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There is nothing passive about my aggression with people being weird and lovely to each other for no reason here, I am actively complaining and it feels like you are ignoring everything that caused me to get fatigued in the first place. I’ll cop to that I should have reported someone literally saying that they fully intend to cause a lovely derail rather than just complaining about it. But this is a recurring thing that you appear to be ignoring and you’re here now, so what’s up?
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Coolguye posted:There is nothing passive about my aggression with people being weird and lovely to each other for no reason here, I am actively complaining and it feels like you are ignoring everything that caused me to get fatigued in the first place. I’ll cop to that I should have reported someone literally saying that they fully intend to cause a lovely derail rather than just complaining about it. But this is a recurring thing that you appear to be ignoring and you’re here now, so what’s up? Ignoring what? I just said I have not read the thread, I have seen your post reported and come asking for information. Where do I need to start? I posted last year about not having endless EGS derails because there is an EGS thread to have that discussion in. Is that what you were referring to by saying we sweep things under the rug? I think asking for specifics to be in the more appropriate thread is fine and something that happens all over the forums. If it is not that, then I apologise. I have not been reading the thread. What was the post of yours reported referring to? Can you link the start of it?
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May 10, 2021 20:55
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Jim literally linked the post that kicked it off directly before your post at the end of the last page. And provided commentary about how it started, too.
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May 10, 2021 20:57
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Coolguye posted:Jim literally linked the post that kicked it off directly before your post at the end of the last page. And provided commentary about how it started, too. I am not reading any hostility in any of that discussion from Jim's post on. It looks like Jim has been helping people there. I am confused.
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May 10, 2021 21:01
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If the conversation is productive than at least 3 other posters missed that memo. Paroid, HarmB, cagefreeegghead, and jim himself, as demonstrated by accusations of gross neckbeardism and other snideness while discussing architecture and networks. My perception was not unique, as bottom liner and kuule echoed the sentiment directly after. I am confused as to why I need to spell all of this out, this is not a precedent set literally anywhere else. Should I be prepared with a full briefing every time or do you just disagree that it was a problem? If you disagree, just say you’ve looked over stuff and you don’t agree. If I disagree back I might say so but that’s the end of it, this isn’t rocket science.
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May 10, 2021 21:13
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Coolguye posted:I am confused as to why I need to spell all of this out, this is not a precedent set literally anywhere else. Should I be prepared with a full briefing every time or do you just disagree that it was a problem? If you disagree, just say you’ve looked over stuff and you don’t agree. If I disagree back I might say so but that’s the end of it, this isn’t rocket science. I think VideoGames is just trying to understand your perspective, not, like, putting you on trial or anything. I looked over the posts on the last couple pages and while I am not nearly educated enough in data security to fully understand the discussion, it kinda just looked like a discussion to me. You're talking about passive-aggressive sniping and something that requires mod action, so I believe VG was trying to see from your perspective which posts were the problem posts. If you're referring to Jim's "I will fight dissenting opinions" post that read to me like a Twitter-style "don't @ me" joke but maybe I lack context? Edit: to go more big-picture, neither of us really follow this thread, so if there are pervasive issues (which you seemed to indicate there were in a post on the previous page), we're not aware of them and not finding them on our own. It'd be helpful to know what issues you're seeing in specific so that we can address them. Harrow fucked around with this message at 21:26 on May 10, 2021 |
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I don’t think the comments about being a gross neckbeard and lmao don’t do this is isn’t 200X need a lot of context or explanation, nor do the posts afterward regarding “not sure who you think is decent but”. We’ve all been on these forums for a long time, these sorts of things are absolutely how nerd fights start. I also am not sure where this idea of me being on trial even came from. I’m honestly flummoxed that someone whose job it is to look over this is, seemingly, asking to be spoon fed a full brief when they can’t take my side of things as reliable anyway since I’m the one who is complaining. What is the expectation here? Again: if you disagree just say so and that’s more or less that. But this started with a weird question of “why are you posting this way” and now has gone to this weird implication that I’m on trial. What am I supposed to think?
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May 10, 2021 21:38
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being extremely normal brained and reading "stop being weird we're not putting you on trial" as "aha so you admit that i am being put on trial"
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May 10, 2021 21:43
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 I wish I lived in a world where "This program is better than that program." was the most hostile thing I've seen all decade.
