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Stringent posted:me and my wife read them and frequently can't understand the questions so i'm pretty sure a lot of them are poorly written it's definitely this in general, publishing content for children is considered the toilet of the industry
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I've been reading "Why Don't Students Like School?" and it's super interesting, strongly recommend it for it's applicability even outside of education. It was recommended to me by an educator I really respect, I think it has been a lot more influential in the UK than elsewhere. Extremely clearly written and well argued, it goes against the grain for some modern trends in education discourse. For example, he argues that knowledge of facts (word meanings, events, processes, rules. e.g. the background to the Boston Tea Party) are essential for learning skills (say critical thinking about a source text discussing the tea party). Having a level of background knowledge lets think more broadly and imaginatively about the events, rather than having to repeatedly refer to a reference. (I think I got this summary right). I think some of the later sections are more controversial but I haven't finished it yet. Thinking back to my own time in school, the techniques he describes are definitely what some of the better teachers did.
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May 12, 2021 10:09
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one thing I’ve noticed is that there are some people who have channels and can explain or walk you through a topic and give you some intuition of the topic. I think if for example calculus was introduced to students by making them watch the 3blue1brown videos on calculus, the difference would be night and day.
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May 12, 2021 12:07
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lol. i never learned calculus
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May 12, 2021 12:08
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heh. yeah, I’ve got a bachelors of science degree.  .... what is a “derivative”? 
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May 12, 2021 12:10
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calculus ruined me I kicked rear end at maths, never studied, got good grades. if I had studied or had tutoring I would have done so ellis but when we started calculus, it was like we weren’t taught the start of it. there was no context. it was literally just: apply these rules to these equations and solve the problems
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May 12, 2021 12:21
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bobbilljim posted:i forgot what cardinality means. i have an engineering degree oh my god same
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May 12, 2021 12:24
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bobbilljim posted:i forgot what cardinality means. i have an engineering degree
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May 12, 2021 12:27
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the worst for me was statistics and anything involving Taylor series. I wasn't the only one either, I remember sitting in engineering maths lectures and the Prof would go "so how do we solve this? It must be a series expansion" and this big groan would go up. i guess I have at least 10 years until mini two hander is gonna start doing calculus so by then I'll be totally brain dead I'm sure. Then again neither of my parents were any use with it either.
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May 12, 2021 12:29
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President Beep posted:what is a “derivative”? you’re posts!
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May 12, 2021 12:47
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lament.cfg posted:you’re posts! oh! oh...
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May 12, 2021 13:03
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when i was a kid i wondered about how much piss was left behind in the toilet after every flush and realized that it was intractable with the baby math i knew. I wondered about it for a long time and then eventually i got to diffEq and realized that the pissmath was actually very high level and complicated
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May 12, 2021 14:23
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you should have asked your professor about your pee pee
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May 13, 2021 01:17
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echinopsis posted:calculus ruined me High school calc was poo poo for me too. Found it so hard year 12 /13 after not having to work in maths before. As soon as we started doing it at uni it was 10x easier. I suppose that could be because a good amount of it was retreading what we had done in high school though. I still hit my maths limit hard though thankfully I went into software and had to do a lot less math than say, a civil engineering student
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May 13, 2021 03:05
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:oh my god same It's the study of cardinals you dumb shits Humanities, cardinalities, sciencies, excetera
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May 13, 2021 03:07
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bobbilljim posted:High school calc was poo poo for me too. Found it so hard year 12 /13 after not having to work in maths before. As soon as we started doing it at uni it was 10x easier. I suppose that could be because a good amount of it was retreading what we had done in high school though. I live a life of regret that I didn’t do engineering tbf I didn’t even know what engineering was when I was that age . I was in the top class all thru school until last few years and then I went to polytechnic and spent a few months how to be a welder gently caress I wish I had someone watching out for me going “hey this kid is smart how about we encourage him to study at school or go to university or.. “ instead they were like like “if he wants to fry his brain with welding smoke he should”
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May 13, 2021 03:23
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bobbilljim posted:High school calc was poo poo for me too. I have advised both my kids to take stats in high school instead. If they need to take calc they can do it in college as God intended.
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May 13, 2021 06:42
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weird, opposite for me. hs calc was great and I loved it. stats was mind numbing. then electrical engineering calc was hell world. triple integrals? laplace transforms?? discrete cosine transforms??? happily i now touch computers/networks and never have to think about maths ever again
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May 13, 2021 10:52
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echinopsis posted:I live a life of regret that I didn’t do engineering I will never regret studying engineering but I will tell any child (mine or otherwise) that actually studying engineering is nothing like what you think engineering will be and they literally lure you in with "look at this cool stuff we do!" and then lol pranked it's actually 4 years of "maths with better examples" I remember my younger sister had a friend that wanted to study mecheng at iirc Cambridge (which had a famously brutally hard course) and asked me about it as I was at one of the top "not Cambridge or Oxford" uni's and I said "whatever you do, do not study engineering there, you will hate it because this poo poo is bad enough as it is and they are way more intense on maths maths maths" and she ignored me and dropped out after the first year as she was sick of 24/5 maths with nothing else and no free time. At least I got to spend a minimum of 4/7 days drunk.
