulas fucked around with this message at 07:48 on May 3, 2021 |
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I appreciate that during both the Conquest and throughout Act 1, the answer to "who's responsible for loving up the invasion" truthfully is "well, it's complicated and there were a lot of factors and to be blunt, everyone sucks but me" but that's not an acceptable answer. The answer has to be "pick someone to take all the blame and be our scapegoat so the other parties can all continue about their business". There has to be someone to blame. Because if it's not their fault... then you're guilty too.
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bewilderment posted:I appreciate that during both the Conquest and throughout Act 1, the answer to "who's responsible for loving up the invasion" truthfully is "well, it's complicated and there were a lot of factors and to be blunt, everyone sucks but me" but that's not an acceptable answer. The answer has to be "pick someone to take all the blame and be our scapegoat so the other parties can all continue about their business". Tunin is dancing around outright saying it, because he is a true believer and on some level can't accept it, but your real task is to act as kingmaker and determine who gets to rule the tiers. The winner will be crowned not for their virtue, the loser will be executed not for their crimes, but for winning or losing the power struggle. Justice and law are only ad hoc rationalizations to make the whole thing less unseemly. It reminds me of how the Ottoman empire actually had it in law that on assent of a new Sultan, any male relatives of the Sultan would be executed, even infants. I think the most revealing line is when Tunin says "It's possible, but the momentum of the conquest up to this point suggests otherwise. The failure at Vendrien's Well implies a coordinated will behind the chaos." Technically it's possible that they both are guilty, but no, one of them need to win so the tiers have a ruler.
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Governor Boris and the Chat with Nerat Last time on Tyranny we pressed Tunon extremely hard and he kindly refrained from opening up a can of whoopass. Today we're gonna go annoy Nerat.  Tunon gives us the Barik sidequest. You know the drill. I'll try to show off the...erm, other, resolution to his quest.  Bleden Mark will never join us on this runthrough but there are a bunch of ways his misadventures can play out depending on whether he likes the player or not. I take the same path as last time.  Granted, he gives us some specific advice. He's not wrong!  Welcome to Cacophony! Unlike last time where we just visited to put Nerat out of our misery, Cacophony is going to be a major quest hub for us. It's the main Scarlet Chorus encampment, and a bunch of people would like us to help them with wacky misadventures involving mutilation.  The Voices is up and about on his throne. I believe that is Matani Sybil impaled on the right there - the more people we send to the Voices, the more people get impaled on spikes.  Nerat is happy to see us because he's on his way to becoming King of the Tiers. : As if proclaiming and resolving the same Edict weren't impressive enough, you found the temerity to reject Graven Ashe and support our right to conquer these lands.: You deserve a just reward when this is over, but it's too early to congratulate ourselves when there's plenty of war still to fight. Nerat, being our friend/patron, is here to answer our questions. Graven Ashe does the same on his route. : I want to ask about your power. You are a remarkable... person.The key to getting Nerat favor is to tell him how great he is, which works on every Archon not named Bleden Mark and to a lesser extent Sirin.   : They say you're an interrogator without equal. What's your secret?: We are full of secrets, and we can't be expected to share them with the adoring masses. We're certain that you have a few of your own - and wouldn't want them brought to light.: His empty, green eye sockets stare with intensity. : I'm ready to learn anything you'll teach me.: Teach you? Impudent, ambitious little morsel! Our lessons come at a steep price.: He chuckles, sending a gust of putrid, green smoke across the gap between you.  : What happens after you interrogate someone?: It's a transcendent experience. The subject and I, we grow to trust, depend upon, and even love each other.: We have long since learned that pain and the intensity of our conversation make strange bedfellows. Applied together, anything can happen.This is of course nonsense, as we saw Nerat lose control and let out Hagrivar and Brennix in Cleopatra's playthrough.  At least he's honest about his inevitable betrayal. : Have you ever tried to... absorb... another Archon? Something to keep in mind during this encounter is that Nerat, by definition as the Archon of Secrets, is a thoroughly unreliable source milking us for flattery.  So far this is believable. The legality stuff is standard boilerplate, sure, but Nerat wanted to show loyalty and win favors for himself.  