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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:congratulations? it's also a great design, which is the actual parameter under discussion, but dont let me stop you from being weird and gross When KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD says you're weird and gross, buddy, you had better pay attention.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:congratulations? it's also a great design, which is the actual parameter under discussion, but dont let me stop you from being weird and gross Is there something wrong with you?
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Strongly considering a Niro EV to replace my issue-laden daily commuter. Needs to run 30 miles a day every day, I have a garage for home charging. meanolmrcloud posted:Seconding this. We test drove the phev today and it seemed like a solid car. My only concern is that it’s not very roomy for a car seat + kid stuff.  That box is 22.5" long / 14.5" high / 16" wide. The hatch closes fine but that's the biggest thing that can fit that direction. I have to put a seat down to fit the clubs, they don't fit well sideways. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 03:53 on May 17, 2021 |
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priznat posted:What the actual hell lol, I just thought their poo poo was busted. There is one that is in the parking lot at work a lot I will give it a closer look next time I see it. The CHSL is on the spoiler, and along with them not being super suited to snowy locations, I don't think the location of the CHSL when the spoiler was down was acceptable per regulations
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knox_harrington posted:If you remove your bazinga glasses for a minute you'll see it's pretty much the definition of a boring family car. KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:congratulations? it's also a great design, which is the actual parameter under discussion, but dont let me stop you from being weird and gross Lets take about 15-20% off there you two, mmmkay? Thanks.
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knox_harrington posted:Gorgeous? It still looks like a mondeo. An adjustable spoiler is hardly a new invention. I like the color, not necessarily the silhouette. Tesla does a beautiful red, so does Ford - my brother had a red mustang and I loved how it popped. My Volt is red, so arguably, I just like red cars. And nowhere did I mention it was new, afaik Audi and Porsche have done them for a long time. They're just cool.
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CannonFodder posted:Here's a visual for how much can fit in the back of a Niro EV: We're at this really exciting (for me, anyway) time when there are options for just normal-looking cars that are EVs. If this had existed 6 years ago, we absolutely would have bought it instead of the Model S as the follow-on to our Subaru Outback. It took us a while to get comfortable with how showy the Tesla felt: it made us uncomfortable when people noticed it, which was really not our thing. I imagine there are lots of folks like this, but who aren't comfortable making the leap into a car with so many YouTube videos of it with drag racing times. Very cool. Do you love this car, CannonFodder?
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cruft posted:We're at this really exciting (for me, anyway) time when there are options for just normal-looking cars that are EVs. If this had existed 6 years ago, we absolutely would have bought it instead of the Model S as the follow-on to our Subaru Outback. It took us a while to get comfortable with how showy the Tesla felt: it made us uncomfortable when people noticed it, which was really not our thing. I imagine there are lots of folks like this, but who aren't comfortable making the leap into a car with so many YouTube videos of it with drag racing times. I feel this so much. If the CCS network were as dependable as the supercharging network I'd have a much more boring car. that X windshield though...
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CannonFodder posted:Here's a visual for how much can fit in the back of a Niro EV: This is awesome. Thanks so much. We are going to check out another few compact suvs, but the ev aspect of the Niro is pretty appealing to us. We plan on having at least one more kid, so probably having another larger vehicle is in the picture at some point in the future, and the ev options might be better at that point, plus we might be able to better afford a nicer one.
