[COVIDelta-19] Remember To Mask Up Between Bites

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The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

Pingui posted:

The article matter is whatever, but CNN's choice of quote is not exactly inspiring confidence in Walensky:

It's working/stop testing/openerup

Also in that BBC article

quote:

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has told The Andrew Marr Show that five people have been hospitalised in Bolton with the Indian variant of Covid-19, despite having had their first vaccine dose.

He added that a "frail" person who had received both jabs had also been hospitalised with new coronavirus variant.

I get that nothing is 100% but this insane new CDC guidance is explicitly based on the fictitious notion that vaccinated people are invincible to covid and that's how they're billing it: vaccinated = safe. Not safer. Not mostly safe. Not a single word about the durability of vaccine immunity or VoCs that escape immunity. Just vaccinated = safe. Going to be a pretty big shock to folks when meemaw ends up on a vent I think.

# ? May 17, 2021 00:07

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 16:51

Koirhor: Jan 14, 2008; by Fluffdaddy

Pingui posted:

The article matter is whatever, but CNN's choice of quote is not exactly inspiring confidence in Walensky:

lol what

# ? May 17, 2021 00:09

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Koirhor posted:

lol what

Someone posted the video earlier in all its glory, here it is timestamped to the quote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP1vYnExV4g&t=407s

# ? May 17, 2021 00:13

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/16/ignore-lockdown-easing-to-curb-indian-covid-variant-health-experts-urge posted:

Ignore lockdown easing to curb Indian Covid variant, health experts urge
Leading specialists call on the public to avoid socialising indoors to prevent a third wave of the disease
(..)
The British Medical Association, however, also recommended that people keep meeting outside for the time being because the of threat posed by the new variant.

�We are urging the public, and young people in particular, to take a cautious approach to social and physical contact, to continue practising �hands, face, space� and to meet outdoors wherever possible,� said Dr Richard Jarvis, the co-chair of the BMA�s public health committee.

�People must look at their own personal risk and adjust their activities accordingly. We are asking people to take a cautious approach as we enter the next stage of lockdown.�
(..)

# ? May 17, 2021 00:16

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

Cup Runneth Over posted:

huh, I didn't know that the proportions of ethnicities in the US had changed that rapidly in two years. that makes things less disproportionate, but White people still didn't die disproportionately

white: 60.4% of deaths vs 60.1% of the population (brings me joy to know that the demon cracker is losing its grip on this nation)
hispanic: 18% of deaths vs 18.5% of the population
black: 14.8% of deaths vs 12.5% of the population
asian: 3.6% of deaths vs 5.9% of the population
native: 1.1% of deaths vs 0.7% of the population
(source for proportions)

So I would say that the only people COVID disproportionately killed were Black people. A few tenths of a percentage is not disproportionate; arguably that's within margin of error. Therefore, Kushner achieved his goal with flying colors.

I haven't had time to dig into this data since January, but the racial disparity is much worse than this analysis makes it looks. Black and Hispanic people have much shorter life expectancies in the US compared to white people, so the fraction of Black elders who died of covid is several times higher than the fraction of white elders who died of covid. At least, that was the case in January, I need to go reassess the data to see if it's changed.

# ? May 17, 2021 00:26

Nocturtle: Mar 17, 2007

Could the SARS-COV-2 mRNA proofreading mechanism be an evolutionary response to the hostile environment for viral replication created in bat cells via APOBEC3 and other measures? Wild to think. Also suggests it's less necessary to keep around for infecting humans, would advise an ambitious pandemic virus to ditch it.

# ? May 17, 2021 00:27

Pingui: Jun 4, 2006; WTF?

