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I'm a big fan of the Byzantine Empire, they are my main income source via blackmail
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Chatrapati posted:I didn't know that actually. In my mind the Byzantine Empire was just a collection of bickering strongmen, which is why they fell. I should probably read up some simple history. I've never played in that particular region in either game. I still don't like the way they eat their way through the world though. It was that for a short time following the defeat at Manzikert. Once Alexis restored control they were pretty stable. They had civil wars but so did everyone
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May 8, 2021 14:23
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Chatrapati posted:I didn't know that actually. In my mind the Byzantine Empire was just a collection of bickering strongmen, which is why they fell. I should probably read up some simple history. I've never played in that particular region in either game. I still don't like the way they eat their way through the world though. My strong period on them is the run up to the first Crusade, so it's possible this really doesn't apply to the post-Manzikert period (certainly not the civil war immediately following), but that's not an accurate picture at all. If you want a book recommendation, I highly endorse Streams of Gold, Rivers of Blood. The key thing for the Roman Empire is that it was not a series of bickering strongmen at all, at least until 1204, it's very different from the feudal aristocracies of Western Europe. What you do see are rebellions by army officers and the armies they lead. Every Emperor usually had to face down at least one. The mood of the city was also fantastically important, Emperors could lose their legitimacy completely if the population really turned on them. E: oh and yea them consuming the map is a huge problem. As a stop gap I made Holy War require a land connection, and oh man does it ever help. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 16:23 on May 8, 2021 |
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May 8, 2021 16:18
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PittTheElder posted:My strong period on them is the run up to the first Crusade, so it's possible this really doesn't apply to the post-Manzikert period (certainly not the civil war immediately following), but that's not an accurate picture at all. If you want a book recommendation, I highly endorse Streams of Gold, Rivers of Blood. Ok, so the Roman Empire wasn't a series of bickering strongmen, but we were talking about the Byzantine Empire. What were they like? 
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May 8, 2021 17:45
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More than a century after going clan I'm just starting to make enough money to afford to raise my entire army without going broke. Spent decades raising just enough not to start losing money and then stopping them from gathering. Spent the first decade or so just going horribly broke anytime I had to fight a war.
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May 8, 2021 18:33
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Baller Time posted:I'm a big fan of the Byzantine Empire, they are my main income source via blackmail Seriously. Golden Obligations + Fabricate Hook and a good Spymaster hanging out in their court and it's basically an infinite money cheat code.
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May 8, 2021 18:46
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How do u go from tribal to other governments
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May 9, 2021 04:14
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verbal enema posted:How do u go from tribal to other governments get 5 or 10 development in your capital, have your culture unlock 8 or 9 tribal techs and be part of an reformed religion (specifically Islamic if you want clan)
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May 9, 2021 04:17
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verbal enema posted:How do u go from tribal to other governments From easiest to hardest 1) have at least 5 development in your capital 2) have absolute tribal authority 3) have a reform faith (either convert to one or reform your faith, generally speaking all Christian and Muslim faiths start reformed and the rest aren’t) 4) get the majority of tribal innovations. I think the latest patch made it 80%? Muslim faith cultures go from Tribal -> Clan, the rest go Tribal -> Feudal.
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May 9, 2021 04:18
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I swear when i reformed the religion Kru starts with in 867 and dont remember it changing
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May 9, 2021 04:22
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ok how do you get development as a tribe i got most everything else figured out
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May 9, 2021 04:23
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verbal enema posted:ok how do you get development as a tribe raid feudals and when the raid event pops up you can steal development from them. It has a higher chance of firing if you pick up the Viking trait it’s also a task your steward can do but that’s the slow way
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May 9, 2021 04:25
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Raskolnikov38 posted:raid feudals and when the raid event pops up you can steal development from them ah well being in Africa i didn't have that option so that makes sense! Well i did but i wanted to not expand too fast ah well time to do that run again!! gently caress yes!!!
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May 9, 2021 04:26
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it also fires if the raided province has 15 or more development regardless if its feudal or not. but most 15 development provinces are in areas that start feudal
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May 9, 2021 04:28
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verbal enema posted:ok how do you get development as a tribe The easiest way is to move to somewhere better, most tribal starting locations are poor garbage areas.
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May 9, 2021 04:32
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binge crotching posted:The easiest way is to move to somewhere better, most tribal starting locations are poor garbage areas. but then i would have left our ancestral home :c
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May 9, 2021 04:34
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I finally installed this game last night, started up the tutorial and figured I'd play a couple hours before going to sleep. When I looked up, six hours had passed and it was almost dawn. I put a thousand hours into CK2, I really should have known better. Is there any way to see your ruler's opinion of others? It was a bit of a struggle to find the Find Character menu, but no dice there, just their opinion of me.
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May 9, 2021 05:17
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This game is like Caves of Qud in where i love every aspect of it but i can just go fart around in a shooter. But when it catches you it catches you. I just want to leave work and go smoke and play CK3! gently caress!
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May 9, 2021 05:20
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Kaza42 posted:Ok, so the Roman Empire wasn't a series of bickering strongmen, but we were talking about the Byzantine Empire. What were they like?  Look buddy you can be wrong all you want but don't go bringing me into it. FreudianSlippers posted:More than a century after going clan I'm just starting to make enough money to afford to raise my entire army Don't do that. Also  I knew Clan sucked but I didn't realize it was that bad. If it's that bad for a player no wonder Clan AI's are so helpless in the late game
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May 9, 2021 06:56
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verbal enema posted:but then i would have left our ancestral home :c THANK YOU. I too hate the idea of picking a challenging or different start and then just packing up and moving somewhere else.