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cruft posted:We're at this really exciting (for me, anyway) time when there are options for just normal-looking cars that are EVs. If this had existed 6 years ago, we absolutely would have bought it instead of the Model S as the follow-on to our Subaru Outback. It took us a while to get comfortable with how showy the Tesla felt: it made us uncomfortable when people noticed it, which was really not our thing. I imagine there are lots of folks like this, but who aren't comfortable making the leap into a car with so many YouTube videos of it with drag racing times. And I hear you about being noticed in a Tesla. My cousin has a Model 3 and a Leaf and has had bro-trucks roll coal on him in the Tesla but never in the Leaf. I love this car. Over 36k miles in less than 2 years with zero faults and I'm gonna drive this fucker into the ground. After this week and the lake trip where I will use the inflatable float and the golf clubs I'm going to get it detailed. meanolmrcloud posted:This is awesome. Thanks so much. We are going to check out another few compact suvs, but the ev aspect of the Niro is pretty appealing to us. We plan on having at least one more kid, so probably having another larger vehicle is in the picture at some point in the future, and the ev options might be better at that point, plus we might be able to better afford a nicer one. RZA Encryption posted:I feel this so much. If the CCS network were as dependable as the supercharging network I'd have a much more boring car. that X windshield though... CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 01:53 on May 17, 2021 |
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There's some sort of EV only racing going on in Japan, looks like the top finishers are all Model 3s, a Taycan gets 6th. There's also a Nissan Leaf shown a couple times displaying a "holy poo poo it's going to tip over" amount of body roll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKAAkNsEHW0
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borkencode posted:There's some sort of EV only racing going on in Japan, looks like the top finishers are all Model 3s, a Taycan gets 6th. There's also a Nissan Leaf shown a couple times displaying a "holy poo poo it's going to tip over" amount of body roll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKAAkNsEHW0 That is literally better racing in that vid than the entire existance of Formula-E and I want to see more. Holy poo poo the dive bomb one of the Tesla drivers did was absolutly epic....!
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borkencode posted:There's some sort of EV only racing going on in Japan, looks like the top finishers are all Model 3s, a Taycan gets 6th. There's also a Nissan Leaf shown a couple times displaying a "holy poo poo it's going to tip over" amount of body roll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKAAkNsEHW0 I see an e-power Note there too which looks even more awkward than the Leaf.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:that's a fusion and it looks great ??? The Fusion is called Mondeo outside NA.
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Nice comparison between the e-tron GT and the Taycan 4S https://youtu.be/EI3fQsfDgPw
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The Slack Lagoon posted:Anyone have good resources about living with an ev with a cold climate season? Warm the car up before you unplug. Use the seat heaters and turn the cabin temp down. Wear your coat. Do not - and I can't emphasize this enough - use an oxyacetylene torch to remove ice from the windshield wipers.
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cruft posted:Do not - and I can't emphasize this enough - use an oxyacetylene torch to remove ice from the windshield wipers. That seems awfully specific  What happened?
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The Slack Lagoon posted:Anyone have good resources about living with an ev with a cold climate season? There are plenty of people in this situation in this thread. If you have specific questions about that, just ask them. I lived with a 24kWh Leaf in Norway for four years without home charging, and now have a model 3 LR.
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Always always always warm the car up while it’s still plugged in. Expect a lot less range. Anecdotally I would say I get about 30% less range when it’s cold and windy out. If your charging location is also cold that will affect the charging rate as well since the car will spend a lot of time warming the battery.
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Wibla posted:That seems awfully specific It just seems like a bad idea.
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Get a car with a heat pump if possible. Use heated seats and wheel over whacking up the cabin heating. Bear in mind you won't have excess heat produced by the engine so if you don't clear snow off the car before driving it will just stick around. I use a cover. 
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The Slack Lagoon posted:Anyone have good resources about living with an ev with a cold climate season? Do you have a garage? I’m in Southeast Alaska and, for us, we have to keep a dehumidifier in the garage with the car. All the snow it tracks in caused mold issues without one; our old ICE truck would heat up the undercarriage enough to cook off the moisture but the Leaf does not. It’s a very small price to pay. Beyond that it’s great. I go around stuck 4x4s every year on the way to the ski lifts; snow tires + FWD > ‘all season’ tires + 4WD.
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drat, has anyone been following on China getting tired of Tesla's bullshit? https://twitter.com/DKurac/status/1394248161279954945
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The Slack Lagoon posted:Anyone have good resources about living with an ev with a cold climate season? Keep it plugged in when not using it. Use automatic climate scheduling for your commute if its predictable. If you have a long freeway commute, be prepared for winter range loss of 25-40% so buy enough battery that you don't have to worry about it. Leaving in a warm car really helps so again precondition/preheat the cabin while plugged in before you leave. Rinse the salt/dirt off once a week like any other car. Get a set of winter tires. That's about it.