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Coolguye posted:I don’t think the comments about being a gross neckbeard and lmao don’t do this is isn’t 200X need a lot of context or explanation, nor do the posts afterward regarding “not sure who you think is decent but”. We’ve all been on these forums for a long time, these sorts of things are absolutely how nerd fights start. We are trying to understand your perspective, because while we may read things one way, clearly you read them another, and when we don't agree on that, it seems productive to try to understand why. What you're pointing out looks to me like some lighthearted ribbing about nerdy things and data security. You clearly read them as sharper barbs than I do, and I, at least, thought perhaps there was some context I was missing because I don't read this thread. Maybe there's a history of bad arguments here that I haven't personally seen because I don't follow the thread and I didn't see reports about them. So I thought it was worth asking whether there was something I was missing. If there wasn't, then I think we simply disagree on how aggressive the discussion in question was.
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got some chores tonight posted:being extremely normal brained and reading "stop being weird we're not putting you on trial" as "aha so you admit that i am being put on trial"
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coolguye I'm sorry that I said it was neckbeardy to host your own server with all of your encrypted passwords, and that it might be difficult for less talented computer touchers to do, and that the bitwarden hosting is probably fine, or whatever you're mad about, it's my bad
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Captain Monkey posted:coolguye I'm sorry that I said it was neckbeardy to host your own server with all of your encrypted passwords, and that it might be difficult for less talented computer touchers to do, and that the bitwarden hosting is probably fine, or whatever you're mad about, it's my bad They didn't like how the mods handled the Epic derail last year and are presumably using this as a way to ??? Coolguye posted:Lots of words
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May 10, 2021 22:07
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Wow this free entertainment didn't even need me to put my email address into a mailing list
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Coolguye posted:I don’t think the comments about being a gross neckbeard and lmao don’t do this is isn’t 200X need a lot of context or explanation, nor do the posts afterward regarding “not sure who you think is decent but”. We’ve all been on these forums for a long time, these sorts of things are absolutely how nerd fights start. I think you're the only one who saw those posts as an issue, and you're turning it into a bigger thing than it is. It turns out you do, in fact, need to spell things out. You could have just been clear and stated what you thought the problem was if you actually wanted something done about it or gotten a direct response about it, rather than beat around the bush and expect everyone to read your mind and automatically know what posts you had an issue with and why, then complain when it turns out nobody can do that.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Wow this free entertainment didn't even need me to put my email address into a mailing list you did have to give 
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Harrow posted:We are trying to understand your perspective, because while we may read things one way, clearly you read them another, and when we don't agree on that, it seems productive to try to understand why. got some chores tonight posted:being extremely normal brained and reading "stop being weird we're not putting you on trial" as "aha so you admit that i am being put on trial" Sailor Dave posted:I think you're the only one who saw those posts as an issue, and you're turning it into a bigger thing than it is. It turns out you do, in fact, need to spell things out. You could have just been clear and stated what you thought the problem was if you actually wanted something done about it or gotten a direct response about it, rather than beat around the bush and expect everyone to read your mind and automatically know what posts you had an issue with and why, then complain when it turns out nobody can do that. like if we want to have this conversation then let's have the conversation, but don't goad me to have the conversation and then tell me i'm a weirdo for having the conversation. like what.
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let’s not have the conversation because it’s not about free games and someone saying it’s ok to use bitesrden’s cloud server storage didn’t harm you in any way. Even if they gently suggested it’s nerdy not to do that.
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May 10, 2021 22:26
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repiv posted:you did have to give Jeffrey please do not steal my mangosteencoins
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I, for one, thank this thread for the suggestion about Bitwarden. I found it genuinely helpful. 
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Farquar posted:I, for one, thank this thread for the suggestion about Bitwarden. I found it genuinely helpful. yes bitwarden is v good this is definitely true i also actually do agree with do not self host fwiw, it's a lot of extra effort for not a lot of benefit
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repiv posted:you did have to give creating an account isn't required to view the forums, so they didn't have to give anyone their email address.
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self-hosting is actively harmful if you don't have backups somewhere off-site, outside your house because it means you could potentially lose all your data/passwords if your poo poo gets struck by lightning or a burgler takes all your electronics while you're at work or whatever
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For what it’s worth I didn’t find anything posted here passive aggressive or really any bit out of line except maybe being off topic, but security being an ever important thing I think having healthy discussions of it and how it pertains to your online safety can lead to various ways of handling it. To me I self host because it gives me control. I don’t have my BW instance pointed towards the internet so it’s a much smaller threat than if I did. But yes the benefits are small for doing so this way. And that’s fine. Just giving another perspective on why you’d want to. RPATDO_LAMD posted:self-hosting is actively harmful if you don't have backups somewhere off-site, outside your house This is a good thought too. If you’re self hosting anything remotely important you should always follow the 3-2-1 backup rule.
