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landgrabber posted:i've come close enough enough times, with enough frequency, to writing a song, or writing a good song, that i KNOW it's something that's in me somewhere. this sounds like a job for Dadaism. I’m not joking, as somebody who also suffers from mood disorder/ADHD stuff and has struggled for years with the sense of having an internal world of feelings and ideas to express and an inability to creatively synthesize it into something that met my standards—injecting things like randomness and creative limitation to my work has been hugely important in moving me forward artistically. I really do believe in the idea that you get more “honest” and revealing (and certainly interesting) stuff out of yourself when you remove the fretful forebrain element from the equation and consciously try to discard your roadmap. Working with things like sequencers, signal generators, loops, samples, etc and also limitations about gear, time, key, etc, has been hugely liberating vs a perfectly blank page. There’s a ton of different dada/surrealist/etc-inspired working techniques out there, games, organizers, etc. Most are free, some are wrapped up and commodified as books or products. I’m a big fan of Brian Eno’s “Oblique Strategies”. Take one of your “pretty good but not quite there and I have no idea how to improve it” songs and break it up into tracks or record loops from it. Then try to piece it back together from those chunks like a LEGO set. Or take the lead guitar line and make it your bass. Take one of the vocal harmonies and mangle it until it’s a pad. Or try to remake the song from scratch, but only using an iPad + acoustic guitar + hoot jug, or something like that. Take the song and try to push it as far into space as you can for an afternoon while still maintaining its identity. I know that TKOL isn’t everybody’s favorite Radiohead album, but personally I love it, and if you didn’t know- that’s essentially how the album was put together. A bunch of traditional songs and song elements were written and recorded, and then everything was broken up into pieces and put back together in a semi-improvisational manner using DJ software. I especially like listening to different live versions and iterations of the album’s tracks and comparing them to the “official” released cuts. Similarly, it was interesting to see “True Love Waits” finally get an album release on AMSP, and go from a fairly standard, if heartbreaking, guitar ballad to an ambient track built out of piano loops, and yet remain the same song.
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work with your subconscious more, it's an invaluable tool. a lot of the stuff we're telling lg has been said before, it's up to her to actually do any of it
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just keep writing. write weird stuff, write bad stuff, write good stuff. write with your subconscious, your dreams and daydreams, write randomly, play with your elbows, throw a dart at a circle of fifths, write drunk, write high, write sober, just loosen up and write anything else, forever and ever
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nishi koichi posted:hell yeah This is my favorite jazz song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlnlyXUyeFI Wait it might be Cheek to Cheek
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May 15, 2021 04:13
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Often maligned, but actually awesome especially for guitarists Bossa Nova deserves a look if you've never messed with it. Jobim wrote some of the coolest chord progressions you'll ever hear and they fit the guitar like a dream. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjaKvH-_hdk
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Stringent posted:Often maligned, but actually awesome especially for guitarists Bossa Nova deserves a look if you've never messed with it. Jobim wrote some of the coolest chord progressions you'll ever hear and they fit the guitar like a dream.  drat rightunrelated but a jam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2QKK1IZJl8 nishi koichi fucked around with this message at 04:29 on May 15, 2021 |
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Stringent posted:Often maligned, but actually awesome especially for guitarists Bossa Nova deserves a look if you've never messed with it. Jobim wrote some of the coolest chord progressions you'll ever hear and they fit the guitar like a dream. Jobim's harmonies are like nothing else. One of history's great composers for sure. i highly recommend Almir Chediak's guitar-centric songbook transcriptions of his music. Chediak went to Jobim directly to get the goods and create accurate voicings for EVERYTHING. Most of the chords are not particularly tough to grab
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May 15, 2021 05:33
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Stringent posted:Often maligned, but actually awesome especially for guitarists Bossa Nova deserves a look if you've never messed with it. Jobim wrote some of the coolest chord progressions you'll ever hear and they fit the guitar like a dream. who the gently caress maligns bossa nova? like, I can see maligning big-band revival and easy listening stuff from that era (Herb Alpert, Don Ho etc), although I’ve reached a point in my music hipsterdom where I can look at the genre as a non-fan and comment on how unfair it is to the artists to be memoryholed that way....and I can somewhat forgive people lumping all non-rock, non-pop, non-r&b music from the time period into a single catchall.... but to actively dislike bossa nova? Man gtfo of here