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Thanks for this. We have a garage but it's unpowered, and I'm not sure how easy it would be to add power. I'll definitely have to do some more planning before we buy our next vehicle. Between WFH and public transit we don't have a car commute, and our use case is either a short drive to the grocery store or a long drive to visit family or go for a hike do PHEV might be the most we could pull off for now. As far as conditioning the battery in winter, how much energy does that take? Based on some research I've done it seems like the cost/mile between gas/electric is in the electric's favor - does that change in winter due to the increased energy consumption conditioning the battery?
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The extra energy used for preconditioning or preheating the cabin is negligible, I think I spent an extra $30 in the winter total. The cabin heats up very fast, like below zero to toasty hot in under 5 minutes. If you aren't doing long highway commutes then you don't really need to worry about costs of operating in the winter and they would still be better than an ICE anyway. Adding power to the garage is something you want to do though, get a dryer plug installed there. Check if you have any government incentives to help out with the cost. It is worth doing, charging at home is key to cost savings and convenience with EVs.
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The Gunslinger posted:charging at home is key to cost savings and convenience with EVs. This, right here, is the #1 pro EV tip.
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borkencode posted:There's some sort of EV only racing going on in Japan, looks like the top finishers are all Model 3s, a Taycan gets 6th. There's also a Nissan Leaf shown a couple times displaying a "holy poo poo it's going to tip over" amount of body roll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKAAkNsEHW0 apparently the taycan's battery cooling lasts just about long enough to do a lap of the nurburgring.
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borkencode posted:There's some sort of EV only racing going on in Japan, looks like the top finishers are all Model 3s, a Taycan gets 6th. There's also a Nissan Leaf shown a couple times displaying a "holy poo poo it's going to tip over" amount of body roll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKAAkNsEHW0 I'm getting some serious Herbie the Love Bug vibes off that Leaf. Totally rooting for it.
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Qwijib0 posted:apparently the taycan's battery cooling lasts just about long enough to do a lap of the nurburgring. I'm pretty disappointed with Porsche on this. Beaten by all the Teslas that cost a quarter of the price. I'd like to see how long the Mach-E GT & EV6 GT can manage on the track. Edit: Where's the I-Pace love in Japan? I bet those do well on the track since they had a racing series. Nfcknblvbl fucked around with this message at 20:16 on May 17, 2021 |
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borkencode posted:There's some sort of EV only racing going on in Japan, looks like the top finishers are all Model 3s, a Taycan gets 6th. There's also a Nissan Leaf shown a couple times displaying a "holy poo poo it's going to tip over" amount of body roll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKAAkNsEHW0 Further proof that Advan wheels and the associated livery looks amazing on everything. It's also encouraging to see Unplugged Performance having such a world wide representation.
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knox_harrington posted:Gorgeous? It still looks like a mondeo. An adjustable spoiler is hardly a new invention. Indeed. 1966. https://www.reddit.com/r/carporn/comments/6cu0if/1966_chaparral_2e_revolutionary_for_being_the/  The integrated spoiler-wing was designed to lie flat for low drag on the straights and tip-up under braking through the corners. The car's clutchless, semi-automatic transmission kept the driver's left foot free to operate the wing mechanism.
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Qwijib0 posted:apparently the taycan's battery cooling lasts just about long enough to do a lap of the nurburgring. In the Taycan's defense, it is built to compete with the Model S which would have overheated even faster in those exact conditions and done significantly worse.
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Fame Douglas posted:Is there really an audience of people that care about race track performance? …It’s a Porsche. That’s literally the reason you buy a Porsche.
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Unlike GM, which decided to build an absolute pig of an EV. https://www.gm-trucks.com/2022-gmc-...Oj_7E4kzH78pRVI Edit: Just over 9000lbs. Insert DBZ meme here.
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McTinkerson posted:Unlike GM, which decided to build an absolute pig of an EV. HOLY poo poo Think of all the poor Ford Pintos.
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MrYenko posted:…It’s a Porsche. That’s literally the reason you buy a Porsche. You buy a Porsche to show off and have a nice car. There's no way even 1% of Porsche owners use it on a race track. I don't think that's the reason people buy a Porsche at all.
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The Gunslinger posted:charging at home is key to cost savings and convenience with EVs. Even 120v is fine in the Leaf. That's all I've had and been through 7 years of the brutal North Dakota winters with it. The 24KWh is enough to handle 30 miles in those conditions. I wouldn't advise an EV without at home charging though.
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