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:self-hosting is actively harmful if you don't have backups somewhere off-site, outside your house the original point of it being a relatively easier attack surface in practice is also extremely true. like, if you have a properly updated linux machine that you take care to KEEP updated, and you have a backup system that is properly locked down with cold storage procedures in place, etc etc, then yes, absolutely, self-hosting is strictly better because attackers generally need some extra motivation to try stuff beyond known exploits. if you're bill gates or something then ok they have that motivation, but random internet nerd 69 doesn't provide that incentive. they always have incentive to be attacking bitwarden. but all that requires a shitload of time and effort to solve the problem and keep it solved and nobody should be surprised to find out that a lot of folks have more important things in their lives.
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The Dream Machine - Chapters 1 & 2 free on Steam through the 17th. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWM9KIUxrL0 For Amazon-Prime-Havers: Faraway: Director's Cut was just added to Prime Gaming.
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free games fun
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Lutha Mahtin posted:free games fun The dream machine isn't though. It's a buggy mess
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The true cost of the free games is the unreasonable amount of time you'll spend sifting through the pages of derails and goon meltdowns to find them.
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I should say as games IK I do follow this thread and while it does derail semi-frequently it's usually kiinda relevant to the topic and people get back on track after not too long, so I don't tend to see it as worthwhile to intervene. I can remind people to post free games more regularly if you guys would prefer that though. Uhh, I should probably take my own advice, so, latest free games on Epic are Pine - A story of Humans, and Core if that hasn't already been noted!
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RBA Starblade posted:The dream machine isn't though. It's a buggy mess The first two chapters are a good test of your mettle. For those unaware, it runs on Flash, and in my experience would get really bogged down and start chugging after about 45 minutes. This is on a pretty decent PC too. The environment and interactions are pretty charming, but the puzzles get pretty convoluted as you progress. I used a walkthrough for a decent amount of it. All that said, at $0 I’d give it a try.
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the best game of all is of course "the game of getting free games" and as you can all tell, we've bumped up to the next level recently, so the difficulty is ramping up a bit. There are quite a few really really weird posts that don't contain free games -- so you can't go clicking on everything. In other words, consider the last two pages the hidden object level of Getting Free Games. Carry on.
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Skwirl posted:creating an account isn't required to view the forums, so they didn't have to give anyone their email address. Worse, they chose to pay 10 bucks for this
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Pushing the limits of what counts as "free" games: I recently discovered you can get free access to Xbox GamePass for PC by using Microsoft Rewards points. Basically, Microsoft has a loyalty points system where you earn points by doing Bing searches, clicking on a few quizzes and activities each day, and eventually claiming a reward. You can get other stuff too (including Skype credit, GamePass Ultimate etc), but it's pretty easy to build up enough points for a free month of GamePass for PC. There's a huge number of great games on there, including the entire Bethesda catalogue, and you get access to the full EA Play library too. Fair warning: it takes about three weeks of daily searches and clicks to earn enough points for a free month. However, a handy little extension for Google Chrome called ABS (Automatic Bing Searches) can run through your daily searches and quizzes in a separate tab, saving you a bunch of time. It'll even spoof browser IDs so you get extra points for "using" Microsoft Edge desktop and mobile versions. Like I said, I realise it's pushing the boundaries of "free games", but for pretty minimal effort you can get free access to a pretty good library of games - not just indie shovelware.
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It’s the idle clicker of free games
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It is repeatable, though I do have to question how much effort it actually is to earn 6800 points a month every month. I only get about 4000 points a month, but that's without ABS plugin.
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I use ABS (on firefox) and it's zero effort because you can schedule it. I just get home and close the 5 tabs it opened while I was gone. The auto-redeem monthly $10 store credit on xbox is also a good use for it.
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~Coxy posted:It is repeatable, though I do have to question how much effort it actually is to earn 6800 points a month every month. I just open a new browser window and set ABS going as I make breakfast in the morning, then idly click through the offers on the rewards site as I eat. It doesn’t take long at all. In the UK (where I am) with the streak bonuses I’m just able to generate enough points for the PC game pass each month. You can also get an extra month (in hand) if you turn on repeatable billing (just don’t forget to turn it off, although it only kicks in once you have used up your points).
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If you want a picture of the future, imagine a bot making daily Bing searches to generate Microsoft loyalty points — forever.
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