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Larry Parrish posted:Shut up loser. Lol. Did you get flashbacks of the inside of the locker? Or perhaps the toilet bowl in the locker room. I'm getting flashbacks to the post you quoted
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xtal posted:I'm getting flashbacks to the post you quoted POST YOUR PODCASTS OR GTFO YOU STUPID PIECE OF poo poo
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Halloween Jack posted:xtal, all you do is troll the thread, and everyone takes the bait every single time! I guess you must be a masochist who just loves getting owned, huh? drat ive been epicly trolled by xtal. i thought he was a whiny bitch but it turns out it was i who was in fact the fool. i will never live down my shame
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May 17, 2021 15:36
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crepeface posted:I've been listening to a lot of ALAB recently, and it's really hitting right. the way they puncture the illusions of the fairness of legal systems by going through it in precise detail is really great. ALAB's interesting to me because it's kinda coming from people with expertise in something other than media stuff, makes it more entertaining for me than, say, Chapo's twitter beefs. Nothing wrong with the media on media stuff, but it's not my first choice for listening to a podcast.
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Regarding Time for my Stories, I personally don’t get the purpose of listening to a recap of something I haven’t seen in the first place. it’s analysis for people who’ve watched it rather than a real review for people who haven’t to decide if they will or not, so I’ve only listened to Sopranos, the wire and “gambo” (lol). I’m not expecting anything earth shattering from it and I haven’t been disappointed, it’s more I just like hearing the chapos talk because I agree with 98% of the sentiment 98% of the time
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May 17, 2021 16:28
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the wire does kinda suck in retrospect and I’m glad people recognize it
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:Regarding Time for my Stories, I personally don’t get the purpose of listening to a recap of something I haven’t seen in the first place. it’s analysis for people who’ve watched it rather than a real review for people who haven’t to decide if they will or not, so I’ve only listened to Sopranos, the wire and “gambo” (lol). I’m not expecting anything earth shattering from it and I haven’t been disappointed, it’s more I just like hearing the chapos talk because I agree with 98% of the sentiment 98% of the time I got a good chuckle out of Felix calling people who liked seasons he didn't contrarians in the wire episode.
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May 17, 2021 16:32
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:the wire does kinda suck in retrospect and I’m glad people recognize it the wire is the tv show equivalent of a white liberal with an avatar of a black person who repackages timid liberalism as black political consensus.
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May 17, 2021 16:43
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the guy who wrote it literally said he had an n-word pass or did my brain make that up
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May 17, 2021 16:56
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grieving for Gandalf posted:the guy who wrote it literally said he had an n-word pass or did my brain make that up I get the feeling you could squeeze two thousand words out of David Simon on the subject
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grieving for Gandalf posted:the guy who wrote it literally said he had an n-word pass or did my brain make that up No, he did and he didn't even delete the tweet https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/778039688879808512
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May 17, 2021 17:07
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The Wire was never good, honestly
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joepinetree posted:No, he did and he didn't even delete the tweet David Simon is one of the more cringe people to ever live.
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May 17, 2021 17:31
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Simon definitely has some stupid politics, but The Wire is still an all time great. Theres very little on TV that came after it that comes close.
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I hope the folks who've spent the past 20 years pretending to have watched The Wire get a chance to update their opinions along with everyone else. poor saps just bumbling into a conversation with the usual "oh yeah, best show ever made. that one character is so great" and getting run out of town 
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The Wire holds up in the sense that it's got an extremely good and huge ensemble cast that pretty much all give outstanding performances, and it did some neat things with TV narrative filmmaking. A lot of the writing is pretty cringe in retrospect though, and it is EXTREME copaganda, and even at the time I remember feeling like the cop parts were way less interesting than the parts that were just straight up crime drama about competing gangs.
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how does whoever that twitter person is spilling the beans on epstein or whatever have any bearing on trueanon, they’ve been covering stuff peripheral to the whole affair for as long as the case has been without momentum. I’m not sure if the implication is they’re party to suppression of truth? or that they just stand to lose money a la homer giving away the flaming moes recipe. in any case seems very well adjusted and I wonder what name they post under here
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:how does whoever that twitter person is spilling the beans on epstein or whatever have any bearing on trueanon, they’ve been covering stuff peripheral to the whole affair for as long as the case has been without momentum. I’m not sure if the implication is they’re party to suppression of truth? or that they just stand to lose money a la homer giving away the flaming moes recipe. in any case seems very well adjusted and I wonder what name they post under here they're really crazy, OP
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they're a tech reporter, op
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Often Abbreviated posted:I hope the folks who've spent the past 20 years pretending to have watched The Wire get a chance to update their opinions along with everyone else. poor saps just bumbling into a conversation with the usual "oh yeah, best show ever made. that one character is so great" and getting run out of town I've been ahead of the curve. Was yelled by either dnd or tviv years ago when i said the wire wasn't actually realistic, just felt so for aligning with the preconception of its audience
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May 17, 2021 19:32
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there are some extremely bad moments in the wire where it seemed the consensus was “actually this is good tv” - the scene where they just say “gently caress” over and over again was really dumb or where they’re staring off into space talking about bringing in brother mouzone (another character that is in fact lame and not cool) then there’s procedurally dumb stuff that is just not even remembered, like getting the hooker to spy for them, bubbles killing that guy, whatever that dumb crap with the camera and the pigeons was about, aiden gillens entire non presence as a total non entity despite all the build up. no cop would ever be okay with hamsterdam even conceptually. the human traffickers are treated like they’re just smugglers of human corpses, as if the smuggling is the big deal and not the fact these are slaves killed in transit despite establishing the time of death as a crucial part of defining the jurisdiction to handle the case. bad, bad show
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May 17, 2021 19:40
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that one weird cop with the haircut. what was up with that guy??