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i'm just an at home guitar amateur but I wanted to share a breakthrough I just had that like is going to sound super obvious to everyone else but it took ME so long to figure it out that I feel insanely stupid I've been taking classical guitar lessons for like 6 years (but I'm 35 so I don't like cram practice or anything I go at a fairly slow pace) and anyway I'm getting around now to learning tremolo so I'm doing Recuerdos, and I had been working on it for like a month not getting over a certain speed because I'd always have my ring finger or one of the others sometimes kinda "catch" on the string and gently caress up the tempo and I couldn't figure it out, I cut my nails down really short since I thought that was the problem and it still happened and then tonight I realized that I was keeping too much tension in my last joint on my finger, the one closest to my finger tips, and as soon as I concentrated on keeping that totally relaxed, I had no more problems, it seriously upped my consistent speed by like 30% and made it way easier it's one of those things where if I had been able to do guitar lessons in person this past year my teacher probably would have caught it but we were doing it over facetime so it's kinda hard, and he had mentioned to make sure your hand is totally relaxed and somehow to me that meant like, I dunno, the rest of my hand except the part that turned out to be the problem or something lol I just feel like it's insane that it got so much easier like within minutes after I noticed that, and I started just playin random chord arpeggios with tremolo for practice, on the various top 3 strings, just no problems at all compared to just yesterday going how the gently caress do people play this at tempo no one else I know irl plays guitar so this is the only place I could think of to share this where someone might appreciate it lol Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 07:24 on May 15, 2021 |
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Stefan Prodan posted:i'm just an at home guitar amateur but I wanted to share a breakthrough I just had that like is going to sound super obvious to everyone else but it took ME so long to figure it out that I feel insanely stupid grats, those are definitely the best moments
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May 15, 2021 07:37
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Stefan Prodan posted:classical guitar tension stuff hell yeah. us at home classical guitarists gotta stick together. i have those moments a LOT now that i’m incorporating alexander technique. it’s simply the best for me this usually manifests with a realization of something i’m doing like: “wait, why am i jerking my whole body to the left whenever i fret with my pinkie? that seems dumb. can i just stop doing that? okay yes that feels way better”
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Stringent posted:Often maligned, but actually awesome especially for guitarists Bossa Nova deserves a look if you've never messed with it. Jobim wrote some of the coolest chord progressions you'll ever hear and they fit the guitar like a dream. jazz samba is one of my favorite records, this is also fantastic
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May 15, 2021 14:03
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Ok Comboomer posted:who the gently caress maligns bossa nova? I wonder if the prevalence of the rock backbeat in popular music has something to do with this - any other type of rhythm is going to sound 'odd' if thats all you're hearing. Also, this is has been a persistent earworm for me for years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POXvY53pJcQ
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a.p. dent posted:hell yeah. us at home classical guitarists gotta stick together. i have those moments a LOT now that i’m incorporating alexander technique. it’s simply the best I've been having a ton of fun learning classical. I picked up a Cordoba C5 and I've been working through Parkening Vol 1 and also learning a couple of Andrew York's easy pieces, mostly concentrating on Snowflight so far. As of this morning, I can play it decently at half speed, which I'm pretty proud of. My long-term goal is to play his more famous stuff like Yamour and Home, and maybe try some composing. I've also liked some pieces by Stephen Bennett, who also sells transcriptions. Are there any other modern composers I should know of? One thing that has surprised me as a beginner is the quantity of typos in the fret numbers. Both the Parkening book and York's scores are absolutely full of typos, including really bizarre stuff like two different frets indicated in one piece for the same note, both incorrect. It's especially surprising given these are pieces for beginners. I really thought I was going crazy at first, but no, I'm not. Trying to play an A♮ on Fret 1 just isn't possible. Honestly I'd rather the fret numbers just weren't there, rather than having to go over the whole piece and correct or scratch out the typos before I can even start. Also I haven't looked at standard music notation since playing French Horn in high school which has been giving me all sorts of weird flashbacks. Stefan Prodan posted:i'm just an at home guitar amateur but I wanted to share a breakthrough I just had that like is going to sound super obvious to everyone else but it took ME so long to figure it out that I feel insanely stupid This is really cool to hear. I have also noticed my fingers sometimes get caught on the string exactly like you describe. I'll try focusing on relaxing my fingers.
