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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Wow, if the rebate could push this to be way less than the ICE powered version, that would be huge! EV RV!
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VideoGameVet posted:EV RV! I really want one, haha.
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BIG DRYWALL MAN posted:Teslas read the road signs now and adjust accordingly to your presets. This is one of those things where the statement isn't necessarily false, yet not at all reflecting actual reality. Tesla also reads the road signs wrong, reads signs where there are none and takes speed limit data from the map which in many cases is inaccurate. This is easy to observe in repeatable cases where a car driving on the highway under a bridge at 110 kph suddenly wants to brake to 50 kph, which happens to be the speed limit of the road on the crossing bridge and which is drawn above the highway on the map. In most cases it works well, but if you live in a buggy map area you experience wrong speed changes on every drive. I get this on the Leaf as well btw. There's a tunnel in Hardanger, Norway where the speed limit on the dash consistently reads 5 kph, even though it's 80 kph all the way. It doesn't change the set speed though. Ola fucked around with this message at 20:27 on May 7, 2021 |
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Ola posted:This is one of those things where the statement isn't necessarily false, yet not at all reflecting actual reality. Tesla also reads the road signs wrong, reads signs where there are none and takes speed limit data from the map which in many cases is inaccurate. This is easy to observe in repeatable cases where a car driving on the highway under a bridge at 110 kph suddenly wants to brake to 50 kph, which happens to be the speed limit of the road on the crossing bridge and which is drawn above the highway on the map. All true, but with the caveat that it is a continuously improved system, unlike most of the legacy OEs where they ship it and then never touch the software again unless there’s a recall. When sign recognition came out (last year? 2019 maybe?) I had issues with the 70mph speed limit becoming 25 when passing under a few overpasses on my commute, and they went away a few months later with updates and haven’t been back. I do live in a major metro though, and not in the sticks.
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Humerus posted:The EV6 has a dark green color, which is objectively the best car color. This is unrelated to my first car having been dark green. Sometimes I miss my green grand prix. Looked just like this one. bird with big dick posted:Looks like the green isn’t going to be available with the GT though. I'd rather have a green car than a faster, non-green car. Wayne Knight fucked around with this message at 21:09 on May 7, 2021 |
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May 7, 2021 21:07
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Ola posted:This is one of those things where the statement isn't necessarily false, yet not at all reflecting actual reality. Tesla also reads the road signs wrong, reads signs where there are none and takes speed limit data from the map which in many cases is inaccurate. This is easy to observe in repeatable cases where a car driving on the highway under a bridge at 110 kph suddenly wants to brake to 50 kph, which happens to be the speed limit of the road on the crossing bridge and which is drawn above the highway on the map. This is absolutely true in my experience owning a Model 3 with HW V3. There's a few stretches of I-75 where It's a 70 MPH limit, and my car will decelerate down suddenly due to a 45 mph road being parallel to me. It's awful. This isn't a sign issue, it's the car temporarily believing I teleported to a road parallel to me. Should be a simple fix.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:This is absolutely true in my experience owning a Model 3 with HW V3. There's a few stretches of I-75 where It's a 70 MPH limit, and my car will decelerate down suddenly due to a 45 mph road being parallel to me. It's awful. Yeah it’s bad and means I rarely use autopilot. It’s honestly more stressful than just doing things the old fashioned way bc I never know when the car is gonna freak out and slam on the brakes, which has happened a few times
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May 8, 2021 00:24
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Nfcknblvbl posted:This is absolutely true in my experience owning a Model 3 with HW V3. There's a few stretches of I-75 where It's a 70 MPH limit, and my car will decelerate down suddenly due to a 45 mph road being parallel to me. It's awful. I agreed with this right up until the last sentence. Clearly you have never spent DAYS chasing down a bug that seems blinding obvious but is a complete nightmare to isolate. IN MY OWN drat CODE. I mean in your code. I was talking about you, not me. I've never done this.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:This is absolutely true in my experience owning a Model 3 with HW V3. There's a few stretches of I-75 where It's a 70 MPH limit, and my car will decelerate down suddenly due to a 45 mph road being parallel to me. It's awful. Narrator: it was not a simple fix
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Of course it's a simple fix, that's why the newest FSD is a complete rewrite. That's what you do when your still yet to work software is progressing as expected.
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heated game moment posted:Yeah it’s bad and means I rarely use autopilot. It’s honestly more stressful than just doing things the old fashioned way bc I never know when the car is gonna freak out and slam on the brakes, which has happened a few times At least it's repeatable so I just turn autopilot off when I get to those spots buy yeah, pretty irritating for it do drop by 25 mph instantly.
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Charles posted:I really want one, haha. Commercial customers only  How many kWh/day can a vantop solar array do? It'd be super sweet to drive out in middle of nowhere and leave with a full battery a week later, though I imagine the onboard charger would hate that.
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cruft posted:I agreed with this right up until the last sentence. Surely the machine learning supercomputer can solve this.
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Ola posted:
Are you using the Nissan navigation?
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Elviscat posted:Commercial customers only I think this would be entirely doable depending on how much energy you consume while camping, even 1kw added to the battery for 8 hours a day would add up over a week.
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May 8, 2021 02:45
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Elviscat posted:Commercial customers only I am an important #vanlife influencer and I need one for my business! If you provide one free of charge, I will give a shoutout to my 47 followers!
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May 8, 2021 04:20
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MomJeans420 posted:Of course it's a simple fix, that's why the newest FSD is a complete rewrite. That's what you do when your still yet to work software is progressing as expected. I heard the rewrite will even integrate data over time, though I doubt it has figured out object permanence 
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LRADIKAL posted:Are you using the Nissan navigation? Sometimes, I don't think that matters as you do get speed limit info without having an active route.