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there's a lot of cringy lib poo poo on the wire, but worst for me when the stupidest cop on the force gets a Teach for America job and then succeeds because he does the one weird trick from a 90s movie where he gets black kids to pay attention in school by making the lessons about drug deals it's a shame because that season spends a good amount of time showing the reality of kids living in poverty how it's impossible for them to do well in school under those conditions and then he throws that away for some charter school propaganda BS Joementum has issued a correction as of 19:50 on May 17, 2021 |
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Joementum posted:there's a lot of cringy lib poo poo on the wire, but worst for me when the stupidest cop on the force gets a Teach for America job and then succeeds because he does the one weird trick from a 90s movie where he gets black kids to pay attention in school by making the lessons about drug deals Prezbylewski's entire character arc is definitely one of the things that has held up the worst, which is funny because it's the part everyone was going nuts over back then
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Did Simon ever address the reason for Brother Mouzone, or how dressing like Elijah Muhammad might be a liability for a mob enforcer?
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Halloween Jack posted:Did Simon ever address the reason for Brother Mouzone, or how dressing like Elijah Muhammad might be a liability for a mob enforcer? Mouzone and Omar are both cartoon characters and honestly The Tales of Omar Little is one of the more distracting parts of the show(though the individual scenes can be hilarious). The show's even worse when they try to take Omar seriously.
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the show takes place in the early 90s when NOI still had a bit of actual political juice and it makes sense for them to show up in some form, but of course simon's take on them is that they're both clowns and thugs at the same time.
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rip bodie idc i like the wire growing up in the inner city of north omaha poo poo was rough. Edit: I haven't seen much shining light on living in the poor inner city even from the so called "left" Popy has issued a correction as of 20:27 on May 17, 2021 |
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Carcetti is the perfect representation of a Democrat and the whole Baltimore democrat party sucks compete poo poo so if The Wire is pro Democrat then i didnt notice it
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The thing about the education plot is that it's all Ed burns self insert, since in real life he's a cop turned teacher. That he is portrayed sympathetically after blinding a teenager and killing a black cop (with the added gratuitous scene where the blinded kid is shown as in the game) is bad enough. But even they knew that having prez go on about corner kids being too savage for education would be too racist do they had to remake the wise old black cop into an education specialist who monologues at academics and teachers. Like, you would think that even liberals would object to two white writers creating wise old black characters to launder their rants (the other being gus in s5). Popy posted:Carcetti is the perfect representation of a Democrat and the whole Baltimore democrat party sucks compete poo poo so if The Wire is pro Democrat then i didnt notice it It's not "pro democrat" because it's Baltimore so everyone is a democrat, but it is 100% liberal talking points and a liberal outlook on solutions. Carcetti is portrayed as a unsympathetic careerist, but he is never shown as out and out corrupt, but rather is frequently stymied by characters who are out and out corrupt. Cops are mostly portrayed in a sympathetic light hampered by unsympathetic higher ups. More fundamentally, the wire's entire political premise is that the issue of poverty, the war on drugs, the decline of newspapers, the cycle of poverty, etc. are not at all about material conditions. They are about failing institutions, and if only you fixed the failing institutions... Education is solved by a teacher who cares. Schools are portrayed as not actually underfunded, but just controlled by teachers who don't even care that they have a basement full of computers. Material conditions are never portrayed as the reason for the drug trade. Rather, again and again it is shown that drug trade gains go strictly to ostentation 100% "culture of poverty" poo poo. The one kid out of season 4 that "makes it" is one that is shown from the start as being a matter of having the right role models, rather than material conditions (Namond was already the most comfortable of the bunch, it was just a matter of getting his out of his mom's house and into Colvin's). Marlo is like the definition of the "super predator" idea. And just in case Prez's "just need teachers who care" shtick didn't convince you, you have Cutty's boxing gym. Problem with newspapers is not one of material needs. In fact, the show goes out of its way to show that the newspaper was profitable even before the cuts. Problem with the drug trade isn't one of poverty and material privations. No, in fact we have the top 2 drug dealers explicitly reject material wealth because they cared more about their names. Hell, all the drug dealers arrested have excellent representation throughout. The kids who go into the drug trade are shown as being motivated not by money, but by role models. There is a whole plot of bunk lecturing Omar about the role model he is. Oh, and just to make things even neater, Omar is shown as the samurai with a code, when real life Omar was much more of a mixed bag (as opposed to "i never put my gun on civilians" wire version). The only people who are shown acting in accordance to any material conditions in the entire show are the union folks in season 2. joepinetree has issued a correction as of 22:03 on May 17, 2021 |
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Carcetti is a not-at-all-veiled reference to Martin O'Malley, the guy who decided he should run against Hillary Clinton in 2016 as the white guy with a ton of corruption in his background and no policy differences from Hillary. (And whose campaign was run by frequent Chapo topic Lis Smith who went on to run Agent Pete's campaign.)
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joepinetree posted:Like, you would think that even liberals would object to two white writers creating wise old black characters to launder their rants
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:there are some extremely bad moments in the wire where it seemed the consensus was “actually this is good tv” - the scene where they just say “gently caress” over and over again was really dumb or where they’re staring off into space talking about bringing in brother mouzone (another character that is in fact lame and not cool) the only realistic cops on the show were collichio and the black cop that beats the kids martin o' malley, better known as "unidentified man"
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and also that petty polack captain/major/whatever who fucks with sobotka because of a church window
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Halloween Jack posted:Have you ever seen a white liberal's Twitter account Oh, I know. I referenced earlier how the Wire is the tv equivalent of the while liberal with a black avatar. This was more of a comment on how blatant it was, rather than the substance.
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