This part is most likely bullshit. Remember, Nerat gains power from mages like the Wild Wrath and Tidecasters by devouring their minds. If Nerat COULD gain power by devouring other Archons, they'd all turn on him immediately. Archons have a lot of privileges, but they're not supposed to turn on each other without permission from Tunon, and if he could steal the power of the other Archons he'd be a threat without equal. Hell, he could maybe someday eat Kyros - or the endgame Fatebinder - and start dropping Edicts. If Nerat could do this, he has no incentive to give us an honest answer that he can because outing himself like that would make him enemy number one. It's also a potential reason for Kyros to try to get rid of him. bewilderment in the thread had a brilliant explanation of Nerat that's worth keeping in mind. bewilderment posted:Maybe I'm just inventing too much, but to me Nerat (who is far more distinct from his army than Ashe is) represents the opportunists. Nerat is the kind of person who is rich enough to 'always be on the winning side'. Like a political campaign consultant who switches parties because it's all about their career, not their actual beliefs. It doesn't matter who their boss is - either way, they know how to rile up a crowd. Nerat is always capable of providing the right face for the situation. : Is your knowledge limitless?: What a question! We know many things beyond the purview of the disgusting farmers and merchants you'll find outside of our vaunted stronghold. Much more than any of them could learn in a hundred lifetimes.: When you know as much as we do, this much will seem obvious.: He leans uncomfortably closer to whisper. Now, this might seem like obvious wisdom, but remember what we said about Nerat before? Nerat believes in nothing. The official doctrine of the Empire is that Kyros is basically the Catholic God. Tunon flunks theology posted:It's a subtle hint that Nerat doesn't believe in any of this stupid Kyrosian doctrine - but he will prove to be a master at exploiting the legal system, because like Bleden Mark and the endgame Fatebinder, he recognizes the laws for the bullshit they are. The guy also said he was going to eat us to our face, so it's not like he's a complete coward. : Let me ask about something else. : Would you tell me something about yourself?: Why... we're honored that you would ask!: We always thought that knives were the friendliest weapons. So eager to meet new people. You really have to appreciate these things! More power games. : No, it isn't.: We are the Archon of Secrets, but call us whatever you want. Stories are our real trade. Take it from us - everyone has a story, and all are welcome in our hall of wonders.: He taps the side of his head. : I'm actually curious about your history.  : I don't wish to steal your secrets, Archon - only to learn from your brilliance. I liked chatting about the law with Tunon better, personally.  : Why do you speak of yourself in the plural form?: That much should be obvious. We are multitudes - an army unto ourselves, a council of shadows babbling to be heard. : Your body... the green flames... why?: We are greater than your confines. No stable form can house our magnificence.: The flames about his neck flare out to form a regal collar. : You are art. : Tell me of your rise to power.: In our youth, we were the youngest scion of House Nerat. These would be the early years of Kyros' reign, if numbers make any difference to your fragile matter.: The Northern Empire wasn't the bastion of order and peace as we know it today. Our gracious Overlord contended with sedition and lawlessness from his subjects, from his enemies... and even from the noble House of Nerat.Huh, Nerat's calling Kyros male.  : How did you escape the shadow of guilt?  : You tortured your own family?We covered this briefly in the Anarchist runthrough when Bleden Mark brought it up. The information that Nerat was the youngest heir (and thus least likely to inherit anything) probably played a role in this as well.  This is, of course, self serving nonsense, but self serving lip service is what got Nerat to where he is today - an inhuman flaming monster mash leading a brutal army in service to a tyrant.  Ha ha, carve, get it? : What city was this? : Were they guilty? The thing with Nerat here is that he's setting up all the warning signs of his betrayal - but trying to lull the player with his "honestly" that he won't betray you - you're a Fatebinder, you're too useful, yadda yadda yadda.  : House Nerat needed to be cleansed of treachery.It's also a minor test of how far you'll go.  : You said the Archon of Misery offered a better life?: He took it upon himself to be our instructor. He taught us the beauty of agony - how to slide the knife just so, how to divide flesh with no mortal wound, and how to inflict waking nightmares upon our foes. No more of our clumsy, blood-soaked efforts for spectacle. True torture is a sensory performance, staged for an audience of one. He made us an artist.: We were proficient at our work. Our name spread beyond the boundaries of the child Empire as people whispered it in private, or shrieked it in fear. Whole galleries were erected to display our accomplishments, which were studied and interpreted by head-scratching scholars.: Our talent with the blade, rope and saw grew so renowned that Kyros' faithful and unfaithful alike believed we could steal truths from their minds with little more than a stare. : Back to my previous questions. : How do you manage an army as vast as the Scarlet Chorus?: They manage themselves of course! Men and women of grit rise in the ranks to become gang bosses. When they take too many wounds, or their swords grow too heavy, another boss claims their rightful place. : Tell me of the Scarlet Chorus' tenets.: Tenet the first! Whatever you can claim through sheer force of will is yours for the taking. Those who think us 'chaotic' should spend some time away from the farm, and learn what it means to survive.: That also means you can kill who you want. Kyros' Peace extends to servants of the Empire, but these Tiersmen haven't enjoyed the pleasure of our laws yet. Until they do, you can treat them like sport, and not even starchy old Tunon will get offended. This is of course, as presented, a horrific waste of resources where if a Blood Chanter has one bad day they get murdered and the army loses a valuable professional soldier, but tyranny is often inefficient and wasteful. : I'm curious about the Scarlet Chorus' history.: And why wouldn't you be? Rest a spell and let our words wriggle among the chaos of your imagination.: The great uninformed think of the Scarlet Chorus as one of Kyros' many armies. In fact, they are our personal force. Beginning in the earliest days of our power, we cobbled together a rabble of miscreants from freshly-conquered territories. The Scarlet Chorus has always been dredged from the bottom-feeders. Then there are the camp followers who skulk in our long shadow.We'll come back to this. : As Kyros forged the rest of the great Empire, we were used to subdue any lingering resistance. Those who opposed Kyros' Peace joined our howling disharmony and lived, or died, in Kyros' war. A fitting fate, is it not?: By the time Kyros set a magnanimous eye on the Tiers, it was all but assumed that the Scarlet Chorus would lead the vanguard. Though they answer to us, we are happy to loan their services for the Overlord's pleasure. : So what's your plan? I'm ready to talk strategy.: Of course you have questions. We'd be disappointed if you didn't have any. Our first priority is to humiliate that pissbucket Graven Ashe, but we'll have a better chance of it once every corner of the Tiers is wearing red.: Do you see our design, Fatebinder? Does our madness complement our method? : How do you expect to do that? : Conquest is a delicate matter. It needs feeding, watering, soft caresses, a lullaby before bed.: We will... invite the leaders of the resistance to join us. If we have their leaders, the people will follow. You will bring them to us, yes? Chiefs, and the assets of chiefdom.: As for how you factor into these plans, that is in part up to you. We have many ingots in the fire - it's more of a question of what piques your interests.: The Blade Grave is a beautiful pocket of disorder. An Edict shreds the land to ribbons, and soldiers by the hundreds are fed into the furnace of war. Angry sons of old Stalwart, dubbing themselves 'Unbroken', clash spears with the Disfavored.: We can use the Edict and the conflict to our benefit. They keep the Disfavored occupied, and the Tiers within our grasp. While these idiot juggernauts bash each other into ruin, we can extract what we need.: The daughter of Graven Ashe has been a prisoner to these Stalwart wretches. Secure her for us, and fetch her to Cacophony straight away! Inviting Ashe's progeny into the fold is an advantage we cannot ignore.: Seek out also Jagged Remedy in Trapper's Junction. He has cornered a beleaguered unit of Unbroken. Help him recruit their leader - Mattias - into the fold, that he might help us reach the jewel of the realm - the great keep of Sentinel Stand. Now THIS is illegal! It's also a test for the Fatebinder - if they do this, it's a break from Tunon and gives Nerat leverage to report us to Tunon should we displease him somehow. Remember, Archons' Privilege works against us hard here.  I could have sworn you started at the Vellum Citadel, but it's been a while since I last betrayed Nerat. : [Leave.] Let me think about this. TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
 In a nice touch the game even lists Nerat's request as evidence we can present to Tunon of Nerat's evil crimes. So, what to make of Nerat? Nerat is using the classic manipulative technique of trying to get the Fatebinder to agree that Nerat's crimes against other people were totally justified and necessary, using false openness to convince the Fatebinder that they're special, and that while Nerat might have done those terrible things to those OTHER people they'll never turn on the Fatebinder. I can attest to this from seeing this technique used on me (and I will not elaborate as it's rather personal) but it's something manipulative people do. It's clear that Nerat has no remorse about betraying and using people to get ahead, and would have no compunction about torturing and killing the Fatebinder if he can get away with it - he says as much - but is supremely confident in his ability to manipulate anyone via this method. We even see this from Verse. Last playthrough posted:
Verse is not surprised when the Voices displays extreme cruelty toward their enemies or when it would be advantageous to the Chorus, but heaven forfend he betray her! She's an elite Scarlet Fury, worth two dozen conscripts! Sadly for Verse, twenty four times zero is still zero. Thus, much like how Ashe and Barik's abusive relationship was echoed by the relationship between Kyros and Ashe, Nerat's relationship to the Scarlet Chorus is echoed by Kyros' relationship to Nerat. Kyros would never turn on Nerat, he's too useful as a torturer, army "commander," disposal unit for dissidents, and spymaster! Nerat's done everything Kyros and even sacrificed his own family to the cause, that must count for something right? Nerat fails to realize that he's perfect for the Machiavellian role of the disposable tyrant Kyros rids herself of to come in and proclaim a new rule of justice. I've quoted that Machiavelli section twice in this LP, so have a Dune quote. Dune, Frank Herbert posted:A tank-brain, the Baron thought. Muscle-minded tank-brain. They will be bloody pulp here when he's through with them. Then, when I send Feyd-Rautha in to take the load off them, they'll cheer their rescuer. Beloved Feyd-Rautha. Benign Feyd-Rautha, the man who saved them from the beast. Feyd-Rautha, a man to follow and die for. The boy will know by that time how to oppress with impunity. I'm sure he's the one we'll need. This leads us to the Scarlet Chorus, which Nerat describes as an "army" but in the same breath reveals himself an incompetent commander. It's not clear whether we're supposed to see the camp followers as useful logistical foragers and tradesmen who do things like repair weapons and procure food, or as useless mouths to feed who accompany the Chorus. Nonetheless, the point of the Chorus isn't to win battles, it's to be a dumping ground for the discontent and the uncontrollable and send them off to either die or commit crimes elsewhere. Nerat doesn't describe great victories of the Scarlet Chorus because there are none. They lost to Graven Ashe, a man who believes the height of strategy is to charge headlong into a feigned retreat and drown in a river. Nerat's good at manipulating people and encouraging treachery, but no step of his evil plan involves having the Chorus fighting Ashe and winning. It's a penal battalion led by a creature who can conceive of no other way of controlling his troops then by pitting the whole army against itself in a parody of the trauma that led to his own rise up the ranks. On some level, we can see Nerat trying to upgrade the quality of his troops by stealing iron, but he never seems to put together that a unified cohesive force would be able to take on Graven Ashe and win. There was discussion in the thread about who was responsible for halting the Conquest, and the honest answer is that Kyros set up the whole thing to fail in the first place! Presumably if Kyros had wanted the Tiers conquered swiftly and efficiently she would have mustered the army from Act III that even Tunon believes is unbeatable and ordered them into combat. Instead, she picks two incompetent commanders who hate each other and cannot adapt to changing circumstances. The armies are terrible at actual occupation and keeping the peace, as they're both taking out the abuse of their leaders on the civilian population, and the conquest only succeeds because the people of the Tiers have similarly bad leadership and cannot unite against a greater threat. The Scarlet Chorus is not an effective fighting force because the horrific losses are the point. The Disfavored are not an effective fighting force because they're dumb fascists who continually underestimate their enemies, cannot get reinforcements, and get ordered to do dumb poo poo like march into an Edict or a river. Neither of these forces can be used to keep the peace after the war, because the Chorus literally murder everyone when they conscript and hate farmers, and the Disfavored are brutal fascist assholes locked into a cult of struggle who have no use in peacetime. Thus, the Edict of Execution is the point - the Fatebinder is not supposed to succeed, and Kyros rids herself of two useless Archons and their equally useless armies and hands the province over to Tunon or somebody. The last question Nerat's conversation raises is why he calls himself the Voices of Nerat if his entire family were traitors that had to be put to death, and that is wide open to interpretation. Kyros could have named him as a reminder, much like how Graven Ashe got his new name upon surrendering, it might have been a taunt to his family that