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ColdPie posted:One thing that has surprised me as a beginner is the quantity of typos in the fret numbers. Both the Parkening book and York's scores are absolutely full of typos, including really bizarre stuff like two different frets indicated in one piece for the same note, both incorrect. It's especially surprising given these are pieces for beginners. I really thought I was going crazy at first, but no, I'm not. Trying to play an A♮ on Fret 1 just isn't possible. Honestly I'd rather the fret numbers just weren't there, rather than having to go over the whole piece and correct or scratch out the typos before I can even start. huh, i have that York beginner collection but haven't played most of the pieces (just Snowflight and Spider Dance). curious where you're seeing the error. very confusing when that happens if you haven't checked out leo brouwer's series of simple etudes (Estudios Sencillos) definitely pick those up. they're absolutely fascinating pieces of music. they're all excellent, i particularly like studies 1 and 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdue3k_YPXQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rD43TReEV4 for other new music, the Royal Conservatory series of classical guitar books have a lot of great stuff: https://shopus.rcmusic.com/products/preparatory-guitar-repertoire-and-etudes and https://shopus.rcmusic.com/products/guitar-repertoire-and-etudes-1 are the first two levels. has stuff by reginald smith brindle, shawn bell, julio sagreras, among others.
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Ok Comboomer posted:who the gently caress maligns bossa nova? I assume people who don't think critically about music and just associate it with a cheesy preset on the yamaha keyboard they had as a kid.
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I like hearing old recordings of The Girl From Ipanema cause I feel like the chord choices and some other stuff were weirder and had more tension before but eventually it turned into a more normal/"cheesier" version, like it got sinatrified
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mango sentinel posted:I assume people who don't think critically about music and just associate it with a cheesy preset on the yamaha keyboard they had as a kid. I grew up listening to it, and Latin American music more broadly, so a lot of those rhythmic and structure differences between “Latin” and “Anglo” music don’t really read as exotic to me. I get more homey and nostalgic vibes, if anything. Reminds me of how a childhood friend once commented on how “exotic” it felt to eat dinner at my house because he got rice and beans. My dinners came with a side of rice+beans probably 4/7 days of the week on average. It did not feel very exotic to me.
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Wowporn posted:I like hearing old recordings of The Girl From Ipanema cause I feel like the chord choices and some other stuff were weirder and had more tension before but eventually it turned into a more normal/"cheesier" version, like it got sinatrified Sinatra made a record with Jobim and it is incredible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zao0iUhejH0
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Dumb question: it's probably not worth buying a Jekyll and Hyde if I already own a Tubescreamer (Plumes) and a Suhr Riot Mini, right?
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Similar vein I keep wanting to buy a joyo baatsin for no reason. Like I have a tube screamer, but this one is a tube screamer and also 7 other things so obviously it is superior right???
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curried lamb of God posted:Dumb question: it's probably not worth buying a Jekyll and Hyde if I already own a Tubescreamer (Plumes) and a Suhr Riot Mini, right? Depends, the visual sound Route 66 V3 is only of the nicest overdrive I ever owned. It just feels very plush. The Jeckyl and Hyde V2 was also great. I'm sure the Jeckyl and Hyde V3 is also great. The riots I've tried felt more modern gain than the J&Hs thrashy Marshall thing. I mean no one 'needs' more overdrives, but then no one 'needs' most of this poo poo.
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a.p. dent posted:huh, i have that York beginner collection but haven't played most of the pieces (just Snowflight and Spider Dance). curious where you're seeing the error. very confusing when that happens Here's two examples from York. This is the first line of Alike, I count four incorrect fret numbers.  Here's the last two lines of Snowflight, I count three typos:  There's plenty more throughout the pieces, and I found the Parkening book has a similar amount of typos, so it's not just York. a.p. dent posted:if you haven't checked out leo brouwer's series of simple etudes (Estudios Sencillos) definitely pick those up. they're absolutely fascinating pieces of music. they're all excellent, i particularly like studies 1 and 5: Thanks for the suggestions, I will definitely check these out.