Cup Runneth Over posted:

huh, I didn't know that the proportions of ethnicities in the US had changed that rapidly in two years. that makes things less disproportionate, but White people still didn't die disproportionately

white: 60.4% of deaths vs 60.1% of the population (brings me joy to know that the demon cracker is losing its grip on this nation)
hispanic: 18% of deaths vs 18.5% of the population
black: 14.8% of deaths vs 12.5% of the population
asian: 3.6% of deaths vs 5.9% of the population
native: 1.1% of deaths vs 0.7% of the population
(source for proportions)

So I would say that the only people COVID disproportionately killed were Black people. A few tenths of a percentage is not disproportionate; arguably that's within margin of error. Therefore, Kushner achieved his goal with flying colors.

Seems bad, but

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/553790-fauci-coronavirus-pandemic-showed-undeniable-effects-of-racism posted:

Fauci: Coronavirus pandemic showed 'undeniable effects of racism in our society'
(..)
�Now, very few of these comorbidities [with COVID-19] have racial determinants. Almost all relate to the social determinants of health dating back to disadvantageous conditions that some people of color find themselves in from birth regarding the availability of an adequate diet, access to health care and the undeniable effects of racism in our society," he said.

"Let us promise ourselves our memory of this tragic reality � that an infectious disease disparately kills people of color � does not fade," Fauci continued. "Righting this wrong will take a decades-long commitment. I urge you to be part of that commitment."
(..)

nothing to do about it now. Never forget this thing that definitely only happened in the past though!

# ? May 17, 2021 00:32

Koirhor: Jan 14, 2008; by Fluffdaddy

is co2 concentration beginning to affect human cognition? I�m struggling for an explanation why everything is so loving stupid all the time.

# ? May 17, 2021 00:43

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

LMAOing that Biden has done precisely what he promised he would do:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1341493715811127298

Trump was right about what the liberals thought of masks after election day

# ? May 17, 2021 00:46

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

Happy Thread posted:

LMAOing that Biden has done precisely what he promised he would do:

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1341493715811127298

Trump was right about what the liberals thought of masks after election day

They think people are virtue signaling with masks now because that's what they thought masks were when they wore them.

# ? May 17, 2021 00:58

silicone thrills: Jan 9, 2008; I paint things

Holy fuckin poo poo why the actual gently caress would anyone be working IN a call center right now. Its the most bog standard easy loving job to make full remote.

https://komonews.com/news/local/call-center-in-vancouver-shuttered-due-to-covid-19-outbreak

quote:

VANCOUVER, Wash. (AP) � Public health authorities say a broadband call center in Vancouver, Washington has been temporarily closed because of a COVID-19 outbreak that has resulted in 29 confirmed and two possible cases.

The Columbian reports Public Health spokeswoman Marissa Armstrong said in an email late Friday the first case at the Spectrum Communications office was reported in mid-April, with the most recent case reported Friday.

Armstrong said the business closed Wednesday, will undergo a deep cleaning and will consult with Labor & Industries before reopening. The business had not issued a public statement in connection with the outbreak by late Friday.

# ? May 17, 2021 00:58

a helpful bear: Aug 18, 2004; Slippery Tilde

How will supervisors dictate bathroom breaks and performance remotely??

# ? May 17, 2021 01:02

Horseshoe theory: Mar 7, 2005

a helpful bear posted:

How will supervisors dictate bathroom breaks and performance remotely??

"Battle Royale"-style exploding collars? :thunk:

# ? May 17, 2021 01:03

Notorious R.I.M.: Jan 27, 2004; up to my ass in alligators

Nocturtle posted:

Could the SARS-COV-2 mRNA proofreading mechanism be an evolutionary response to the hostile environment for viral replication created in bat cells via APOBEC3 and other measures? Wild to think. Also suggests it's less necessary to keep around for infecting humans, would advise an ambitious pandemic virus to ditch it.

I think it's just because of the size of the genome. May also be related to the fact that some parts of the genome are extremely well conserved and may require significant stability to work (such as the fusion domain on the Spike protein, some parts of ORF1a).

# ? May 17, 2021 01:04

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Pingui posted:

The article matter is whatever, but CNN's choice of quote is not exactly inspiring confidence in Walensky:

[COVID-19 Thread] you didn't require death

# ? May 17, 2021 01:04

Steve Yun: Aug 7, 2003; I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.; Soiled Meat

okay so

my birthday is going to be in my Muslim friend�s back yard.

