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Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



gently caress you

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Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


https://twitter.com/linaposting/status/1394648636496113669?s=20

lmao this is some real DIY poo poo that's warranting leveling entire buildings for????????

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014


She's such a destable person

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/linaposting/status/1394648636496113669?s=20

lmao this is some real DIY poo poo that's warranting leveling entire buildings for????????

The IDF gets anime style nose bleeds from being able to get away disproportionate response like levelling a whole apartment high rise with a 500lb bomb.

GIRL BRAINS
Sep 5, 2011

The gods are small birds

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/linaposting/status/1394648636496113669?s=20

lmao this is some real DIY poo poo that's warranting leveling entire buildings for????????

Shooting bottle rockets from a modified swing set? Better blow up a hospital with bunker buster to level the playing field

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/linaposting/status/1394648636496113669?s=20

lmao this is some real DIY poo poo that's warranting leveling entire buildings for????????

they are leveling the buildings so they can kill everyone in gaza and start colonizing it again

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/linaposting/status/1394648636496113669?s=20

lmao this is some real DIY poo poo that's warranting leveling entire buildings for????????

and the rocket itself is something you could make in an afternoon with a decent hackerspace. none of it requires major infrastructure, because that's what resistance armaments have been withered down to. the only real limitation is supply of a few components, but its not like theyre forging metal tubing into existence in apartments and hospitals and kindergartens and news offices

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://twitter.com/alqadipal/status/1395008638482268167?s=21

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

https://twitter.com/KetracelBlack/status/1395020272483409925?s=20

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
Looks like we're finally starting to wind down.
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1395018417468477440?s=19

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Lol

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



so they’re going to escalate poo poo

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014



When that video of the fat obviously American expat saying if he didn't steal a Palestinian woman's home someone else would made the rounds it brought to mind when Michael Oren threw a fit and ragequit an interview with Isaac Chotiner when Chotiner pointed out how ridiculous it was to claim he had a right to the land when he was from New York.

Mischievous Mink
May 29, 2012

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

so they’re going to escalate poo poo

They're going to de escalate more buildings into rubble in Gaza, like they've been doing.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Breakfast All Day posted:

and the rocket itself is something you could make in an afternoon with a decent hackerspace. none of it requires major infrastructure, because that's what resistance armaments have been withered down to. the only real limitation is supply of a few components, but its not like theyre forging metal tubing into existence in apartments and hospitals and kindergartens and news offices

Every society experiencing mass scale bombardment from the air has moved its manufacturing capacity underground. The Nazis did it, the North Koreans did it, the Vietnamese did it. It's without a doubt that Hamas's manufacturing capacity is all in the "terror tunnels," but that just makes every street and alleyway a valid military target as far as the IDF is concerned.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




they way they collapsed all the streets in town over the last week is such bullshit

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Remember when Kamala made a big show of joining the bandwagon of skipping AIPAC then invited the top dogs to her office knowing that wouldn't get any press?

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


wow gently caress this guy so much, just psycho poo poo smiling while handing a gun to the killers of your family

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1394717086543486979?s=21

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

wow gently caress this guy so much, just psycho poo poo smiling while handing a gun to the killers of your family

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1394717086543486979?s=21

is he taunting her wtf :psyduck:

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




tfw the idf twitter account memes over killing a congresswomans grandma

MLSM
Apr 3, 2021

by Azathoth

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

wow gently caress this guy so much, just psycho poo poo smiling while handing a gun to the killers of your family

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1394717086543486979?s=21

Pretty funny how erdogen is the only world leader with balls calling this piece poo poo and Israel out for ethnically cleansing palesitinians

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

wow gently caress this guy so much, just psycho poo poo smiling while handing a gun to the killers of your family

https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1394717086543486979?s=21

tbf ford electric vehicle center is a pretty prime choice venue for that kind of doublethink

Tom Guycot
Oct 15, 2008

Chief of Governors


One thing I haven't really understood about Gaza is whats the sort of end game exactly? Like I understand the point of leveling all infrastructure, letting nothing in so stuff can be rebuilt, making like hellish for everyone there, etc, but isn't the point of doing that to try and get the people to leave so you can take the land? Yet, israel also isn't letting them leave, and working with egypt, isn't letting them leave that way either?

Its easy to be glib and say "the point is to exterminate them" or whatever, but birthrates exceed deaths still, and ultimately the point is to have them gone so they can take it, but that has to necessitate either letting them leave and go be refugees in egypt or elsewhere, or straight up exceeding births with deaths. Yet they do neither?


Do they actually not want the land that much and a boogyman is more useful? Is it just no one HAS a real plan so they're just punting with periodic bombs?


I don't understand trying to force them out but not letting them out.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Tom Guycot posted:

One thing I haven't really understood about Gaza is whats the sort of end game exactly?

you gotta keep the 'other' weak and miserable while still maintaining them as a huge threat for fascism to work properly

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

the displacement is in the west bank. keeping gaza around is because the conflict is a useful pawn both for domestic politics, regional power, and necessary for the continued ascendancy of fascism. its a forever genocide akin to our forever wars (although unlike the latter is one that could very easily come to completion if a trump-like ideology-golem emerged)

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Tom Guycot posted:

One thing I haven't really understood about Gaza is whats the sort of end game exactly?

Israel has written off Gaza as part of a strategy of accelerating settlement in the West Bank. The long run game is making the land so toxic that nobody can live there, so Gazans will have to move into Egypt and Israel can move in to turn it into an industrial park.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Israel has written off Gaza as part of a strategy of accelerating settlement in the West Bank. The long run game is making the land so toxic that nobody can live there, so Gazans will have to move into Egypt and Israel can move in to turn it into an industrial park.

