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SubG posted:Whatever the storytelling equivalent of a cat always landing on its feet is, this is the opposite of that. bread always landing on the buttered side
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Do not want this! WTF is with women in this comic and trying to leap into people's arms? IWP did the exact same thing (or tried to) when she met Snout outside of Mongreltown. And while Snout was certainly helpful to both women, neither relationship was nearly long or close enough for that level of enthusiasm and intimacy. Snout gave IWP a place to sleep for the night and gave her spaceship some directions but that doesn't make them friends, let alone make them "glomp on sight" level of familiarity. At that time the only communication the two had exchanged without false pretenses was "help me", "How", "Find the ship", "No find ship, look tomorrow, okay?" (in bizarre caveman speak, for some reason) and "thank you". But IWP tries to jump into his arms the very next time they meet in person, and then two nights later they're cuddling nude together and on the third night she's kissing him goodnight as though they've somehow become a couple. With Corpsey, it seems they're just getting the glomping and nudity out of the way all at once. Obviously, a lot of this is more sad artistic masturbation, but I think some of it is because of the terrible "no dialogue" rule. Without words, the only way Mookie can communicate something as simple as "I'm happy to see you" is with big, over-the-top physical gestures. It's why everyone acts like such unstable lunatics: the Ink Witch can't just give beard-orc the finger after he writes snout a rude note, she's got to start shrieking inches away from his face.
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oriongates posted:WTF is with women in this comic and trying to leap into people's arms? PoptartsNinja posted:Dominic Deegan's Legacy is a webcomic in which Mookie has to remind cons about Dominic Deegan because he [...] hop[es] some rando will "glomp" him because they remember Dominic Deegan fondly (for some reason).
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I didn't think there was something worse than the "700 year old vampire in a teenager's body" trope when it came to creepy romance in webcomics, but reanimated feral child in a woman's body thaat is taught emotion control by the protagonist is worse. God is it worse.
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May 14, 2021 13:28
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Horrendous work. Truly the grossest week this comic's ever had.
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TheHan posted:Horrendous work. Truly the grossest week this comic's ever had. Mookie really is the anti-Midas.
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This is actually kind of scary, reminiscent of how characters in the old comic would drop all their characterization and become permanent followers of Dominic Deegan, their whole world shaped in his image. These weird stilted notes that assure us that she repents each of her sins against Snout and recognizes that she owes him everything are creepy as hell.
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Like, these notes seriously resemble the letters they force you to write to your parents at one of those horrible correctional schools, under strict supervision and threat of punishment.
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This is another minor irritation that pales in comparison to the creepy naked hugs, but I just realized another reason the notes bother me. These are all evidently scholars of some sort, and at least two are magic users whose domains are explicitly related to ink and paper (Also, Mookie continues to use the concept of "ink witch" in the most boring possible fashion.). Why then are all the pages they write so sloppy? The lines slide all over the place, instead of being crisp and straight. The lettering is all over the place rather than being clean looking calligraphy.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:
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I didn't think this could get any more wanking. Should have had more faith.
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If past experience has taught me anything, it's going to get a lot worse.
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I want to disagree and say it's already gotten worse, and this is the peak, but I already thought that about the last page. Edit: god drat it it got worse 
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May 14, 2021 19:10
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Okay no more doubts, the death of the con circuit has cost him his marbles
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And/or he is projecting a ton from his marriage under lockdown. He just wants a woman with the mind of a child to love him
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Simply amazing. "There's always more and it's always worse" fits entirely too well here, I'll certainly never bet on anything else in regards to Mookie's work again.
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I was going to post about the fact that mookie clearly misses the days where anime cosplayers thought it was ok to randomly glomp strangers at conventions and he just tweeted it out like that rude mookie
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Look man, I'm nostalgic for the mid '00 con circuit, too, I just feel like there are better ways to express this that doesn't reveal deep-seated insecurities. poo poo dude, just buy a flourecent yellow wig from eBay and give it bad Naruto spikes or something. Random thought: does slowbeef know about the existence of Legacy? I feel like I remember him posting a lot in the old thread. Edit: nevermind, searching DD on Twitter reveals Hbomb telling him about it. Fake edit: my god he's been doing this comic since 2019. That both seems too long and yet not long enough Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 21:12 on May 14, 2021 |
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May 14, 2021 21:07
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How can he top this for absolute awfulness? I'm not saying he can't, I know he can, because there is always more and it is always worse, but I'm just dumbfounded at how gross this is.
