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MotU posted:Aw shucks the 60 year old man is just too naive to know what he's doin' He has mush brain
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Quantum of Phallus posted:He has mush brain The inevtiable fate of all who work in the wrestling busness regardless if they've ever stepped in the ring. It's tragic you hate to see it.
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May 16, 2021 19:33
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he has boomer reporter brain and fortunately it's terminal
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everyones walking back this weekend smdh
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Incessant Excess posted:everyones walking back this weekend smdh Can’t believe he blindsided Dave like this
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Incessant Excess posted:everyones walking back this weekend smdh i didn't know they were reviewing Main Event now
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Incessant Excess posted:everyones walking back this weekend smdh https://twitter.com/dustinrhodes/status/1394007414052098060?s=20
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Lamuella posted:Da muddaship? It was 6:05 somewhere
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Dustin rules.
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YOU WIN THE HOUUUUUSSSSSSSSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://twitter.com/BTSheetsPod/status/1394147424365654021
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great episode, Bix. The wrestling-themed Jake story... Lmao
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there's a 20 minute mailbag section at the end of today's WOR. Blessed
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I love the mailbag section, it’s like, don’t you dudes have Google???
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I love the mailbag section, it’s like, don’t you dudes have Google??? how else are we going to get minute by minute updates on *shuffles notes* parker boudreaux
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I love the mailbag section, it’s like, don’t you dudes have Google??? I asked a question about Don Leo Jonathan once, if you think I'm gonna put a google alert on something like that instead of just making dave tell me you're crazy
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Low Desert Punk posted:how else are we going to get minute by minute updates on *shuffles notes* parker boudreaux thats the next Brock Lesnar!
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Bryan on Filthy Four taking 5 years to figure out the reason why he suddenly got more easily tired and in worse shape the moment he hit 40 was loving incredible, he couldn't believe people were right that you hit a wall and that it hit him so suddenly and half a decade later he realized wait, turning 40 coincided with having a daughter and never getting any sleep ever.... 
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Colt Cabana's doing a new podcast where people call in and leave anonymous questions about wrestling.
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Low Desert Punk posted:a few days late but Lance's story about New Jack getting a cut of Tracy Smothers' confederate flag money is loving hilarious
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davidbix posted:I need all of the details about this but I assume it's simply that Tracy was selling signed flags/flag-themed gimmicks and he was working with The Gangstas at the time, so he did the time honored tradition of splitting some of your gimmick money with the heel you're programmed with? Jack would disrespect the flag in promos (spit on flag, talk about how it's the racist flag, rip it up, etc.), Tracy was a proudly Southern wrestler who sold confederate flags. Tracy gave Jack flags for free because it riled up the audience to buy their own flags. Eventually this lead to such better Tracy merch sales he gave Jack a cut.
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It would appear that Amanda Huber possibly didn't take Dave and/or Bruce's apology well: https://instagram.com/stories/mandahuber/2576700122201391198?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=share_sheet collocation fucked around with this message at 03:20 on May 19, 2021 |
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Listening to B&V&C's review of the Shawn documentary, all I can think of is Bryan's comment on how back in the day the world champion WAS the promotion while nowadays Vince wants The Brand to be the promotion. It felt like Bryan was criticizing Vince for this and who wouldn't criticize Vince for modern WWE. But it made me think how sensible that approach is in theory. Anything based around a single individual is doomed to fail. This is brought up all the time in government 1011. Say you have the nicest, smartest dictator whoever lived, they will die eventually and then you're hosed. Say you have the best world champ of all time - Shawn and Austin both had to retire very early and they both nearly died, too. So building a fed around one person seems as much a houes of cards as building a country around that dictator. People should come for the brand, not just a transient champion.
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Ideally it's symbiotic. A good champ raises the profile of the promotion, which makes it easier for them to create more stars, who will raise the profile of the promotion.
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I have no idea how anyone could watch the last few years of wwe and think building it around the brand is good.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Or they could just build up strong contenders and make them champ after their current one runs the course… You're both right, but let's not forget how Vince wants people to stay in his bubble to wring the last drop out of them, making them too hot can lead to bigger success than he can contain. *edit* And of course Bryan says that right after. Arbite fucked around with this message at 10:09 on May 19, 2021 |
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I have no idea how anyone could watch the last few years of wwe and think building it around the brand is good. I get around this by not watching WWE and watching good promotions with strong identities AND star competitors instead.
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NikkolasKing posted:Listening to B&V&C's review of the Shawn documentary, all I can think of is Bryan's comment on how back in the day the world champion WAS the promotion while nowadays Vince wants The Brand to be the promotion. It felt like Bryan was criticizing Vince for this and who wouldn't criticize Vince for modern WWE. I feel like it started because Vince got so paranoid that they were going to accidentally make a new star that would leave the company that chased off most fans as they fumbled CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Moxly and most recently Kofi and Becky Lynch because Roman must win at all costs. The booking's been bad for much longer than that, it was WWE's active disgust at what people wanted vs what Vince wanted that's turned people off. They're reverting back to the New Generation era where WWE is making wrestling very unfun/uncool to watch for the mainstream.
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Putting aside current (fairly unique!) COVID-19 issues, New Japan is a great example of a promotion that builds stars but is also able to replace or lose them and keep on going well because they have a great baseline of quality and an investment in continually building other stars who can slot in. They lost Prince Devitt, AJ Styles, Karl Anderson, Kenny Omega (considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time), Shinsuke Nakamura (at the time considered basically one of the greatest and most charismatic wrestlers in the world) etc and the promotion just keeps on producing more and more stars, even with Tanahashi and Okada taking less prominent roles, Ibushi only being a comparatively recent full-time signing, etc. They have people in place who can step in or step up, the likes of Ospreay, Switchblade, Takagi, Taichi, ZSJ etc and the matches keep being great, plus they have probably the best/highest potential rookies in the world.
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Jerusalem posted:Putting aside current (fairly unique!) COVID-19 issues, New Japan is a great example of a promotion that builds stars but is also able to replace or lose them and keep on going well because they have a great baseline of quality and an investment in continually building other stars who can slot in. I can't recall how many times I've thought that "The indies are dead now" and they just keep rebuilding from scratch and have me excited again. The WWE could have Tanahashi and Okada at their primes at Summerslam this year and I'd forget that match happened a couple months later because of how poorly run the main roster is, and NXT is sinking down to that level too despite having legitimately some of my favorite wrestlers of all time currently on the roster.
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Giving a title prestige is some of the best baked-in storytelling you can get. X has something, Y needs it. You want your champions to be Apollo Creed, not someone who lost 4 days ago and got a pie in the face.
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Jerusalem posted:Putting aside current (fairly unique!) COVID-19 issues, New Japan is a great example of a promotion that builds stars but is also able to replace or lose them and keep on going well because they have a great baseline of quality and an investment in continually building other stars who can slot in. The sheer potential that New Japan have even just in their current young lions is incredible. Uemura and Tsuji are stars in waiting.
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People buy tickets and watch the TV shows to see characters and stars they like. The boom periods in wrestling have been driven by big stars, the fallow periods are when there is a lack of star power (for whatever reason be it bad luck or design).
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Yeah for my money the most invested I am in wrestling is when the talent are people I want to be, want to be friends with, or want to fight. WWE hasn't supplied that to me in a long long time. It's a lot of people that are just there.
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