So instead of just letting them move out gradually, they're trying to force the situation to be bad enough then offer them the exit valve so everyone leaves completely with no desire to come back?

Electro-Boogie Jack
Nov 22, 2006
bagger mcguirk sent me.

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

https://twitter.com/linaposting/status/1394648636496113669?s=20

lmao this is some real DIY poo poo that's warranting leveling entire buildings for????????

oh poo poo, palestinians got some ladders

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

SKULL.GIF posted:

So instead of just letting them move out gradually, they're trying to force the situation to be bad enough then offer them the exit valve so everyone leaves completely with no desire to come back?

In theory, sure. Egypt doesn't want to be taking in refugees any more than anybody else though, so it could be even messier than that.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown

Electro-Boogie Jack posted:

oh poo poo, palestinians got some ladders

Hamas asked the idf to play chutes and ladders but the idf misheard

Top Gun Reference
Oct 9, 2012
Pillbug

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Tom Guycot posted:

One thing I haven't really understood about Gaza is whats the sort of end game exactly? Like I understand the point of leveling all infrastructure, letting nothing in so stuff can be rebuilt, making like hellish for everyone there, etc, but isn't the point of doing that to try and get the people to leave so you can take the land? Yet, israel also isn't letting them leave, and working with egypt, isn't letting them leave that way either?

Its easy to be glib and say "the point is to exterminate them" or whatever, but birthrates exceed deaths still, and ultimately the point is to have them gone so they can take it, but that has to necessitate either letting them leave and go be refugees in egypt or elsewhere, or straight up exceeding births with deaths. Yet they do neither?


Do they actually not want the land that much and a boogyman is more useful? Is it just no one HAS a real plan so they're just punting with periodic bombs?


I don't understand trying to force them out but not letting them out.

The endgame is to be able to "mow the lawn" every couple of years that just happen to coincide with Israeli elections in which Bibi isn't polling well or otherwise has political problems. Bibi doesn't give a flying gently caress what happens once he dies.

This opens the door to a bunch of different scenario's depending on who follows Bibi:
1. Israeli's come to their senses and realize they have been the baddies all along and elect someone who considers Palestinians people. The boot is lifted off the neck and some kind of solution can be reached. This is what everyone should hope for but also not the world we're living in.
2. The next Israeli leader follows in Bibi's footsteps and continues to use Gaza as a way to score cheap political points at home and shore up their approval polls whenever necessary. Optionally they can use this approval to commit all the crimes and corruption they want. Both the Israeli electorate and the international community (read: the USA) continue to tolerate this. This means this can keeps getting kicked down the road, and the current situation, in effect, is the endgame.
3. The next Israeli leader wants to colonize Gaza again and realizes the only way to do it is to get rid of the Palestinians once and for all and achieve some kind of final solution. Also realizes that it is easier to bribe Egypt and possibly other surrounding countries to let the Palestinians in. Basically, provide a way out while upping the terror more and building settlements again. Eventually most Palestinians will be forced off, those that refuse get killed and the land becomes part of Israel. Does need help from countries in the region and likely also have this be tolerated by Europe as this is likely to result in another massive refugee wave to Europe, which is kind of A Thing in European politics at the moment.
4. The next Israeli leader wants to colonize Gaza again and realizes that it's going to be way too hard to get countries in the region and Europe to cooperate with ~2 million people being made refugees and basically their problem to deal with. So clearly this call for a different kind of final solution, the type where ~2 million people need to get murdered at an industrial scale. Maybe Israeli, US and European societies will have slid rightward far enough to cheer this on, tolerate it or at least ignore it and pretend it isn't happening by the time someone goes for it.

My money is on 2, but like, the ideological groundwork has totally been laid for 3 and 4, and there's a playbook from the West Bank they can copy for 3.

Orange Devil has issued a correction as of 16:46 on May 19, 2021

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Israel has written off Gaza as part of a strategy of accelerating settlement in the West Bank. The long run game is making the land so toxic that nobody can live there, so Gazans will have to move into Egypt and Israel can move in to turn it into an industrial park.

there are huge problems with sewage also. israel intervened only when it began to effect their own beaches.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...9055_story.html

pancake rabbit
Feb 21, 2011




https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1395040846697963520

dti

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



good job, biden. that 4th call really helped

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Tom Guycot posted:

One thing I haven't really understood about Gaza is whats the sort of end game exactly? Like I understand the point of leveling all infrastructure, letting nothing in so stuff can be rebuilt, making like hellish for everyone there, etc, but isn't the point of doing that to try and get the people to leave so you can take the land? Yet, israel also isn't letting them leave, and working with egypt, isn't letting them leave that way either?

Its easy to be glib and say "the point is to exterminate them" or whatever, but birthrates exceed deaths still, and ultimately the point is to have them gone so they can take it, but that has to necessitate either letting them leave and go be refugees in egypt or elsewhere, or straight up exceeding births with deaths. Yet they do neither?


Do they actually not want the land that much and a boogyman is more useful? Is it just no one HAS a real plan so they're just punting with periodic bombs?


I don't understand trying to force them out but not letting them out.

they are trying to make them die not leave. end game is to reduce the palestinian population to native american in the USA levels so they are not a political force in the region

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
https://twitter.com/davidklion/status/1395039120125272070?s=21

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Good to see the Democrats are still working on submitting a letter

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


to be in charge of a non-American country as it's de-facto leader is the American dream :patriot:

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The US Government referring to Israel's massacres as an "event" that needs to wind down makes it clear just how much they're aware this is being manufactured by Tel Aviv.

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