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May 9, 2021 12:10
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what game from paradox has Attila The Hun?
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May 9, 2021 13:09
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verbal enema posted:what game from paradox has Attila The Hun? I don't think any do, he predates crusader kings, his kids didn't do a hell of a lot, and there's no real genealogy to speak of to trace him. He's also later than the timeline of imperium universalis so I don't think there's a modded version either
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May 9, 2021 13:20
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Azhais posted:I don't think any do, he predates crusader kings, his kids didn't do a hell of a lot, and there's no real genealogy to speak of to trace him. He's also later than the timeline of imperium universalis so I don't think there's a modded version either drat guess ill just play that insanely badass AoK campaign again
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May 9, 2021 13:26
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Azhais posted:I don't think any do, he predates crusader kings, his kids didn't do a hell of a lot, and there's no real genealogy to speak of to trace him. He's also later than the timeline of imperium universalis so I don't think there's a modded version either There's a mod for CK2 that lets you play as one of Atilla's offspring. He's a OPM somewhere near Crimea.
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May 9, 2021 13:59
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Azhais posted:I don't think any do, he predates crusader kings, his kids didn't do a hell of a lot, and there's no real genealogy to speak of to trace him. He's also later than the timeline of imperium universalis so I don't think there's a modded version either When The World Stopped Making Sense just barely post-dates his death, I think, there might be a Hunnic rump state floating around in that.
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May 9, 2021 13:59
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verbal enema posted:drat guess ill just play that insanely badass AoK campaign again There's also Total War Attila which is one of the best TW games. Very moody and atmospheric.
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May 9, 2021 14:36
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verbal enema posted:but then i would have left our ancestral home :c Counterpoint: I've never done a Viking run, nor have I ever done a North Africa run, so why not combine the two? Now I also can't wait to get done with work so I can raid it up.
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May 9, 2021 14:37
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Moon Slayer posted:Counterpoint: I've never done a Viking run, nor have I ever done a North Africa run, so why not combine the two? Now I also can't wait to get done with work so I can raid it up. yeah how does that go? Just varengian adventure the ivory coast?
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May 9, 2021 17:54
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I'm hearing sounds of the ocean even after closing the game. Not complaining it's very calming but I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to happen.
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May 10, 2021 01:32
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FreudianSlippers posted:I'm hearing sounds of the ocean even after closing the game. You're probably sitting too close to a sea shell
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May 10, 2021 01:59
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it stopped suddenly. mods are asleep posting tall Burgundy 
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May 10, 2021 02:12
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Giving me big EUIV on launch feelings
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May 10, 2021 02:22
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So a playable republic mod came out recently. Anyone given it a shot yet? Seems relatively full featured.
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May 10, 2021 02:48
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FreudianSlippers posted:I'm hearing sounds of the ocean even after closing the game. Same happens to me. I think the game doesn't close as cleanly as it should, sometimes.
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May 10, 2021 09:07
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Managed to win a crusade for Jerusalem by raising about a 1000 men and sending them to siege an English holding in the Netherlands. This caused the entire Crusader army to turn their boats around and land somewhere to slog across central Europe to get to me. By then I had already occupied it and although their doomstack easily cut through my levies they took so long getting back the war had already ticked up to 100% for the defenders without a single crusader ever stepping foot in the holy land.
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May 10, 2021 13:05
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Veryslightlymad posted:It's very annoying when they lose the duchy they named after, because the new kingdom will not only be next to the duchy with the same name and crest (minus the crown on top), but they will be exactly the same color. changing country colours still breaks achievements wtf Paradox
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May 10, 2021 13:53
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I wish this game had a "wait, what just happened?" button. I started as Alfred the Great and a few failsons later while I'm trying to gobble up the rest of England I suddenly inherit most of northern Spain. I've been marrying a few daughters to various members of the King of Asturias' dynasty to secure them as allies against the Norse/Scots/Irish/welsh. It's not therefore crazy that somewhere down the line my latest King had a claim but it would be nice to see exactly how the dominos fell such that Harold II, king of England, Wales and now Spain achieved his latest crown seemingly by accident.
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May 10, 2021 15:23
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If you open the title you inherited there is a Title History button, which should reveal enough to figure it out.FreudianSlippers posted:Managed to win a crusade for Jerusalem by raising about a 1000 men and sending them to siege an English holding in the Netherlands. This caused the entire Crusader army to turn their boats around and land somewhere to slog across central Europe to get to me. By then I had already occupied it and although their doomstack easily cut through my levies they took so long getting back the war had already ticked up to 100% for the defenders without a single crusader ever stepping foot in the holy land. Lol glorious
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May 10, 2021 15:24
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verbal enema posted:yeah how does that go? Just varengian adventure the ivory coast? I've only done a test run but that's pretty much the plan, except I was looking for at Fes. Problem is North Africa is just outside of range so it requires a layover in Wales or Ireland first.
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AttitudeAdjuster posted:I wish this game had a "wait, what just happened?" button. Someone likely nominated you or your spouse. Or your spouse was high enough in line that when the title holder died they inherited. I assume the latter is what happened.
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