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ant colonies organize themselves into heirarchical social structures (see: a bug's life) and deserve to be eaten
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Gonna get chickens too. Little flock of happy healthy birds providing fresh eggs all the time 
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finally some good posts itt
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May 10, 2021 00:05
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EAT THE RICHly seasoned pork cutlets
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May 10, 2021 00:05
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r.i.p. wesley willis
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Kindest Forums User posted:Maybe my problem isn't with indigenous people eating meat. Maybe it's the western lifestyle that's extremely harmful and maybe its a good idea we carefully think about our personal relationship with it. Maybe criticising excessive and harmful consumption is a necessary condition to the emancipation of human and animal. And maybe we shouldn't reject that conversation as liberal classism. And maybe you do that because it's an easy justification for your own poor behaviour? this all seems correct. we live in a system where even all our fruits and vegetables are only available thanks to untold human suffering, including literal slavery, military occupation, the most brutal forms of imperialist extraction and exploitation. the liberal classism is once you make it a moral issue, when there are good and bad people based on these non-choices
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May 10, 2021 00:07
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Yossarian-22 posted:lol you acted like the pompous non-consumer was a strawman and that enlightened "anti-western" western communists aren't like that and then you told on yourself, bravo. do you go around telling people that you don't even own a tv? I'm calling you and other posters out specifically because goons are notorious gluttons, and they will often twist themselves into knots to justify their own poor behaviour. I don't speak to or judge people in real life the same way as I do here. I also expect different things from fellow activists than I do from strangers. I'm slinging poo poo at you in way I wouldnt with anybody else because one would hope that a leftist forums would endorse political platforms that prevent harmful exploitation instead of rejecting it completely by calling it liberal classism. Because you take everything I say to the absolute extreme and assume I'm some intolerable assholes who hates meat eating poor people, means you've already made up your mind about anti-meat activists. So I'm going to do the same with you. You are a fat shameful glutton that consumes exploitative material and you justify with lovely politics
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May 10, 2021 00:10
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didnt read thread but would like to say that lentils are ftw
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Flunky posted:didnt read thread but would like to say that lentils are ftw yea they're good
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May 10, 2021 00:11
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dont care what else you eat but eat lentils or go to hell!
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May 10, 2021 00:11
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Back in the earlier days of tumblr when it was less about porn and more about horrible people coming together and reinforcing each others unhinged behavior there was a group of militant vegans that kept accidentally making non-vegans sound cooler. Did poo poo like call meat eaters blood mouths which is metal as hell
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May 10, 2021 00:13
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whats tumblr about now
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Fortaleza posted:Back in the earlier days of tumblr when it was less about porn and more about horrible people coming together and reinforcing each others unhinged behavior there was a group of militant vegans that kept accidentally making non-vegans sound cooler. Did poo poo like call meat eaters blood mouths which is metal as hell yeah the alt-right never managed to establish a foothold on tumblr, people would just post gay porn at them until they left
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:this all seems correct. we live in a system where even all our fruits and vegetables are only available thanks to untold human suffering, including literal slavery, military occupation, the most brutal forms of imperialist extraction and exploitation. the liberal classism is once you make it a moral issue, when there are good and bad people based on these non-choices I mean, I think there's a difference between what your saying, categorizing meat eaters as bad people. And what I have been saying: is that we, as political organizers struggling for global emancipation, should expect good behaviour among cadre, and promote good things in our political platform. Is this really that controversial?
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so do vegans refuse antivenom if they get bitten by a snake? this is not an entirely joking question - 80 to 135 thousand people die a year from snake bite envenomation on average, about 3 times that number receive amputations or life changing injuries. most frequently the victims are from less wealthy countries, especially subsistence farmers who cause far less damage to the environment than your average western vegan. should they be refused treatment because making antivenoms simply isn't possible under vegan morality? tokin opposition posted:my actual take is that veganism is good for your health done correctly, considerable evidence points to extremely widespread nutritional deficiency amongst vegans regardless of other factors including type of vegan diet. without supplements (which require industrial production on the necessary scale) it's simply not a remotely sustainable or healthy diet; perhaps this is a reason that no society on earth has pursued strict veganism long term in human history? it's also worrying the effect this is likely to have on developing children - there have been many cases of long term health problems and even a number of deaths caused by parents enforcing strict vegan diets on their children. in some cases vegan parents have been found criminally liable in causing the death or injury of their children. Studies such as this: https://www.researchgate.net/public...The_Netherlands tend to suggest that it's simply not possible to feed young children strict vegan diets without causing alarming levels of important nutritional deficiencies that effect growth and psychomotor development. note that in this study these deficiencies at a crucial development period were ubiquitous for those on a strict vegan diet and that it concluded these kids should get some fatty fish and some milk at the very least. i would agree that current western diets aren't healthy and are destructive to the environment; but i agree with vegans on that in the same way, and to the same extent, that i agree that we're overusing antibiotics yet still don't support homeopathy as the only moral form of medicine
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May 10, 2021 00:16
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Jose posted:is drinking a womans/mans piss as a sex thing vegan requirement to be a level 2 vegan
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May 10, 2021 00:24
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mark immune posted:sorry baw, Im Christian and God wants me to eat meat. no offense to vegans, but telling me to stop or judging me for it is religious persecution. murder was invented because God prefers meat to veggies
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May 10, 2021 00:24
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Every time there's a boring post in this thread I'm going to do the macho man WOO and kill a cow with a single punch
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May 10, 2021 00:29
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Stoner Sloth posted:so do vegans refuse antivenom if they get bitten by a snake? What do you think?