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Ehhh... I don't want to make any assumptions about his relationships or his mental state wrt to the pandemic-related isolation. While I do feel that Snout's a vessel for wish fulfillment, I'd rather not speculate on Mookie's personal life based on the comic. Admittedly I might be missing context from outside the comic. That being said, hahahaha what a way to end the week. I thought that maybe she'd keep talking and drop some lore reveal as a weekend cliffhanger, like revealing something about who she is or who the other people in the house were. Nope, she's just going to practically grind on him. It barely even furthers character development because it just repeats the same information from the last page (Corpse is grateful to Snout, Snout is happy to be praised). There are six other people in the room and they've all temporarily vanished into the void so that they don't have to be drawn reacting to this. Though if I had to guess, they're probably giving a standing ovation right now (except perhaps Bad Orc because he's bad).
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MiracleFlare posted:Ehhh... I don't want to make any assumptions about his relationships or his mental state wrt to the pandemic-related isolation. While I do feel that Snout's a vessel for wish fulfillment, I'd rather not speculate on Mookie's personal life based on the comic. Admittedly I might be missing context from outside the comic. We do know that the cabin arc where Corpsemommy was written and drawn during/right after this: https://starpowercomic.com/emergency-camping-trip/ The part about it being con wish fulfillment is speculation, but there's also a ton of blog posts he makes about sorely missing the con scene because of the praise he gets there, so it's informed speculation. There's also the Twitter responses to his comic from people really loving goodboy Snout that seem likely to be fueling many of the recent pages.
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MiracleFlare posted:Though if I had to guess, they're probably giving a standing ovation right now (except perhaps Bad Orc because he's bad). Turns into the last episode of Evangelion. Rotten Red Rod posted:There's also the Twitter responses to his comic from people really loving goodboy Snout that seem likely to be fueling many of the recent pages. You know what's sad? 'Goodboy' characters can be a lot of fun, if done well. It can be pleasant to follow a character who isn't conflicted or edgy or an rear end in a top hat. I'm not even going to say they need to be more of a character than Snout, because one of my favorite sweet idiot boy characters barely talks more than he does and is even stupider (Yuuki of Princess Connect, for the curious). But clearly that formula can be done very, very badly. Part of it might be that the comic is desperate to pretend that Snout is full of emotional intelligence and common sense, rather than just being a moron. The other is the complete void of character that is the supporting cast, since everything has to stay in Snout's perspective. oriongates fucked around with this message at 22:02 on May 14, 2021 |
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But Snout isn't just a good boy character, he's more like a fetishization of naïveté. I do not know what Princess Connect is, but I assume that the goodboy protagonist doesn't spend whole scenes agonizing over his insecurities about being too dumb and illiterate to comprehend what is going on around him. There was a point where giving insight into Snout's worries was actually effective, or as effective as Mookie ever gets in writing. When he was worrying about what it would be like to leave the Wild Edge, that felt genuine. But Mookie's fixated on that one trait and turned it into this continuous loop of Snout feeling sad and insecure, and having other characters comfort him. It actually is like the very common hurt/comfort plots in fanfiction or trashy romance novels, so is it type of emotional pornography. I don't even mean that in a negative sense, I mean that the purpose of the narrative isn't to explore a theme but is to generate a strong emotional reaction, usually coupled with sexual titillation, in the reader. And here's where I find legacy gross. Because of the sexual elements of it also fetishize naïveté. The main character, despite being naked with multiple women, is super jazzed about the act of cuddling. He is literally had as far as we can tell no contact with other " humans" ever. So he's completely tabula rasa when it comes to sexual mores and the understanding of sexuality. So, it was creepy when the ink witch, who does seem to be a functioning adult and therefore does understand what sex is, creeped up on him like a sexual predator. People commented about that directly to Mookie and he responded by veering left, and moving away from that relationship. He then introduces another female character, this time she's even more of an ingénue than Snout is. Now, I'm sure in Mookie's brain he sort of equalized the playing field so he's moved away from what people were complaining about. But instead, he somehow made the power dynamic worse when he reversed it, because now she's grateful to Snout for teaching her how to control her emotions like she's a toddler. It all seems to be pointing to this desire to create a situation where you have these characters innocently stumble into sexually charged situations. But that's gross because they're like little kids in mentality! I don't think this is really a self insertion on Mookie's part, but I don't understand how he can't see the grossness of this. It almost feels like the fetishization of innocence and purity that the grossest fanboys yammer on about. Combined with this being Mookie's point where he introduced explicit nudity in the comic, and it just reeks of a very hosed up view of sex and romance. One that I would say is actually rooted in a lot of shame, because I think that the only way Mookie feels comfortable exploring any of this is by removing the idea that these characters could desire it knowingly, because that would be sinful. Anyway, that has been my armchair psychoanalysis for today.
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oriongates posted:Turns into the last episode of Evangelion. Snoutji Ikari
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*Snout lays naked next to his grievously injured friend Ink Witch* Snout: Wow I’m not hosed up at all.
