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Ok Like, on a personal level, how does torturing a pig to death make you feel? As a joke but also doesn't that bother you? (detached from the act of killing, Thanks the brutal and cold machine of Capitalism or not)?
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CSPAM: *At the Burger King Drive Thru wearing a Che Guevara T-Shirt: "This is Praxis". ME: *At the Burger King Drive Thru wearing a Che Guevara T-Shirt WHILE ORDERING AN IMPOSSIBLE WHOPPER WITH NO CHEESE: "This is Praxis". Oolb has issued a correction as of 05:16 on May 14, 2021 |
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 https://www.lifeinnorway.net/scandinavian-socialism/ maybe the Norwegian leftists are a joke...
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vegan food that has to impersonate non vegan food is weak as hell. like I love black bean patties but if it was called ethical protien substitute I'd never eat it I'll feel the same way about non dairy "milk" just call it nut juice and lean into the crass jokes you cowards
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Agean90 posted:vegan food that has to impersonate non vegan food is weak as hell. like I love black bean patties but if it was called ethical protien substitute I'd never eat it You should tell that to the ancient monks who made seitan as a meat substitute.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:You should tell that to the ancient monks who made seitan as a meat substitute. Yeah and they just call it seitan and say it's made from fermented soy beans or whatever, same as tempeh, they don't give it cutesy names like chick'n and poo poo.
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Yeah, just fill the role. Example: Trader Joe's masala veggie burgers. Delicious potato patties. They can replace hamburgers because they've got that tender bite and they set up toppings. It's like, okay this is a hamburger. But they don't even try to taste like meat. They're just delicious.
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if Kraft singles are cheese daiya is cheese as far as Im concerned
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Do it ironically posted:if Kraft singles are cheese daiya is cheese as far as I’m concerned the first and best vegan cheese. i don't think the cheap ones even contain dairy at all, let alone anything recognizable as milk or cheese.
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my dad dated a lady who kept trying to trick me into trying soy milk but she didn't understand that my objection was to the milk part and not the soy part. Milk is gross af, it's an ingredient not a beverage as far as I'm concerned.
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Danann posted:Speaking personally, liberals and non-ML leftists have eagerly adopted Sinophobic rhetoric while simultaneously giving empty platitudes of the harm they are in the process of inflicting to their Asian fellows in recent months. I am on a hair trigger because of this. https://twitter.com/Soulogic/status/1354659418193838080 https://twitter.com/dotorii_muk/status/1354190498496471040 https://www.economist.com/1843/2018/07/02/china-the-birthplace-of-fake-meat quote:Amid this flurry of innovation in the West, its worth remembering that the Chinese have been using plant-based foods to mimic meat for hundreds of years. In the time of the Tang dynasty (AD618-907), an official hosted a banquet at which he served convincing replicas of pork and mutton dishes made from vegetables; in the 13th century, diners in the capital of the southern Song dynasty (Linan, now Hangzhou), had a wide choice of meat-free restaurants, including those that specialised in Buddhist vegetarian cuisine. quote:There was no explicit prohibition on meat-eating in early Buddhism. In the religions early days in India, mendicant monks were expected to eat anything that was put into their begging bowls, as long as they didnt suspect an animal had been slaughtered for their benefit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha_Jumps_Over_the_Wall quote:Buddha Jumps Over the Wall, also known as Buddha's Temptation (Chinese: 佛跳牆; pinyin: f tio qing), is a variety of shark fin soup in Fujian cuisine.[1][2] Since its creation during the Qing dynasty (16441912),[1] the dish has been regarded as a Chinese delicacy known for its rich taste,[3] and special manner of cooking.[1] The dish's name is an allusion to the dish's ability to entice the vegetarian Buddhist monks from their temples to partake in the meat-based dish, and implies that even the strictly vegetarian Gautama Buddha would try to jump over a wall to sample it..[4] It is high in protein and calcium.[5]
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to me, the holy grail of imitation foods is the gluten-free Italian beef, as what's needed to make Italian beef are so completely opposite of what you can get with imitation, vegetable or fungal protein; non-glutinous flour and additives, that if you could manage to make gluten-free bread that holds up like the most glutinous bread and imitation meat that holds up to a deli slicer, you'd be good
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I tried oat milk but it had a strange bitter aftertaste
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Larry Parrish posted:my dad dated a lady who kept trying to trick me into trying soy milk but she didn't understand that my objection was to the milk part and not the soy part. Milk is gross af, it's an ingredient not a beverage as far as I'm concerned. this is racism against whites