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ColdPie posted:Here's two examples from York. This is the first line of Alike, I count four incorrect fret numbers. I think those are finger numbers, "0" meaning open I didn't see what look like any typos to me but maybe I'm missing something Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 18:31 on May 15, 2021 |
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Stefan Prodan posted:I think those are finger numbers, "0" meaning open Yes, but C# is not on fret 1 of any string.
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^^^ He's saying that 1 would indicate you fret with your index finger, not that you put it on the 1st fret. I'm not sure how to interpret the 1 over the G in the final measure of the York piece as either a fingering or fretting, though. FWIW I'm a little over halfway through Parkening pt 1 and haven't noticed any typos. Mozi fucked around with this message at 18:39 on May 15, 2021 |
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Mozi posted:^^^ He's saying that 1 would indicate you fret with your index finger, not that you put it on the 1st fret. Hahahaha oh my god you're totally right. Aaaaaaah this makes so much more sense
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ColdPie posted:Hahahaha oh my god you're totally right. Aaaaaaah this makes so much more sense lol yeah, i was looking at this like "seems fine, you're just in 2nd position??"
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They usually don't denote frets or strings at all unless they are being played on a lower string so like on a higher fret, and in that case it will usually just have a number inside a circle with the number of the string in it I don't think I've ever seen a normal staff notation sheet music have a fret number ever
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sup fellow classical players. anyone else ITT play nylon string guitar as their main? hmm but the thing is... i dont like saying "classical guitar" or "nylon string guitar"! maybe i'll start calling it "fat neck guitar"...
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Ok Comboomer posted:who the gently caress maligns bossa nova? back when bossa nova was new, some of the Samba purists took issue with it. idk who else has a problem with it though 
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Helianthus Annuus posted:back when bossa nova was new, some of the Samba purists took issue with it. https://youtu.be/-f96W5ta2r0
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Helianthus Annuus posted:sup fellow classical players. anyone else ITT play nylon string guitar as their main? i started in 2016-2017 and have slowly transitioned to playing only nylon string. i just love the sound. it took me probably 4 years to consistently get a good tone with fingers+nails technique but now i never want to go back and yeah...i waffle between 'classical guitar' and 'nylon string'. needs a better name
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i think we have lots of stuff to learn and discuss with our friends on uke. i've got a capo on the 5th, and im trying to follow along with Jake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_at_nglL3M
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXUCJKto68Q now its Taimane on uke  check out her right hand technique! and huge coke nails!oh, and dance fans: this video has something special just for you!
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Helianthus Annuus posted:i think we have lots of stuff to learn and discuss with our friends on uke. i've got a capo on the 5th, and im trying to follow along with Jake I was listening to an old Chapo ep, and Felix went on an extended riff about /r/smalldickproblems and /r/bigdickproblems, and about how all they do is have AMAs where they go back and forth between each other’s groups and try to discuss who has it worse, anyway this is a neat video
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Taimane and Jake were both my inspiration to get a uke in the first place. They know what they're doing alright. My 2-year old also loves dancing to Taimane videos while playing her little toy ukulele so maybe I'll be able to teach her when she's a bit older.
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bees everywhere posted:Taimane and Jake were both my inspiration to get a uke in the first place. They know what they're doing alright. My 2-year old also loves dancing to Taimane videos while playing her little toy ukulele so maybe I'll be able to teach her when she's a bit older. Taimane started at 5 years old, and Josh Meader (the guy playing the Cory Henry solo upthread) says he started at 7 years old. Jake S started uke at 4.
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Helianthus Annuus posted:Taimane started at 5 years old, and Josh Meader (the guy playing the Cory Henry solo upthread) says he started at 7 years old. Jake S started uke at 4. Yeah, the tough part is they have to really want to play it because their short attention span doesn't give you a lot of time, and forcing it on them is just a stupid idea. But it's good motivation to learn more myself so I can teach them later if they're interested. I started at 22 but I don't consider it much of a hindrance, if I wanted to be as good as Taimane then I'd have to practice as much as she has practiced, which is harder as an adult but doable.
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