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I mean, if this does end with Snout choking ink witch while a the giant head of corpse-wife falls into a sea of blood in the background then it can only improve the story.
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I think it's that Mookie, as seen also in Star Power, has realized that Dominic Deegan style power fantasies for nerds are kind of out. Star Power was a power fantasy, but half the time Danica was experiencing emotions about how useless she was before immediately solving everything with minimal effort. Snout is that taken to an extreme: He is totally useless, but he still solves everything by being ambiently nice and good and patient. As people have pointed out, the author clearly resents expertise - it's easy to focus in on 'sure, I'm not the smartest but I'm the kindest and most loving and isn't that what's really important?' Snout is just as weird and unpleasant a locus of other characters' affection as Dominic, because that fantasy of total adoration from everyone who knows you or has heard of you - to the point of anime glomping - is so fundamental to the author's framework. But now he's focusing on the innate and naive goodness of the hero, without actually really knowing what that could look like or how that could be heroic. At least Dominic Deegan, an awful person, does 'heroic' things in the sense of fighting powerful demons and casting grand spells; Dominic is a hero purely in the cape comics sense, without really having heroic qualities. Snout, meanwhile, is the same but with the set dressing of what makes him better than everyone around him having shifted from 'intellect, because smart nerds are the best' to 'innocence and almost martyr-like patience, because soft boys are the best.' It's weird and unpleasant in the extreme.
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I don't even think the idea of a main character finding a newly created life form and trying to teach it how to live in society is that bad of an idea at face value, it's how Mookie made her a woman of color with angry outbursts and on top of that gave the situation weird sexual implications.Beelzebufo posted:It all seems to be pointing to this desire to create a situation where you have these characters innocently stumble into sexually charged situations. But that's gross because they're like little kids in mentality! This, basically, and the problem is that even if Snout has this childlike naivety, he's still an adult, so it creates this uncomfortable situation where he's kind of like a parent to corpsemom but there's also those sexually charged situations. Oh god, that's how it could get worse, isn't it, they fall in love with each other. It's a lot like how Dominic and Luna got together, with Luna having some mental issues and then Dominic solving them all for her and she's so grateful for making her a better person that she falls in love with him.
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They are absolutely going to be romantically together, I cannot imagine this story going another way at this point. It's awful.
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Joe Slowboat posted:They are absolutely going to be romantically together, I cannot imagine this story going another way at this point. To be fair Mookie is such a terrible writer that you can’t predict him necessarily. Logically you are right and that is where things are building - inasmuch as they are - but I mean consider how divorced all of this is to where the comic began? Mookie is quite probably the worst storyteller in history and also has neither knowledge of nor respect for the craft. He is predictable insofar as we know his personality and his hangups, but unpredictable in that plot lines and poo poo can and do change on a dime in accordance to his whims and his desire to avoid harsh criticism:
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Let's get away from this recent horrible nonsence, and dive into old, less horrible nonsence Two Thief or Not Two Thief? Part 4  once again breaks the eight panel format in a way that he must've thought was clever, but a guy doesn't work. Why bother breaking up the panels this way? Because he's drawn them separately, they don't really line up, and it's already broken the usual panel flow with the placement of the text so it really doesn't add anything other than make it seem as though were looking at the picture through some sort of window? Very strange.  This is supposed to be a twist, where bumper reveals accidentally that he is been in on the scheme the whole time, but just last chapter thugs they know to be associated with urban Eddie beat him in the street. Why wouldn't he know who Urban Eddie is? This is a reversal of McKee's usual problem, where characters inexplicably assume someone shouldn't know information that they obviously had access to versus characters knowing information that they shouldn't have access to.  Of course that was just a meaningless time waster, because Luna instantly goes back to trusting Bumper. Really this is just to once again play on Bumper's newfound extreme conscience, because he is the good one.  See, here's where Mookie really fails to understand characterization. So Bumper fully knows how terrible stunt is, but is still his friend. Why? What binds them together? We never get back story as to why bumper, who obviously has moral objections to pretty much everything that Stunt does, ever fell in with him in the first place. That would be compelling character drama, because we would learn to understand what were the good qualities the Bumper saw, that would let him overlook the flaws. But Mookie thinks in purely binary ways, so if bumper is the good one then stunt is the bad one in this story. But then, it just makes it seem like bumper was willingly complicit in presumably tons of nefarious acts including murders up until the point where he decided that he just didn't want to do it anymore, at which point he wants his hands of it as if the fact that he was only helping stunt leaves him blameless. It is again total unearned absolution. Also the wacky carbohydrates continues, since this now can just kidnap people in and strap bombs to them out of nowhere like Wile E. Coyote, who cares about the need to lay low or not antagonize the mages.  