I�m making Jell-O shot syringes in different flavors named after vaccines. I want her to be able to enjoy some so I will make two non-alcoholic flavors and label them AstraZeneca and Sputnik, because they don�t do anything

# ? May 17, 2021 01:05

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

silicone thrills posted:

Holy fuckin poo poo why the actual gently caress would anyone be working IN a call center right now. Its the most bog standard easy loving job to make full remote.

https://komonews.com/news/local/call-center-in-vancouver-shuttered-due-to-covid-19-outbreak

I've mentioned this before but here in the Philippines the call center lobby was powerful enough to get themselves exempted from lockdown protocols even in April of 2020 when it was the highest/tightest possible restrictions - like, public transportation was shut down to people either had to walk/bike to the office, or the call centers would organize their own shuttle-bus programs to bring people to the office.

And it's STILL a primary vector for infections up to today.

For some reason call centers and their clients loving love to force people to work in-person.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:07

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

Steve Yun posted:

okay so

my birthday is going to be in my Muslim friend�s back yard.

I�m making Jell-O shot syringes in different flavors named after vaccines. I want her to be able to enjoy some so I will make two non-alcoholic flavors and label them AstraZeneca and Sputnik, because they don�t do anything

lmao but I'd recommend calling them like "homeopathy" or whatever

# ? May 17, 2021 01:10

net work error: Feb 26, 2011

Chamale posted:

lmao but I'd recommend calling them like "homeopathy" or whatever

Bleach or Hydroxycloroquine or some other Trump era covid things

# ? May 17, 2021 01:14

mycomancy: Oct 16, 2016

gradenko_2000 posted:

Hell yes they are, gently caress every brain-addled ape on this stupid planet! How can you live through the last 15 months and not wind up a howling maniacal misanthrope?!

# ? May 17, 2021 01:15

mycomancy: Oct 16, 2016

I seriously want to punch whomever originally posted that text right in their god damned mouth.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:15

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud: Apr 7, 2003

Pingui posted:

The article matter is whatever, but CNN's choice of quote is not exactly inspiring confidence in Walensky:

So vaccinated individuals can still carry and pass the disease around, it just doesn't affect them in most cases. Now to take a big sip of water and see what percentage of America is vaccinated,

# ? May 17, 2021 01:17

goth smoking cloves: Feb 28, 2011

Therapy is 2 for 1 at applebees

# ? May 17, 2021 01:22

post COVID: Mar 5, 2007; free college, free healthcare, free Shmurda

gradenko_2000 posted:

this is what i say when my date wants to use a condom

# ? May 17, 2021 01:23

silicone thrills: Jan 9, 2008; I paint things

Slippery Nipple posted:

this is what i say when my date wants to use a condom

Yeah but your dick is toxic

# ? May 17, 2021 01:23

meanolmrcloud: Apr 5, 2004; rock out with your stock out

Koirhor posted:

is co2 concentration beginning to affect human cognition? I’m struggling for an explanation why everything is so loving stupid all the time.

it�s the internet, it makes you stupid.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:24

Sudden Loud Noise: Feb 18, 2007

Koirhor posted:

is co2 concentration beginning to affect human cognition? I�m struggling for an explanation why everything is so loving stupid all the time.

It's my fault. Sorry, but I gotta keep posting.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:25

Bar Ran Dun: Jan 22, 2006

mycomancy posted:

I seriously want to punch whomever originally posted that text right in their god damned mouth.

apparently like 2/3 of the anti vax stuff is generated from about a dozen people.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:32

jemand: Sep 19, 2018

silicone thrills posted:

Holy fuckin poo poo why the actual gently caress would anyone be working IN a call center right now. Its the most bog standard easy loving job to make full remote.

https://komonews.com/news/local/call-center-in-vancouver-shuttered-due-to-covid-19-outbreak

In cases where call center employees handle billing and payment info, especially taking people's bank account and routing info, companies don't want even the appearance of opportunity for making unknown copies of that info. They're legally on the hook for the privacy and security of that info, and they think it's easier to ensure this from a central, monitored location.