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May 8, 2021 06:01
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Elviscat posted:Commercial customers only I guess a panel like that would be 250W. So if you get enough sun to equal 8 hours of max power, you'd get 2 kWh. More likely it would offset the inside LED lights and the 5G router so you don't lose too much while parked. Why would the charger hate it?
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Because solar panels have a highly variable output I'd just guess that the charger would get annoyed with doing a "I can provide this much power" handshake with the PV controller constantly and fault out. That's not based on anything but a gut feeling tho.
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May 8, 2021 07:44
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N-thing the bugs with Tesla autopilot. I have phantom braking issues that are outright dangerous if someone is tailgating me which forces me to turn AP off when someone is tailgating me. Is there a button on Tesla to tell the company that the AP just did something stupid and dangerous so their software can actually improve? If not, there really should be. As an aside, I can't wait for EV6 to come out to replace my model 3.
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It isn't just a Telsa problem, the Kia system can activate unexpectedly too (at least it does in their current ICE models)
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May 8, 2021 07:53
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Elviscat posted:Because solar panels have a highly variable output I'd just guess that the charger would get annoyed with doing a "I can provide this much power" handshake with the PV controller constantly and fault out. Hyundai says the solar roof on the Ioniq 5 adds about 5-6km / day.
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lostleaf posted:N-thing the bugs with Tesla autopilot. I have phantom braking issues that are outright dangerous if someone is tailgating me which forces me to turn AP off when someone is tailgating me. Is there a button on Tesla to tell the company that the AP just did something stupid and dangerous so their software can actually improve? If not, there really should be. You can file a bug report with voice command "bug report blabla". But I doubt it triggers a notification on Elon's phone.
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May 8, 2021 07:56
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MrYenko posted:All true, but with the caveat that it is a continuously improved system, unlike most of the legacy OEs where they ship it and then never touch the software again unless there’s a recall. Yes you see, the system sucks and is broken but at least I have OTA updates. You do realize that lots of cars do OTA updates now right? Also, the term “legacy” applied to any automaker other than Tesla is so grating. It reeks of Tesla stan-ing.
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lostleaf posted:Is there a button on Tesla to tell the company that the AP just did something stupid and dangerous so their software can actually improve? If not, there really should be. Presumably they're collecting data around the time people turn off autopilot if they're collecting data from customer cars at all which I assume they are
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kronix posted:Yes you see, the system sucks and is broken but at least I have OTA updates. You do realize that lots of cars do OTA updates now right? Please name said vehicles because I'm not really aware any OEM doing OTA in the way Tesla are?
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Please name said vehicles because I'm not really aware any OEM doing OTA in the way Tesla are? The ID#, Mach E, F150, and XC40 do now, so basically models released this year. There are probably more that do in theory. Not sure about in practice.
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kronix posted:Also, the term “legacy” applied to any automaker other than Tesla is so grating. It reeks of Tesla stan-ing. That and insisting on using the term "fossil cars" is super grating.
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Charles posted:The ID#, Mach E, F150, and XC40 do now, so basically models released this year. There are probably more that do in theory. Not sure about in practice. So basically its not "a lot of cars" and even then not in the manner Tesla have been doing esp with handing out upgrades as their software tuning gets better, that wold be a more accurate statement?
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Elviscat posted:Because solar panels have a highly variable output I'd just guess that the charger would get annoyed with doing a "I can provide this much power" handshake with the PV controller constantly and fault out. Use a proper MPPT charge controller and this won't be an issue at all. I'll be happy to help further when I'm not phone posting.
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May 8, 2021 13:41
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:So basically its not "a lot of cars" and even then not in the manner Tesla have been doing esp with handing out upgrades as their software tuning gets better, that wold be a more accurate statement? I wouldn’t call the fast and loose manner Tesla handles software updates and beta systems a good thing, tbh.
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I keep the car in Chill mode because I just never need that much torque. I'll turn it off when the passengers want a tiny roller coaster experience, but it's normally on. Cruft Jr keeps her leaf in Eco mode, which is similar. Yesterday I learned that two of my friends also keep their cars in Chill mode. Makes me wonder if this is a lot more common than I'd realized within the parents crowd.
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I think the cruise control speed has actually gotten worse on their own Autopilot. It started out simple and worked fine, but after they added speed limit following I think something got lost. There's also the California syndrome of it being more and more accurate the closer you get to Palo Alto, so their engineers obviously think complaints from Europe are just user errors. A phenomenon applicable to all software development I guess. I can't remember if the MobilEye AP1 had speed limit following or if it just displayed it. But I think the e-gimps do it correctly, if I have indeed understood it correctly. Realize the underlying data is imperfect so make the user have to confirm the change.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Please name said vehicles because I'm not really aware any OEM doing OTA in the way Tesla are? My Volt gets occasional OTA updates. They're not common, but there have been a handful in the past couple of years.
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Interesting, Enyaq noticeably more efficient than ID.4 at 120 kph, even if it has 21" vs 20" and slightly cooler temps. Much closer at 90 kph, so that indicates better aero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHP1RNcXG50
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:So basically its not "a lot of cars" and even then not in the manner Tesla have been doing esp with handing out upgrades as their software tuning gets better, that wold be a more accurate statement? That was my point, it's mostly 2021 models that I can think of and I guess the Volt.
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Correct, most companies don't force everyone on the road to be unwilling beta testers of buggy software
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MomJeans420 posted:Correct, most companies don't force everyone on the road to be unwilling beta testers of buggy software Eh, in the EV world, yeah they kinda do.
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cruft posted:I keep the car in Chill mode because I just never need that much torque. I'll turn it off when the passengers want a tiny roller coaster experience, but it's normally on. P100D X and Model 3 Perf both driven in Chill mode all the time in my household. Shredding tires off every light gets old after a while.
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