So how does this logic work for the protection racket, they're going to go around after inciting a terrorist incident, roughing people up so that they pay up once? Does Mookie understand how protection racket is supposed to work, does Mookie understand how any racket is supposed to work? Also, I love the quotes around law and order. Stunt literally hates the concept of law, that is why he is a thief. It's so goddamn obtuse a worldview to have in your stories. I don't even know what that flash box detonator thing is supposed to be fixing as a plot point, I guess at this point Mookie decided that they couldn't have magical timers operated by magical buttons to set off non-magical explosions? I feel like this is a response to some forum pendant pointing out that the wire going into C4 that is triggered by a button is not the same thing as the fuse that goes into dynamite.  Bumper pulls a Sheika move, while Stunt rambles. Even as a distraction, what is Stunt trying to say? Prosperous people bring crime on themselves because they make themselves attractive to criminals. It's just such a weird nonsensical take that I don't even understand why Mookie would put it in his villain's mouth. Also need to get that "whore" in.  Again this plan really makes no sense, for the reason demonstrated here which is that it assumes a distraction is over the protection racket ends. And they can't do poo poo against the wizards! Shouldn't this be the point when they were hitting the library, which was or other stated goal? I guess just Mookie forgot about that.  No ladies in distress without their boobs showing prominently! That's the Mookie guaranty! Jokey magic hyjinx, vicious dog attack. It's all the same. I don't know what that Imperius Rex thing. Imperius isn't a Latin word, it would be imperium or imperiosus, but I guess the meeting would be commanding, and Rex just means king. So Commanding King?  Pam looking like an off model evil witch panel two. So it does turn out that Urban Eddie's plan wasn't readily stupid and was easily foiled. Even Luna the sadsack failure could do it. I do like how all pretense of her magic being illusion base is gone now in favour of just what ever random spell that serves the situation. Sure is compelling when your heroes have literally infinite power, and no limitations on how to use it. I guess Bumper's sleight-of-hand is how he was able to literally slip Spark out, but it's dumb  Just spying at the exact perfect time. I love how contrived everything is in this arc. It's the only way Mookie can write without having his characters be clairvoyant.  See this is the other half of Mookie's waifu fetish for Luna. He can squeal over how cute it is that this insecure woman has found her confidence in the most childish way possible. Also there's something very anime-y about the whole situation, with the gratuitous panty shot, and the male character walking in. Thanks I hate it.  I'm not gonna comment anything on this page except for those testimony papers, which are just so sad as a visual element of the story. I mean look at them. 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Regalingualius posted:Once again going to throw out the “it becomes a sex cult with Snout as the messiah figure” theory for maximum inappropriateness points i have no doubt in my mind that Mookie was probably into the old 90s-00s harem animes (do they still do those?) so considering the rest of his 00s anime scene nostalgia it seems highly likely
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So is this Legacy's jazzhands, or will there be worse to come?
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Bismuth posted:i have no doubt in my mind that Mookie was probably into the old 90s-00s harem animes (do they still do those?) so considering the rest of his 00s anime scene nostalgia it seems highly likely The isekai has kind of absorbed the harem genre- stuff like Love Hina and Tenchi Muyo aren't shameless enough for modern audiences. Dominic Deegan was a weird western predecessor to that sort of utter pandering masturbatory wish fulfillment.
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Joe Slowboat posted:They are absolutely going to be romantically together, I cannot imagine this story going another way at this point. RoboChrist 9000 posted:To be fair Mookie is such a terrible writer that you can’t predict him necessarily. Logically you are right and that is where things are building - inasmuch as they are - but I mean consider how divorced all of this is to where the comic began?  She'll almost certainly end up romantically involved with Snout.... if mookie doesn't get distracted and make a tangent that becomes the main plot and pushes her offscreen.
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Even if there's a guy with dynamite in the center of town that doesn't mean literally every law enforcement officer will be there. There would definitely be a good amount but they're not going to empty the city of cops because of one crazy guy. That doesn't even touch how a guy with dynamite is a threat in a world where magic is common, can't a wizard just teleport the dynamite outside the city or something? Maybe the idea is this is a small enough town wizards aren't around, except this town is apparently big enough that some dude wanted to build a sportsball stadium there, there's a library that seems to be large enough that it has books that Urban Eddie thinks other wizards in other cities will want, and also Dominic is there and his mother is one of the archmages or whatever. Plus as you said "Crazy guy in the center of town to distract the authorities" pretty much would only work once even if every cop in town went there the first time, after the shopkeepers all went to them afterwards and said "While that guy was distracting you, Urban Eddie's thugs beat us up" and then the distraction plan doesn't work anymore, the cops still know who to look out for and arrest, and Urban Eddie still gets very little out of this whole thing.
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