Of course, they should be more legally liable for deaths than hacked accounts, it's just the accounts belong to globally rich people and the deaths are through layers of contractor agencies and are globally poor.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:33

Horseshoe theory: Mar 7, 2005

Bar Ran Dun posted:

apparently like 2/3 of the anti vax stuff is generated from about a dozen people.

Hi, I'm Bill Maher.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:33

FUCK COREY PERRY: Apr 19, 2008

Zil posted:

In awe of that gunt

# ? May 17, 2021 01:41

FUCK COREY PERRY: Apr 19, 2008

SKULL.GIF posted:

# ? May 17, 2021 01:45

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Bar Ran Dun posted:

apparently like 2/3 of the anti vax stuff is generated from about a dozen people.

quote:

In 2008, as a senator and presidential candidate, Obama discussed the possible link between vaccines and autism.

�We�ve seen just a skyrocketing autism rate,� Obama said in April 2008 at a rally in Pennsylvania. �Some people are suspicious that it�s connected to the vaccines. This person included.�

Obama continued, �The science is right now inconclusive, but we have to research it.�

# ? May 17, 2021 01:48

Strep Vote: May 5, 2004; أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Thoguh posted:

They think people are virtue signaling with masks now because that's what they thought masks were when they wore them.

My brain is bending and I can't quite comprehend this.

etalian posted:

[COVID-19 Thread] you didn't require death

# ? May 17, 2021 01:50

FistEnergy: Nov 3, 2000; DAY CREW: WORKING HARD; Fun Shoe

pretty cool how national/state/local governments are completely ignoring the risk to kids under 12 who have no way of vaccinating and can't be expected to assess risky behaviors or protect themselves through vigilance. At least 90% of the people I know are just going with the flow, too

:sludgepal:

# ? May 17, 2021 01:51

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Strep Vote posted:

My brain is bending and I can't quite comprehend this.

liberals only ever wore masks as a signifier that they were good little boys (and girls) following the rules and not out of any particular understanding of the disease, and now that the CDC has given people carte blanche to go mask-less, liberals think that people who are STILL wearing masks are being as fake about it as they were.

It's projection

# ? May 17, 2021 01:54

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

FistEnergy posted:

pretty cool how national/state/local governments are completely ignoring the risk to kids under 12 who have no way of vaccinating and can't be expected to assess risky behaviors or protect themselves through vigilance. At least 90% of the people I know are just going with the flow, too

I laughed how multiple Florida school districts got rid of the mask mandate the second the CDC released the new and improved guidance .

# ? May 17, 2021 01:55

Stickman: Feb 1, 2004

Thoguh posted:

They died with COVID, not of COVID.

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1393919639449649154?s=19

This sort of poo poo is why the CDC really needs to get over their stupid loving aversion to anything that might be considered "analysis". Just make a goddamn definition of "death caused by COVID" and use that instead of confusing everyone by using "death with COVID" so you don't need to make case-by-case determinations. It's not easier to interpret or more straightforward, it's just pretend rear end-covering.

# ? May 17, 2021 01:56

silicone thrills: Jan 9, 2008; I paint things

Wow this guy should clearly get therapy

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/covid-children-masks-kleinman/index.html

quote:

For the sake of children, keep wearing your mask

-snip-

We began this pandemic with the erroneous conclusion, until things began to change in April, that children were spared the ravages of Covid-19. But over the course of the crisis we have come to understand that children infrequently get very sick and rarely die. As shown in a study published in the medical journal JAMA Pediatrics in May 2020, while children with at least one identifiable pre-existing condition (including being obese) make up a majority of Covid-19 patients in US and Canadian pediatric ICUs, about 17% of these children had no pre-existing conditions.