he despised, or indicative of a secret guilt he has about murdering his family. The last seems unlikely to me, as the sequence with the Archon of Misery indicates that that transgressive act desensitized young Nerat to doing whatever acts of violence he wanted - once you've flayed your own family in front of everyone and exacted confessions, what else is left? It's also not clear that Nerat actually stood to gain his family's wealth from this - he murders "Father. Mother. Sisters. Aunts." but no older brothers who might take his inheritance. He whiffles between declaring his family enemies of Kyros and describing the noble house of Nerat, and honestly it really doesn't matter! Nerat is adept at shifting his face and emotion to whatever his current victim wants to see, so if he feels any guilt he's far too composed to act on it unless it would either advance his position or let him validate his ego as when he torments Graven Ashe with his dead son. Decisions Lie Before Us! Are we going to the Blade Grave to "rescue" Amelia, or to Lethian's Crossing to maybe do some treason?
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This might have come up a while ago, but seeing as faction favour is separate from leader favour (like the Scarlet Chorus and Nerat) is possible to piss off a faction's leader but be in with the faction? Or vice versa? And does the game acknowledge this meaningfully?
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LJN92 posted:This might have come up a while ago, but seeing as faction favour is separate from leader favour (like the Scarlet Chorus and Nerat) is possible to piss off a faction's leader but be in with the faction? Or vice versa? And does the game acknowledge this meaningfully? No, the two meters are linked. The game explicitly says that faction opinion will change based on leader opinion or vice versa - I forget which, but it comes up in the reputation tab. That said, you can use the faction reputation to make the leaders do things they don't want to do - notably, you can have Graven Ashe swear allegiance to you on the Disfavored route if your Disfavored favor is high enough.
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May 6, 2021 06:58
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Let's go murder a baby. I'm sure Nerat will be delighted.
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I'm a bit torn here. On the one hand I haven't actually seen the Crossing questline (and I assume it is the least seen, because you don't need the quest to visit the town and claim the spire there), but on the other, the Blade Grave Chorus story is a very Chorus story. Let's go with Blade Grave. We only have dirt on Nerat right now and we should keep our options open in regards to whom we throw under the Tunon/Mark bus. That's probably the best place to implicate Ashe.
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May 6, 2021 09:40
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Let the *Baby Murder* commence.
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I somehow never put together the fact that Nerat changes his "face" to whatever he needs at the time, and that he has a floating stone mask with multiple faces on it. Also once again we see the power of belief on Terratus. Everyone believed Nerat could steal minds until one day he could.
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Can we go to Lethian's Crossing and *not* do the treason? Just gently caress around and come back empty-handed? Edit: Or this like if we agree to a quest and don't do it we get punted to the anarchy route? Rawkking fucked around with this message at 20:52 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 20:48
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I think that would only be possible by picking an option with a [Betray Alliance] tag.
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Rawkking posted:Can we go to Lethian's Crossing and *not* do the treason? Just gently caress around and come back empty-handed? You always have the choice to bail to the anarchy route, but otherwise you are a glorified coffee boy for whichever side you align yourself with. This is where the frequent complaint that the game railroads you comes from. The game was marketed as a power fantasy, rather than a critique of totalitarianism. I dont know fucked around with this message at 22:55 on May 6, 2021 |
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May 6, 2021 21:09
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Let's go murder a baby for justice
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This is not a vote. People suggesting that seeing Amelia means babymurder seem to be forgetting that "don't harm children" is one of the few rules we've seen Nerat and the Chorus ruthlessly stick to. As in, the Chorus will happily try to murder the Fatebinder who should be untouchable, but when you point out "hey that's a child" they stop. Presumably Sirin is exempt; perhaps because the actual age of adulthood is only 15 or perhaps because of Archon-hood.
