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RightClickSaveAs posted:I wanna know who decided it would be a good idea to make an overpriced OEM farkle be such a needless pain in the rear end to install. Kawasaki should be way better than this
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RightClickSaveAs posted:This guy does a good overview of how dumb it is, I should have listened to him I honestly wouldn't even have considered it could be this bad before purchasing it, I always assumed it's like removing / installing the pillion.
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May 12, 2021 06:44
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I’ve literally never seen a bike from any manufacturer where you couldn’t just swap the pillion seat for the cowl with a turn of the key. That’s infuriating
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May 12, 2021 13:21
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They're the bloody manufacturer of both parts, how hard would it really have been to make the underside of the cowl identical to the underside of the pillion seat?  That has to be malicious, surely, nobody hosed up this hard by accident
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May 12, 2021 15:28
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Designed by a computer. That hates humans
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it's hard to put the seat back on so that advrider.txt man has an excuse not to take THE BALL N CHAIN along with him
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May 12, 2021 16:52
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RightClickSaveAs posted:I wanna know who decided it would be a good idea to make an overpriced OEM farkle be such a needless pain in the rear end to install. Kawasaki should be way better than this Yeah that's really dumb. I'm surprised because my 650's replacement cowl was a drop-in replacement and usually the 650 is the one that's horribly engineered vs the 400.
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May 12, 2021 18:29
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Like, there is no excuse. It isn't a repurposed design with inherent compromises, it's a clean slate design. There is nothing new or novel about the way the pillion seat it attached. It can only be massive incompetence, earth shattering laziness or an unbelievably stupid way of saving money because of some esoteric manufacturing reason, though I don't see how all that bullshit could possibly be cheaper. That is the kind of half-assery I'd expect to see on a triumph or Aprilia not a loving Japanese commuter.
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May 12, 2021 19:26
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Huh. Should I quit looking for used ninja 400s and shop for something else? I want a 2-4 cylinder <500cc street/sport bike, is the rest of the new ninja just gonna be hosed at this level?
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May 12, 2021 21:55
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Uuuh no because a poo poo accessory design isn't an indictment of an entire motorcycle, if we follow the logic there is basically no bike on earth worth buying. No effort in dumb bullshit areas is not the same as no effort in the parts that actually matter, or nobody would buy a Ducati ever.
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May 12, 2021 22:01
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I just discovered the Aprilia 660 bikes exist. So depressing it's a p-twin Also picked up the CBR from the garage which is now cured of its fireball tendencies.
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May 12, 2021 22:03
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Slavvy posted:Uuuh no because a poo poo accessory design isn't an indictment of an entire motorcycle, if we follow the logic there is basically no bike on earth worth buying. No effort in dumb bullshit areas is not the same as no effort in the parts that actually matter, or nobody would buy a Ducati ever. This, it's just an alternate rear seat option, there's a lot of other stuff about the 400 that's well thought out and makes sense (eg the oil drain being on the left side of the sump so that you can drain it fully on the side stand, as opposed to needing to put it on a centrestand it doesn't have)
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May 12, 2021 22:18
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Slavvy posted:Uuuh no because a poo poo accessory design isn't an indictment of an entire motorcycle, if we follow the logic there is basically no bike on earth worth buying. No effort in dumb bullshit areas is not the same as no effort in the parts that actually matter, or nobody would buy a Ducati ever. I installed a rear fender delete on a 2012 CBR250 and it was baffling how much I had to take apart and how jigsaw puzzle-like the rear cowl assembly was. It wasn't at all intuitive and I couldn't figure out why it would be done that way. It's not just Kawi.
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May 12, 2021 23:26
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Mc Escher bodywork that makes no sense, has way too many fasteners and manages to overlap itself in an ouroboros of hair pulling bullshit is a Honda trademark.
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RadioPassive posted:Huh. Should I quit looking for used ninja 400s and shop for something else? I want a 2-4 cylinder <500cc street/sport bike, is the rest of the new ninja just gonna be hosed at this level? Meh. My Kawasaki Versys-X 300 was similar when I tried to install crash bars. They called for removing all of the fairings. I was able to do it without it by pulling a little bit on the front fairing to get a thin wrench in. My MSF instructor said he has to tear apart his whole Goldwing to get at the air filter. I think it is just how it is. At some point I am going to have to acquire the service manual for my bike.
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May 13, 2021 02:49
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The amount of stupid bullshit I had to pull off my KLX230 to replace a tail light was astounding. But that says nothing of the engine, maintenance intervals, reliability, etc.
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May 13, 2021 02:54
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I replaced my exhaust headers and muffler without pulling the fairings because the instructions said I didn’t need to. It wasn’t until I pulled the fairings off a few days later that I realized how monumentally stupid a suggestion that was.
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Martytoof posted:I replaced my exhaust headers and muffler without pulling the fairings because the instructions said I didn’t need to. Lmao seriously? How the christ did you get the headers out of the bike with the fairing in the way? How did you undo the flange nuts. So many questions, no answer that isn't hilarious.