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corgiwizard posted:
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yr new gurlfrand! posted:I tried oat milk but it had a strange bitter aftertaste are you someone that likes grapefruit juice? I don't, so wondering if it's sort of like that
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Dustcat posted:refusing to participate in doing harm is not a waste of time The veganism itself is not actually preventing harm unless it occurs at such a large scale that it actually results in fewer animals being slaughtered. The harm - the animals being slaughtered and the impact this has the environment, etc - has already occurred by the time you're in the supermarket deciding not to buy some hamburger meat. Whether you choose to buy the meat and eat it is irrelevant. It's basically a weird indirect way to attempt to make farms slaughter fewer animals that almost certainly has zero influence. It would need to happen at a monumentally greater scale for it to result in farms actually lowering their meat production to meet lower demand. A position that just opposes livestock farms makes far more sense. It's true that red meat consumption is unethical as a broad practice, but an individual's choice to eat it or not has zero bearing on its production. Consumer choices are always a dead end and just give the illusion that you're doing something that matters.
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u know what you wont find though? anyone trying to make meat taste like plants
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Ytlaya posted:The veganism itself is not actually preventing harm unless it occurs at such a large scale that it actually results in fewer animals being slaughtered. The harm - the animals being slaughtered and the impact this has the environment, etc - has already occurred by the time you're in the supermarket deciding not to buy some hamburger meat. Whether you choose to buy the meat and eat it is irrelevant. right, capitalism ensures the effect of individual consumer behavior doesn't transform to the economic scale. crypto is the textbook example: the less energy I individually consume, the more and the cheaper energy for someone else to mine butts, because me lowering consumption doesn't destroy the physical coal plant. in fact, even if the plant gets shut down because the consumers all don't want to use coal, it probably won't be destroyed, which increases the incentive for someone to find a profitable use for this now-unutilized capital. likewise, me choosing not to eat meat doesn't destroy the factory farm. it's still physically there. my consumer choices can't very well change that--only collective or direct action can.
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capitalism means we can only go down trophic levels, not up, always down
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corgiwizard posted:
Hell yeah capitalism should fingerblast my butthole~
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antipope posted:u know what you wont find though? anyone trying to make meat taste like plants fcuk
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corgiwizard posted:
this is not an especially good overview. it gets some stuff right but misses a lot of other things to the point of outright falsification
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note that norwegian leftists are to a large extent a joke it's just less of a joke than most other places
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Thinking of starting a vegetarian restaurant to piss of the vegans. Every recipe using milk, eggs or honey.
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V. Illych L. posted:note that norwegian leftists are to a large extent a joke i might be confusing it with Sweden but I'm pretty sure their degenerated soc dem excuse for a left wing party gets less votes than the greens do here
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Larry Parrish posted:i might be confusing it with Sweden but I'm pretty sure their degenerated soc dem excuse for a left wing party gets less votes than the greens do here like, in sheer number of votes? i'm sure that this is the case, since yankeeland is like 70x norway's population norwegian leftists do occasionally get into positions of actual power, though, which makes them less of a joke than most other places
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actually checking, the norwegian labour party got more votes in the 2017 parliamentary election than howie hawkins did in 2020, not that i'd say that the norwegian labour party is especially leftist
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May 14, 2021 14:39
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ok but consider: British Leftists Are A Bigger Joke
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Victory Position posted:are you someone that likes grapefruit juice? I don't, so wondering if it's sort of like that I do like grapefruit juice, and grapefruits. maybe its like that
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i like grape fruit and oat milk
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antipope posted:u know what you wont find though? anyone trying to make meat taste like plants That's what marinades and seasonings do
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