Moreover, research published in June 2020 in The New England Journal of Medicine describes the link between Covid-19 and Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C) as an uncommon but severe and potentially fatal condition that can cause the heart and other organs to fail. MIS-C typically comes from out of the blue, several weeks after an initial Covid-19 infection, which may have presented without any symptoms and thus may have gone undetected. While researchers are working on it, right now we do not know what puts a child at increased risk.

The American Academy of Pediatrics reports that, as of May 6, more than 3.85 million children in the US have tested positive for Covid-19 -- more than 72,000 new cases that week. These numbers are lower bounds as many children with Covid-19 are never tested. Even if only one half of 1% of these children develop a serious illness, that would be 360 children harmed in a single week. The impact of children on the pandemic and the pandemic on children should not be ignored.

There are simply too many unknowns, including the longer-term impact of the virus on children, to risk contagion. Children are on a journey towards their developing maturity. Their experiences before the pandemic influence their health and well-being today, and their experiences today impact their future. We know that, as for adults, Covid-19 can affect children's brains; we do not yet know the long-term implications on their brains or on the development of younger children or adolescents. Neither do we know what physical consequences may lie ahead following infection. Even young patients, for example, may discover a lack of stamina or concentration even after they have seemingly recovered from Covid-19. Researchers are working to learn the range and frequency of long-term affects.

# ? May 17, 2021 02:00

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 16:51

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Thailand-Vietnam-and-Cambodia-hit-COVID-variants-with-iron-fist

quote:

BANGKOK/HANOI -- Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia -- all early COVID success stories -- are now using an iron fist on their residents in bids to halt the spread of more virulent variants.

Thailand on May 1 issued a nationwide mask mandate and banned dining in restaurants in Bangkok and elsewhere. The first local transmissions of the U.K. variant were confirmed in early April.

By late that month, the country had counted about 65,000 total COVID-19 cases, more than twice the number reported a month earlier.

Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha then decided to assume ministerial powers granted by 31 laws, including the Communicable Disease Act. Prayuth said his intention was to consolidate necessary authority to contain the virus's spread, promote vaccinations and improve efficiency.

Other powers Prayuth assumed come from laws on security, cybercrime and other matters. Prayuth is the former army chief who staged Thailand's most recent coup, in May 2014, and who has held on to power with a new constitution that guarantees the military nearly all of the senate's 250 seats.

Now the opposition is accusing Prayuth of establishing a dictatorship in the name of combating COVID-19.

In Vietnam, after confirming local transmissions of the Indian variant, the government on Wednesday decided to extend the mandatory quarantine period to 21 days from 14 for anyone arriving in the country. Deputy Prime Minister Vu Duc Dam, meanwhile, has urged citizens living overseas not to return, fearing they might carry variants with them.

The first local transmissions in more than a month were detected on April 29. After one case was identified, Hanoi, the capital, ordered that karaoke parlors and bars be closed, big events canceled and that masks be worn in public places. Violators are subject to penalties.

Why are countries that had successfully halted the virus's spread now being inundated with new cases? Migrants who freely but illegally go back and forth across borders are receiving much of the blame.

The Vietnamese government said that about 85% of COVID-19 patients who had entered from Cambodia tested positive for the U.K. variant.

Malaysia on Monday announced a fresh nationwide lockdown based on several factors, including the existence of new variants. The lockdown is to last until June 7 but is subject to an extension.

In Cambodia, the capital Phnom Penh and nearby Takmao on April 15 ordered citywide lockdowns. The measures came about two months after viral clusters hit Phnom Penh, then spread across the nation.

Before late February, the country counted only 500 cumulative cases. By late April, however, that number had topped 10,000.

It is believed that Chinese workers who had disregarded quarantine orders and left their designated facilities triggered the spread.

Now Cambodia's government is deporting foreigners who violate quarantines and is not allowing them to reenter.

The government is also penalizing Cambodians who violate stay-at-home orders. In addition, it has ordered more than 200 garment factories -- the country's key employer -- to temporarily halt production.

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