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Slavvy posted:Lmao seriously? How the christ did you get the headers out of the bike with the fairing in the way? How did you undo the flange nuts. So many questions, no answer that isn't hilarious. It was surprisingly easy to fish the actual pipes out but it’s also a ptwin so they’re really narrow and everything kind of slid out with minimal fuss. The less said about how I did the nuts the better but let me ask you this: Have you ever tried to torque something using 3ft of socket extensions? No? It may or may not have been a rhetorical question I’ll never tell.
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May 13, 2021 03:10
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Doing everything completely wrong but using a torque wrench so it's fine 
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The word fine is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, describing the things I made that poor torque wrench do.
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Why do they put an undo setting on there if you aren't meant to undo things with one anyway
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Torquing left-handed threads? (that was meant to be a silly answer please don't put me on blast)
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Phy posted:Torquing left-handed threads? Is this like a medieval punishment where you're forced to ride a Buell blast? FOR fTEALING FROM THE LORDE OF THE LAND: fEVEN DAYS DAYf ON THE BLAfT
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May 13, 2021 08:39
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Slavvy posted:Is this like a medieval punishment where you're forced to ride a Buell blast? The real origin of the magma carta.
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Magna Carta V65 Custom
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Magna Carta V65 Custom 
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Magna Carta V65 Custom New forum title? I snagged a revit quantum jacket for a good price on closeout, but finding pants to go with it has been a chore due to a lot of things being out of stock. Guess I'll have to go with a different brand and get a zipper stitched on or something.
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Slavvy posted:Is this like a medieval punishment where you're forced to ride a Buell blast? god i was hoping someone would catch that, thank you slavvy
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Renaissance Robot posted:This, it's just an alternate rear seat option, there's a lot of other stuff about the 400 that's well thought out and makes sense (eg the oil drain being on the left side of the sump so that you can drain it fully on the side stand, as opposed to needing to put it on a centrestand it doesn't have) Slavvy posted:Mc Escher bodywork that makes no sense, has way too many fasteners and manages to overlap itself in an ouroboros of hair pulling bullshit is a Honda trademark.  )
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May 13, 2021 20:40
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After having a fully faired bike for five years I'm pretty excited to try out a bike without fairings. I got better at taking them on and off but somehow whenever I was in a hurry something would pop up and make them take longer than I'd like.
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I’m pretty sure if I ever change bikes or buy my Ninja a brother, the next bike will be a Bonneville or Thruxton. The first, and still only, non-faired bike I’ve lusted after. Even then I think they look neater with the race bikini fairing so I think I’m cheating.
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May 14, 2021 01:00
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Something funny about having a generic parallel twin and lusting after an even more unremarkable parallel twin. The water cooled ones seem like a big step though, the ohlins cafe racer one is amazing as is the bobber.
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I dunno, I must be easy to please. I really like the way they look and when I sat on a Thruxton it felt amazing. Maybe I’d hate it after a test ride? In no danger of replacing my bike right now, and it’s a lot of money on an impulse buy but who knows what the future brings.
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There's nothing wrong with them, it would basically just be moving from a semi sporty Just A Bike to a semi-cruiser Just A Bike. The new ones have excellent touchy-feely quality on a par with Harley and Ducati but I have no idea if they're any more reliable than the old ones.
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It’s probably because I haven’t ridden anything else so I’m ignorant of what anything other than Just A Bike feels like, but I’m probably okay being ignorant right now. It’s bliss, I’m told  I’m researching the older Thrux 900s specifically so I guess the air cooled are what I’m aiming for but who knows 
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I think this is one of those don't meet your heroes situations, the old Bonnie is 100% a cruiser genetically even if it comes in non-cruiser forms. Jumping on one after a ninja 650, you'll feel that it's devastatingly slow, absurdly heavy, the brakes are useless and cornering sucks. This isn't because it's bad in some way, that's just how cruisers are, they are designed to a relaxed, sedate philosophy and you might like it! They have some questionable areas (ignition coils that always break, triumph electrical bullshit, lots of the small fiddly stuff sucks) but are an otherwise solid bike, and they sound really cool with pea shooters on them. I'm partial to the 'classic' style ones as they have skinny tyres, ujm posture and decent ground clearance. A very similar but more reliable and more authentically British bike (ironically) is the wr650/800.
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I keep smelling hot brake/fried clutch smells while out riding and it makes me paranoid, even when I'm doing 45 and it can't possibly be coming from my bike.
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Yeah, that happens to me too. You're just so much more connected to the smells of the world that a minivan with cooked brakes might be half a mile ahead but it smells like it's all around you. I get at least a little worried every time I smell hot brakes/clutch or a truck burning oil or a plastic bag stuck on someone's muffler or anything like that. Also I've told the story before but one time I was just riding along when suddenly I heard the most horrible rat-at-tat banging and metallic jangling sound. I immediately cut the throttle and started to pull over because I figured my entire valvetrain had just exploded or the chain had flung off and gotten wrapped around the wheel or something. Then I came past the edge of the high school I was passing and saw the marching band practicing in the parking lot with drums and xylophones
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THAT is hilarious. Seconding that this happens to me all the time. Remember the mantra "smells come from ahead of the bike".
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