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May 13, 2021 10:57
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:At least I got to spend a minimum of 4/7 days drunk. this is liek the universal constant of studying engineering
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May 13, 2021 11:10
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I will never regret studying engineering but I will tell any child (mine or otherwise) that actually studying engineering is nothing like what you think engineering will be and they literally lure you in with "look at this cool stuff we do!" and then lol pranked it's actually 4 years of "maths with better examples"
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May 13, 2021 11:10
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Corla Plankun posted:when i was a kid i wondered about how much piss was left behind in the toilet after every flush and realized that it was intractable with the baby math i knew. I wondered about it for a long time and then eventually i got to diffEq and realized that the pissmath was actually very high level and complicated
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May 13, 2021 12:09
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I will never regret studying engineering but I will tell any child (mine or otherwise) that actually studying engineering is nothing like what you think engineering will be and they literally lure you in with "look at this cool stuff we do!" and then lol pranked it's actually 4 years of "maths with better examples" I don't doubt any of this and I know jobs aren't like they seem. but I like science and maths and getting paid well. oh and solving puzzles. my job is often not puzzle solving but instead just executing best practices. lame
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May 13, 2021 12:31
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echinopsis posted:I don't doubt any of this and I know jobs aren't like they seem. you would really fit in as a software developer. it's not too late  fake edit thought u would be on decent money though so might be a downgrade for a while until you got experience
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May 13, 2021 13:29
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I am on decent money but the industry I am in is imploding and there are various reasons I hate my job specifically and line of work in general.
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May 13, 2021 13:49
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echinopsis posted:calculus ruined me same, I was doing grade 12 match in grade 9 but I wasn't actually smart just 3 years a head for a while, once I got to calculus and matrix algebra I was no longer ahead if I had learned matix math by writing a 3d engine or something I would have understood better, a teacher writing ith row and jth column 100 times on chalkboard never gave context
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May 13, 2021 16:45
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rotor posted:I have advised both my kids to take stats in high school instead. If they need to take calc they can do it in college as God intended. my high school calc teacher was so much better than any of my college math instructors no idea how universal that experience is
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May 13, 2021 16:53
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i'm planning on speeding my kid though math as fast a humanly possible so they can learn as much as they can in the 2-12yo super elastic brain period where anything can be learned because i believe math literacy and critical thinking are the only skills that are important enough to worry about retaining from k-12
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May 13, 2021 19:09
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hobbesmaster posted:my high school calc teacher was so much better than any of my college math instructors yeah like i mean as always it's the teacher that makes the difference, but all things being equal i'd tell em to take stats
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May 13, 2021 19:10
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Corla Plankun posted:i'm planning on speeding my kid though math as fast a humanly possible so they can learn as much as they can in the 2-12yo super elastic brain period where anything can be learned because i believe math literacy and critical thinking are the only skills that are important enough to worry about retaining from k-12 what about how to read
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May 13, 2021 19:16
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i assume she's going to learn reading at home but i guess if we dont get around to it yeah sure, that too
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May 13, 2021 19:21
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echinopsis posted:I don't doubt any of this and I know jobs aren't like they seem. I get you on this completely and honestly that's why I went from initially "yeah I guess I might as well get a job touching computers" to "I am actually good at touching computers and want to touch them more" because of the puzzle solving type aspect. I think I even said something like that in my first computer touching interview. The problem is the other 75% of the job that's boring bullshit so looks like I was pranked again.
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May 13, 2021 22:43
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So uh. We had an oops. The oops had a heartbeat this morning. I guess this is happening? I don't really want to say anything to anyone irl because it's so early. But I also have a lot of emotions and poo poo flowing through me where I just want to word vomit in an appropriate thread on this dead gay comedy forum. What the gently caress man. I did not see this coming. I know it's gonna be fine, we're ready(?) for this, but what the gently caress.
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May 15, 2021 19:47
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My wife signed up for a wine club as a pandemic treat and they literally just delivered a case of wine a week ago, lmao
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May 15, 2021 19:51
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shoeberto posted:So uh. it’s all very exciting. congratulations!
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May 15, 2021 19:59
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shoeberto posted:My wife signed up for a wine club as a pandemic treat and they literally just delivered a case of wine a week ago, lmao more wine for you imo
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May 15, 2021 20:51
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oops, all creampies
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May 15, 2021 21:03
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rotor posted:more wine for you imo hell yes it is
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May 15, 2021 21:15
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shoeberto posted:So uh. hell yeah, dude. my wife is just shy of 9 weeks, we’re also in that “too early to tell everyone” phase. first ultrasound this week, it’s crazy. 
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congrats yosposters, kids are cool and good and lil babbys are so cute 
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