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Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_hzOYHNOaU

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gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011
How would things have gone if the Flag Smashers actually have support and during the grc summit they were backed by angry rioters who hate the GRC who help Karli and the flag Smashers out? I was kind of disappointed for all the support they had, the final clash was essentially just the super soldiers kidnapping politicians and not angry teens and young adults who had their experience with Facebook socialism and decide to take it to the street to support the Flag Smashers

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

gyrobot posted:

How would things have gone if the Flag Smashers actually have support and during the grc summit they were backed by angry rioters who hate the GRC who help Karli and the flag Smashers out? I was kind of disappointed for all the support they had, the final clash was essentially just the super soldiers kidnapping politicians and not angry teens and young adults who had their experience with Facebook socialism and decide to take it to the street to support the Flag Smashers

Based on how things go in the real world, a lot of teens and young adults getting beat up by the cops.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

live with fruit posted:

Based on how things go in the real world, a lot of teens and young adults getting beat up by the cops.

Pretty much this. I mean, in the actual series, it's not like the cops were all that relevant to dealing with the Flag-smashers until the very end. And all they did there was provide the truck to put them in for Zemo's butler to blow up.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011
I think the difference is that teens and youth are more impressionable and going to question authority and thinks despite being snapped out existence doesn't mean the government should be doing this kind of poo poo that they won't benefit From or worse be sympathetic because we all more aware of the economic inequality and this only going to benefit the rich.

Think about this for a second

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=231792802049548&set=a.110532670842229

Would any zoomer support a government entity that wants the wealth redistributed back into the coffers of the boomers? Of course not, they would join the Flag Smashers and help topple the nation state even if it could cost them their lives.

gyrobot fucked around with this message at 21:20 on May 17, 2021

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Unless they were like a comfortable white suburban zoomer who is old enough at 16 to realize that his dad’s above-ground pool dealership and by extension all of his expensive sneakers are precisely due to his boomer dad’s expanding coffers, and then they’d call you a gay ANTEEFUH online

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
Or they'd just threaten to do something and then just kinda not. Like nearly everyone ever.

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vpCIadly88

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

I am so grateful for these for making the wait for June 9 slightly more bearable.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Ok so Loki is… Dr. Who? On some kind of… time probation?

The clips looked really awesome! I’ll probably bang out the Thor’s today, as I continue my seemingly endless quest to not watch Endgame.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Bust Rodd posted:

Ok so Loki is… Dr. Who? On some kind of… time probation?

Think of him more like the Master, who’s now working for the Time Lords.

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!



Welp, we are finally getting shirtless Loki. The MCU tradition continues.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Might as well get the most out of the multi million dollar training they give their actors.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Desperado Bones posted:

Welp, we are finally getting shirtless Loki. The MCU tradition continues.

Only Cheadle and Renner are left.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Armor Wars and Hawkeye looking better by the day

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Apropos of this, the Netflix algorithm apparently knows me really loving well.

Geo Fixer
Jan 10, 2012

"Freedom lies in being bold."
-Robert Frost

The_Doctor posted:

Apropos of this, the Netflix algorithm apparently knows me really loving well.



Good choice! Just don't watch past the first season. :(

Cage Kicker
Feb 20, 2009

End of the fiscal year, bitch.
MP's got time to order pens for year year, hooah?


SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made



Lipstick Apathy

Bust Rodd posted:

Ok so Loki is… Dr. Who? On some kind of… time probation?


So from what the trailers and clips have intimated, Loki picking up the Tesseract and escaping during the Time Heist created approximately OH MY loving GOD WHY levels of alternate timelines and now they are going to make him fix it.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
Been reaching the MCU and Tony Stark is so inconsistent from Civil War to Spiderman Homecoming. Like his whole argument in Civil War is that superheroes need regulation and then in Homecoming he gives a child an enhanced techno suit with little to no oversight.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Been reaching the MCU and Tony Stark is so inconsistent from Civil War to Spiderman Homecoming. Like his whole argument in Civil War is that superheroes need regulation and then in Homecoming he gives a child an enhanced techno suit with little to no oversight.

Doesn't the suit have some sort of AI monitoring him?

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.
Homecoming outright talks about the suit having a lot of oversight built in, and almost immediately after Peter disables the safeties and lockouts, Tony takes the suit back from him.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Been reaching the MCU and Tony Stark is so inconsistent from Civil War to Spiderman Homecoming. Like his whole argument in Civil War is that superheroes need regulation and then in Homecoming he gives a child an enhanced techno suit with little to no oversight.

He actually gives him the suit in Civil War. And he's the oversight. There's even a plot point in Homecoming where they have to disable it because he's tracking everything Peter does closely.

In It For The Tank
Feb 17, 2011

But I've yet to figure out a better way to spend my time.
Tony could track Peter at all times and limited Peter's access to the suit's full functions. That says regulatory oversight to me.

E: beaten

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Yeah the program in the suit is even called Training Wheels.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Been reaching the MCU and Tony Stark is so inconsistent from Civil War to Spiderman Homecoming. Like his whole argument in Civil War is that superheroes need regulation and then in Homecoming he gives a child an enhanced techno suit with little to no oversight.

If we think really hard, we might be able to intuit why the trust-fund STEMlord whose eleven year-long storyarc is about learning to trust in and work for the interests of others was a wee hypocritical about giving control to the government after a woman personally guilt-tripped him during a period when he was on a break from his load-bearing relationship with his mom-wife.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Cage Kicker posted:

So from what the trailers and clips have intimated, Loki picking up the Tesseract and escaping during the Time Heist created approximately OH MY loving GOD WHY levels of alternate timelines and now they are going to make him fix it.

