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The SituAsian posted:And there goes any reason to watch Mayweather-Paul What the gently caress, thats so dumb!
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^^^ wolf tickets
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May 11, 2021 13:04
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I know Canelo is heavier than Mayweather but gently caress I want to see that fight. Give them 100m a piece, what does it matter to me. It will make literally a billion space bucks. I could watch that matchup forever. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 21:22 on May 12, 2021 |
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May 12, 2021 21:16
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A rematch with Canelo is absolutely the bridge too far for Floyd, but I guess that doesn't mean he wouldn't do it. I'd say he's too smart but pride is wierd.
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May 12, 2021 21:21
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Jack B Nimble posted:A rematch with Canelo is absolutely the bridge too far for Floyd, but I guess that doesn't mean he wouldn't do it. I'd say he's too smart but pride is wierd. I want to see Floyd knocked out* and I'll pay for it goddamnit. *Not a forgone conclusion. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 21:28 on May 12, 2021 |
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May 12, 2021 21:25
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I’m think Mayweather is one of the greatest boxers of all time but Canelo right now would probably beat the gently caress out of him.
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May 12, 2021 21:26
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boop the snoot posted:I’m think Mayweather is one of the greatest boxers of all time but Canelo right now would probably beat the gently caress out of him. I'm not sure - I have no idea how Mayweather has been training in 'retirement'. As much as we give poo poo to Mayweather that dude is a boxer through and through and I guarantee he's still training pretty loving hard. Mayweather's Philly shell defense is pretty much a hard counter to Canelo. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 21:41 on May 12, 2021 |
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May 12, 2021 21:33
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I'd like Canelo's chances in a rematch but I have a hard time seeing Floyd pass up the easy money of fighting exhibitions vs youtubers, MMA fighters, and Japanese children to risk his 0 and his health for a fight with someone he's already beaten
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May 12, 2021 21:42
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Kaddish posted:Mayweather's Philly shell defense is pretty much a hard counter to Canelo. If he can't corner Floyd, I tend to agree, that he's not slick enough to get real points or damage on Floyd [the last version we've seen].
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May 12, 2021 21:45
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I just can't believe it; age comes for everyone and Canelo now is bigger, stronger, probably has faster reflexes, and is so much more experienced than their first fight. Can Mayweather even command respect with his punches today? He fought, what, 18 lbs lighter against McGregor than Canelo is now?
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May 12, 2021 21:48
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kimbo305 posted:Could Canelo execute a Maidana gameplan? The size would help. Pressure and cornering against Mayweather has been the plan for like 30 his opponents.
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May 12, 2021 21:52
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Yeah, Floyd's game is crucially reflex based, so even a small slip would get him eating jabs like never before, even if he can dodge the rest. But if he has that in a hypothetical rematch, it would still be a point scoring victory for him. Kaddish posted:Pressure and cornering against Mayweather has been the plan for like 30 his opponents. Yes, but 1) there is a fighter that could win on it. Maybe not alive, and not Maidana and maybe not Canelo, but the plan obviously has merit. 2) Clearly Canelo is growing into one of the best to do it, even if he's not necessarily shapeable into that archetype of fighter. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 21:56 on May 12, 2021 |
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May 12, 2021 21:54
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Also doesn't Floyd hate fighting another counter puncher?
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May 12, 2021 21:56
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I wouldn’t even consider Canelo in Floyd’s weight class anymore. He’s a monster now. Did Mayweather ever fight at 160+?
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May 12, 2021 22:00
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boop the snoot posted:I wouldn’t even consider Canelo in Floyd’s weight class anymore. He’s a monster now. Did Mayweather ever fight at 160+? Edit: I believe he was 149 against McGregor.
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May 12, 2021 22:01
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kimbo305 posted:Yes, but 1) there is a fighter that could win on it. Maybe not alive, and not Maidana and maybe not Canelo, but the plan obviously has merit. Yes, I think Canelo can do it today, May 12 in the year our Lord 2021, and that's why I want to see it. I don't see it happening though. Unless they give Canelo the Mayweather payday. Then who knows. But Canelo is still boxing, still defending/getting titles. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 22:08 on May 12, 2021 |
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May 12, 2021 22:06
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I just love boxing again. So many good bouts in the last few years.
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May 12, 2021 22:24
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boop the snoot posted:I’m think Mayweather is one of the greatest boxers of all time but Canelo right now would probably beat the gently caress out of him. Canelo is now several weight classes higher than Floyd ever was, so uh, yeah. Canelo @ 168 still loses to Roy Jones, Andre Ward, Joe Calzaghe at least.
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May 14, 2021 00:21
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Didn't Floyd indirectly acknowledge after the Canelo fight that he fought Canelo then because he saw him as a developing generational talent, wanted to fight him before his prime, and be the one L on Canelo's record? Like, not explicitly, but in a roundabout way through his answers to other questions, I mean. Am I misremembering something
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May 14, 2021 01:26
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At the time it seemed canelo wasn’t ready yet which is why floyd pushed for it.
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May 14, 2021 03:07
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I don't think Floyd would fight Canelo right now, but what would make y'all think Canelo wouldn't have to cut down to Floyd's weight?
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May 14, 2021 03:12
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I think if they meet somewhere in the middle the fighter that cuts down is going to regain a lot of the weight by the time of the fight. But I mostly think Floyd is 44.
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May 14, 2021 03:37
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yeah i don’t think mayweather, who was cherrypicking his matches to get to 50-0, is especially interested in coming out of retirement for real to fight the p4p #1 who he already beat it’s a huge bummer but canelo doesn’t have the name recognition and box office pull of random non boxing athlete or meathead youtuber
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May 14, 2021 12:57
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Mayweather-Canelo II would have been huge back in 2016 or so, with Mayweather coming off the Pacquiao win and fighting for the lineal middleweight championship Canelo had picked up against Cotto. Floyd went with easy money against Conor instead though and who can blame him? My personal stance is that the Alvarez in Golovkin I would have lost to a (35-year-old) Floyd Mayweather and the Alvarez in Golovkin II would have won against him.