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May 10, 2021 00:29
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baw posted:of course we go with the vegan society's definition which includes the phrase "as far as is possible and practicable," but if you call yourself a leftist and you're not a vegan you're a massive shitocrite who only selectively cares about the suffering of both human and non-human animals im sorry but your wrong
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May 10, 2021 00:32
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mao killed a lot of landlords but he also killed a lot of rats, flies, mosquitoes and sparrows
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There are lots of great reasons to be vegan and/or eat mostly plants. Id love to see statistics on how many people have been successfully shamed into becoming vegan long-term though. Seems to me the best advertisement is living a happy and healthy vegan life and not seeking out conversions. One common side-effect of adopting veganism seems to be (hopefully) short-term amnesia about having not previously been vegan. Some good reading if anyone cares: Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer, Veganism in an Oppressive World edited by Julia Feliz Brueck, and this interview with Dr. Margaret Robinson: https://animalpeopleforum.org/2020/09/23/decolonizing-veganism-an-interview-with-dr-margaret-robinson/ Anyway now Im curious about Norwegian leftists...
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May 10, 2021 00:42
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im sure there are some great reasons to be vegan, but let's consider lard
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You would say that, blood mouth
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Fortaleza posted:horrible people coming together and reinforcing each others unhinged behavior that's everywhere
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May 10, 2021 01:37
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Im republican
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i subsist solely on those canned hams you can get at cvs
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Kindest Forums User posted:I'm calling you and other posters out specifically because goons are notorious gluttons, and they will often twist themselves into knots to justify their own poor behaviour. mice meltdown but i was pretty clear that such behavior is cool and good and personally i love pigs so i don't eat them. and many here have agreed that it's fine and even admirable to take a personal anti-consumerist stand just as long as you don't make a big deal about it, which you don't seem to know how to do
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May 10, 2021 02:01
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so can I want more equitably distribution of delicious flesh?
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Kindest Forums User posted:I mean, I think there's a difference between what your saying, categorizing meat eaters as bad people. And what I have been saying: is that we, as political organizers struggling for global emancipation, should expect good behaviour among cadre, and promote good things in our political platform. Is this really that controversial? it is because who gives a flying gently caress if the people you're trying to organize at mcdonalds eat their own supply? "good behavior" might mean organizing against factory farming but again, even the "organizer" is in a liberal activist milieu (even if they don't think they are and identify as communist) that exists worlds apart from the material conditions and reality of most working class people. bourgeois moralism has no place within a socialist movement
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May 10, 2021 02:11
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anyone here ever tried eating rocks?
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May 10, 2021 02:14
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I crack open the geode and eat the shiny meat inside
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May 10, 2021 02:23
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if you're vegan can you kill a tick that's burrowed into you
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Kindest Forums User posted:I'm calling you and other posters out specifically because goons are notorious gluttons, and they will often twist themselves into knots to justify their own poor behaviour. Posting isn't activism
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May 10, 2021 02:29
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pumped to have meatballs tomorrow
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May 10, 2021 02:30
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Good soup! posted:pumped to have meatballs tomorrow I am having leftover salmon that I bought at the store and made yesterday and I made it into fish cakes with fresh dill and shallots and celery. I'm also drinking seaweed gin
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May 10, 2021 02:32
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sorry liberals, I'm gonna eat beef and chicken and pork and eggs and milk, and I'm gonna keep doing it at least until you give me some loving trains
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:this all seems correct. we live in a system where even all our fruits and vegetables are only available thanks to untold human suffering, including literal slavery, military occupation, the most brutal forms of imperialist extraction and exploitation. the liberal classism is once you make it a moral issue, when there are good and bad people based on these non-choices yeah. it's like the difference between buying a gas car or an electric car. the difference, even on a national scale, is insignificant, because the exploitation and environmental damage is happening either way. you just get to be smug about one.
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whaley posted:anyone here ever tried eating rocks? surely some spices must count as rocks
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