I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that Loki isn't actually the one responsible for the time problems, and we'll find out part way through that one of the heads of the TVA is loving around with time in some fashion and blamed it on him as a convenient pawn, because while it's easy to imagine Loki as the root cause of his own downfall, it's also really difficult to imagine that the all powerful, self appointed bureau that not only observes but controls a thing isn't corrupt as gently caress.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
Oversight by Tony Stark isn't oversight by the UN!

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Tony also ghosts Ross at the end of Civil War so he's not still a big Accords guy by Homecoming.

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

tsob posted:

I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that Loki isn't actually the one responsible for the time problems, and we'll find out part way through that one of the heads of the TVA is loving around with time in some fashion and blamed it on him as a convenient pawn, because while it's easy to imagine Loki as the root cause of his own downfall, it's also really difficult to imagine that the all powerful, self appointed bureau that not only observes but controls a thing isn't corrupt as gently caress.

He’s the Loki from Endgame that picked up the Tesseract and disappeared when Tony got Hulk’d therefor not going back to Asgard with Thor and messing up the timeline.

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
Hulk being mad about having to walk down the stairs spawned a D+ series

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~

Anita Dickinme posted:

He’s the Loki from Endgame that picked up the Tesseract and disappeared when Tony got Hulk’d therefor not going back to Asgard with Thor and messing up the timeline.

Oh, I'm aware. I just don't think he's going to be the real issue in the end. Or at least, I'm assuming the TVA will itself prove to be a problem in some manner, so that Loki will be justified in going rogue to undercut it as well as him just being kind of a poo poo in general. Again, I just don't see an agency appointed by no-one so far as we know, with ultimate control over something as fundamental as time and deciding with no apparent oversight the "true" order of events that must be preserved not being corrupt in some way. Especially when we can see in some of the spots that they kill people for minor infractions. The dude the guard got rid of may not even ever have existed, given what happened to him and where. Which is worse again, really.

tsob fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 20, 2021

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

live with fruit posted:

Tony also ghosts Ross at the end of Civil War so he's not still a big Accords guy by Homecoming.

Ross and Tony always have the whole agree to disagree love hate relationship. In the black widow prequel comic he knew what Tony would be up to.


X-O posted:

He actually gives him the suit in Civil War. And he's the oversight. There's even a plot point in Homecoming where they have to disable it because he's tracking everything Peter does closely.

Also the thing he took his suit for was trying to do the first thing he did as iron man, stop weapon dealers. Yes Tony beat those assholes easily, but Stane had the drop on him

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Loki would be a way more interesting series if he actually WAS the problem and his character arc was literally learning to experience remorse, to contrast Wanda and Bucky's similar "learning to live with it" storylines.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Loki as a show is going to be fundamentally hamstrung by the fact that he had a ton of growth in Thor 2 and Thor 3, followed by a genuinely noble death in Infinity War, and this version of Loki went through none of that.

I suspect we'll have him getting out of trouble after fixing the timeline just enough to not blow up the universe by turning himself into a teenager or woman or something with a backdoor for whenever Disney wants to pay for Hiddleston again.

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021
I wonder if he'll do enough timeline poo poo that he ends up meeting the Thor 3 version of himself. I would assume not but it would be a way to transfer in some of that growth.

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


mind the walrus posted:

Loki as a show is going to be fundamentally hamstrung by the fact that he had a ton of growth in Thor 2 and Thor 3, followed by a genuinely noble death in Infinity War, and this version of Loki went through none of that.

I suspect we'll have him getting out of trouble after fixing the timeline just enough to not blow up the universe by turning himself into a teenager or woman or something with a backdoor for whenever Disney wants to pay for Hiddleston again.

It's gonna have two seasons.

Hence there's gonna be Loki -and probably more Owen Wilson- for quite a while. It's also linked to the current phase so I doubt everything will be fixed in S1. Guess he is just gonna make things worst and it's going to be what starts Dr. Strange and Spider-man's adventures.

Or maybe no! Who knows!

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Desperado Bones posted:

It's gonna have two seasons.
When did they confirm that? That's fantastic.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.



mind the walrus posted:

When did they confirm that? That's fantastic.

Give Hiddleston as much money as he wants for as long as he wants, says me.


Though this is a bit of speculation, seems reasonable.
https://collider.com/loki-season-2-disney-plus-marvel/

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Desperado Bones posted:

It's gonna have two seasons.

Hence there's gonna be Loki -and probably more Owen Wilson- for quite a while. It's also linked to the current phase so I doubt everything will be fixed in S1. Guess he is just gonna make things worst and it's going to be what starts Dr. Strange and Spider-man's adventures.

Or maybe no! Who knows!

There's rumors that Jonathan Majors makes his debut as Kang, which potentially sets him up as the big bad of the phase with F4 in the final spot which is usually taken by an Avengers movie.

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Moreau
Jul 26, 2009

live with fruit posted:

There's rumors that Jonathan Majors makes his debut as Kang, which potentially sets him up as the big bad of the phase with F4 in the final spot which is usually taken by an Avengers movie.

Kang's certainly a logical next Big Bad, now that they have buggered up the timestream (I think that's the technical term). And yeah, backdoor in some F4 along with him

I mean, who else could the next Big Bad be? I cant see the next Thanos level, multi-movie threat being anyone other than Kang or Annihilus. Unless they move away from a single villain and go with an event instead... Operation Galactic Storm, maybe.

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