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May 14, 2021 14:19
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Oh and it sounds like Fury-Joshua is looking likely for August 14th in Saudi Arabia according to Bob Arum.
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The Ninth Layer posted:Oh and it sounds like Fury-Joshua is looking likely for August 14th in Saudi Arabia according to Bob Arum. Can’t wait!
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The Ninth Layer posted:Oh and it sounds like Fury-Joshua is looking likely for August 14th in Saudi Arabia according to Bob Arum. just for imagination’s sake, how much do we think it would cost to attend this fight? including airfare, hotel, etc. $4000 USD? Though I figure it’s probably an arena with a lot of seats so maybe tickets wouldn’t be as much as I think. Either way, I’m glad the fight is actually happening. Though, gently caress Saudi Arabia.
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May 14, 2021 16:05
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Your guess is as good as mine honestly. Tickets for Joshua-Ruiz II also in Saudi Arabia started at $131 but I would not be surprised if Fury-Joshua tickets started closer to the $2000 mark or higher, before resale. For what it's worth, this could be the kind of fight where in theory tickets are made available to the general audience but in practice unless you're an oil baron's relative or an ambassador you're probably not gonna get one.
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Joshua is far more skilled than Wilder and has that mean uppercut. This seems like it'll be another Fury-Klitschko where Fury uses his movement and range rather than the wrecking ball approach used in the second fight against Wilder. I am sure he'll lean on Joshua like crazy in the clinches. It might not be a spectacular fight to watch, even though I will be pleased to see it finally happen.
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That Manuel Charr vs Chris Lovejoy fight may be the worst fight I’ve ever seen. Not sure how Lovejoy ended up 19-0 with 19 KOs, he looked totally inept in there, and completely quit the first time Charr landed anything of note. Charr didn’t look much better, but at least he looked like a legitimate professional boxer of some level. Charr remains the “WBA World Champion in Recess”, whatever the gently caress that means. Not sure why he wasn’t able to fight in the last 3.5 years either. Just a humiliating situation for the WBA.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:That Manuel Charr vs Chris Lovejoy fight may be the worst fight I’ve ever seen. Not sure how Lovejoy ended up 19-0 with 19 KOs, he looked totally inept in there, and completely quit the first time Charr landed anything of note. Charr didn’t look much better, but at least he looked like a legitimate professional boxer of some level. lovejoy fought all 19 fights in mexico with no footage make of that what you will (the wba is a fuckin joke lmao)
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https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/746640 look at this poo poo lmfao not even can crushing, he’s crushing something much flimsier than cans, maybe juiceboxes i clicked on three at random and they’re all round 1 tkos Declan MacManus fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 15, 2021 |
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Declan MacManus posted:lovejoy fought all 19 fights in mexico with no footage Did Lovejoy's manager write this? https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14955716/heavyweight-chris-lovejoy-manuel-charr-fights-mexico/
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there are just so many red flags everywhere on that page even without looking at the guys he's faced he's got more fights in bars than in gyms/arenas and five times he's fought two straight weekends
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You may not like it but this is what heavyweight world championship boxing is all about https://twitter.com/TimBoxeo/status/1393662236556677121
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May 15, 2021 22:51
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I love that aborted cartwheel.
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May 15, 2021 22:59
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LLCoolJD posted:I love that aborted cartwheel. lmao
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Re: Lovejoy and CharrJump King posted:Don King has a few other guys like this going on. Christopher Lovejoy was a good example recently. Lovejoy is an american heavyweight who started fighting professionally at age 32. 5 years later, he has 19 pro wins, every single one of them being knockout wins in Tijuana. Only one of his opponents had a winning record, and it was in the 90s. 8 of his opponents had never won a fight before. His record is a joke, and I'm being pretty generous in believing these fights actually happened and were legitimate contests. This is the most extreme version of the thing I was talking about earlier, you build a long record of phantom fights in Mexican barrooms until some more legitimate heavyweight looking for an easy win selects you to show up and collect a cheque. And hey you know, if you've been spending the years actually training in boxing you might even win. It just takes one punch at heavyweight, and if a fighter has to stoop so low they pick you for a challenger they might be something of an illusion as well. Lovejoy's day came when Eddie Hearn reached out and tried to book him in a televised fight against Dave Allen, a lacklustre but very popular fighter in the UK. Lovejoy packed his bags and immediately left for England, but just before the fight happens Don King calls in and shuts everything down, saying that he actually has Lovejoy under contract. This caught everybody by surprise, even Lovejoy, who assumed his contract was void after Don King didn't promote any fights for him, but that's what happens when you sign a Don King contract baby. (I think my favourite part of this is the reveal that Lovejoy's definitely real fights against 50 year old Mexicans weren't actually organized by Don King, he was doing it himself) Don King explained to Hearn that Lovejoy was supposed to fight another one of his heavyweights: Trevor Bryan. This wasn't actually in the works at all, but I guess it was a nice thought that King had in between meltdowns about trump losing the election. Hearn offered to schedule Bryan a spot on one of his upcoming televised cards if he'd let Lovejoy fight Allen. AFAIK this is a good deal btw, it basically accomplishes everything King wants in building up Bryan towards a potential money fight with a real heavyweight. Obviously King rejects this offer, deciding that his own machinations will be more productive. two figments of boxers against each other lol
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LLCoolJD posted:I love that aborted cartwheel. i thought his nickname was diamond boy
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