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Yeah, but it's not the chorus making that call unless this changes a ton. It's Boris, who uh, would probably just murder that baby for fun from what I've seen.
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May 7, 2021 00:59
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Thing is that Nerat wants Amelia sent to him. I kind of doubt she'd go anywhere with you if you do that....
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May 7, 2021 04:24
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Let's go with the implied Familicide options.
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Lets go operation Babymurder(potential)
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Governor Boris and the Camp at Cacophony. Last time, Nerat asked us to go to one of the Act 2 locations but we deferred the decision to the internet. The vote is still open, by the way - I just had some more footage of misadventures at the Scarlet Chorus camp.  Specifically, a bunch of opportunities to adjudicate disputes! Because this entire camp is all about vaguely Darwinian principles exaggerated to a comedic extreme, they are fully willing to use the law to get one over on their ruthless rivals who will happily screw over the army in the long term to rule in the short term. In this case, it's a conscription dispute.   : What's going on here? : Fatebinder, yes. Fatebinder, good of you to come along. The horde representative sneers and straightens himself taller, feeling self-important in the moment. You just saved this Fury's neck. : Hardly. She licks the edge of one blade and then uses it to smooth her newly mussed hair back. Though the Fatebinder may yet stay me from smearing the ground with your blood. Well, I don't know...we are in a civil war with the Disfavored, and we presumably need to fight them at some point.  : You sure you want me to weigh in? If I do, it'll be as an official envoy of the Courts and irrevocable for all parties involved.: The Scarlet Fury cocks a nod of agreement. I'll be sated just to have the squabbling done with. But we can't win a war with only fish-necked slatterns and a sea of blood. We need skilled fighters to wield our blades. It occurs to me there's no actual law about bribing a Fatebinder. It's something most players will assume is obviously corrupt, but to my knowledge Tunon says nothing about it, and there is a plausible argument to be made that it fits right in with Tunon's obsession with acting your station. The law explicitly has provisions for Archons to steal your wealth and labor, why not the Fatebinder? It fits right in with the themes of privilege as a license for corruption this game is never hesitant to espouse. Looking at the wiki it does piss off Tunon though. : The captives will go to the Scarlet Furies to aid with strategic military operations within the Chorus.  Eb continues to be full of poo poo, as she quite happily bowed before Kyros as long as she got a relatively cushy assignment in Tunon's court. TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
 This gentleman has a sidequest for us, which I am going to abridge the conversation to get right to.  Weirdly, we can legally do this per Tunon's instructions, because this entire system is one dysfunctional shitshow. I will probably show off this quest. Moving on!   The phrase "rent-rump", presumably referring to a prostitute, is jarring to me. : What crime is being charged? : A capital one, Fatebinder. And I saw it with my own eyes. Three nights back, boss-man snuck into and out've the Oldwalls running Wisdom Rise.So, if you do this adjudication, don't make the mistake I did and be sure to confiscate anything from the Oldwalls. That gets you a Sigil.  : You poo poo-face, Dirge barks at his subordinate. Think you can steal the throne when you're breathing around my blade in your chest? Or maybe its your crafty, forked tongue I should carve out first. : [Say nothing, wait for them to continue.]: Dirge shifts his weight, waiting for you to speak for an uncomfortable stretch of silence until he self-consciously scratches a patch of dry skin from his scalp.: He thinks you did it. Wrathrot taunts in a mock-whisper, causing his gang-boss to snap rigid with anger.: Yeah? It's true I've got no proof to say I've done anything wrong, but you've also got no proof to say I have. Cause nothing's happened aside from your ill-thought lies! He shouts back at the horde member.Ugh, dialog is fine, you don't need the last sentence. It interrupts the tension with a dull description. : So you're saying you didn't chase that Sage right into the Oldwalls? That's what you're saying, boss? That you followed her but didn't go in? Wrathrot splits a vile grin, lips oozing wider with each accusation. He runs a tongue over his teeth, barely containing his violence and resentment.: For a moment, you can see the whites of his eyes as he blinks away the shock, but it's quickly replaced with fury.  : Did you take anything from the Oldwalls? Or touch anything?: Well, I fell against the exterior, struggling with the Sage. The stones were cold and slick - pretty nasty feeling against my backside as I held her still, but I never went inside. I didn't filch nothing. Aside from what was on her corpse. : Why are you so eager for me to sentence Dirge, Wrathrot?: Eager? The horde member rubs at the back of his neck. I mean, I'm just thinking - on account of Dirge being a true criminal under Kyros' laws - he really isn't fit to lead this gang no more. So somebody like me ought to be running things.Of course, this entire thing is just a ploy to get more power by exploiting Kyros' laws. Wrathrot gets it.  I flub the screenshot, but I believe it's just Dirge calling Wrathrot on his bullshit. : [Subterfuge 39] [Lie] The penalty for false accusation is death by impalement.I'm not sure why this is a lie - if Fatebinders can have people executed for wasting their time, wouldn't a false accusation be a perfect example?  : No! Wait, you can't! This hasn't turned out right at all, Fatebinder, please, have mercy! It was all a misunderstanding, you see? Wait, are we going through with it? I'll be honest, I picked the dialog option as a bluff hoping to get Wrathrot to recant - that's what I thought [Lie] meant. Lantry hates our cruelty, but also worked for Nerat on the down low preparing for the land to be conquered by... Nerat, a man who likes impaling people. No high ground here, buddy! TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
 This better not be a new scheme to become the cool new gang leader.  Barik is still pissy because we didn't side with Graven Ashe.  This is the last adjudication of the update, I swear.  : Who's Vile Arsen? : Only those two? He didn't beat the rest of you?  : You want me to adjudicate a settlement between thieves? : Thieves? We didn't filch nothing. We killed Vile Arsen and took his property by right of the Circle of Fifths. : Why is that? : I'll hear your plea if everyone is in agreement of my involvement. : The Choir woman nods. I certainly am. I'd like to settle this and put it behind us. What of the rest of you? : I also am interested in this Fatebinder's ruling. Let an outsider weigh in. Surely, then you'd see the greater weight of my contributions.  : Then let us proceed. Tell me what happened, and I'll determine how the goods should be dispersed.    : You each seem equally satisfied with the outcome of events. Why are you fighting over the goods, then? : Who will lead you in Vile Arsen's absence?: Without a moment's hesitation, the quiet girl speaks up, sounding more sure than she has the entire exchange.: Requiem. She saved us. : Requiem. : I've made my decision. : The goods are to be split evenly, four ways, as this is the most fair and expedient resolution to your dispute. : Aight. I suppose I've got no complaint. He shrugs, but when he sighs it sounds filled with longing for the fortune lost.: The weak can only ascend in strength as they reap the rewards of their labors.TheGreatEvilKing summary posted:
There you have it, a short smattering of life in the Chorus. It's a land of contrasts - our first case is about precisely how vicious to be, our second is a clear power play "abusing" the law, and the last shows that even in this horrorshow you can find trust and friendship. Not too much to say today, so anyone who hasn't voted on the next area go ahead and vote, and we'll get into Act II proper next update!
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: It was very wrong to put those men in the service of a cruel monster like Nerat when they sought death, and I am qualified to judge as someone who is NOT selling out her homeland for a cushy position with Tunon.
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I'm fine with showing off the adjudications. It's honestly one of the more interesting parts of the game. The adjudications are both a reflection of the lives of the people and also a view of how people can absolutely screw themselves with their petty arguments. The last one gets me thinking about the fact that if the Fatebinder is a petty rear end in a top hat, he could've absolutely screwed over that group of friends and increased friction between all of them. The fact that you basically remove yourself from the legal system entirely in the Rebel/Anarchy paths just makes me dislike them more, honestly. It feels like they didn't receive as much attention as they should've because of the quad path system.
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The Scarlet Chorus - if you can't beat em (and prevent them massacring your village and taking all your belongings), join em!
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Any chance we can get this to a new page before the update?
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Any chance we can get this to a new page before the update? Graven Ashe? More like Craven Fash. Also, enjoying the actual adjudicating going on in this run.
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TheGreatEvilKing posted:Any chance we can get this to a new page before the update? No. .... Wait. poo poo.
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Might as well stop lurking and say this LP's been really good all the way through, thanks for playing through this again and subjecting yourself to more Tyranny combat.
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