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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

punk rebel ecks posted:

She's literally the only good squad member.


Jews, in America at least, are considered white unless being looked at through the most extreme lens of white supremacy.

Tom Aharon is Mizrahim, which nobody in America would think of as white under any context, but hardly makes him "white" in the homeland either.

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smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
rankin' da Squad Members

who ya got

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
"The Squad" just split their "Present" and "Against" votes in precise numbers to allow a bill to get through the House that gives hundreds of millions of dollars to cops.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1395541347537457158

https://twitter.com/equalityAlec/status/1395421126239604736

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

thats a level of self control i dont think id be capable of if i experienced a bit of what they go through every day.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
:thumbsup:

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


gradenko_2000 posted:

"The Squad" just split their "Present" and "Against" votes in precise numbers to allow a bill to get through the House that gives hundreds of millions of dollars to cops.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1395541347537457158

https://twitter.com/equalityAlec/status/1395421126239604736

lol

:d2a:

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon



I took psychic damage from this.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Radirot posted:

thats a level of self control i dont think id be capable of if i experienced a bit of what they go through every day.

The ceasefire is the closest thing to a victory against Israel since the Yom Kippur War. The victorious tend to be magnanimous while the defeated seek revenge.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

"The Squad" just split their "Present" and "Against" votes in precise numbers to allow a bill to get through the House that gives hundreds of millions of dollars to cops.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1395541347537457158

https://twitter.com/equalityAlec/status/1395421126239604736

the cops literally let them in. the solution isnt to have more. jfc this pisses me off.

RadiRoot has issued a correction as of 05:47 on May 21, 2021

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

crepeface posted:

you can download this app to defend israel online for points that you can trade for gift cards.

israel is literally paying people for upvotes lmao. apparently it's a joint venture between a private israeli university and a sheldon adelson foundation. how did i never hear about this

https://imgur.com/a/dJ3P7PL

come play my lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxKrn8Aqa0A

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I mean on the one hand "The Squad" was always largely a creation of the media that was casting about for any kind of progressive bloc/caucus that they could talk about, especially since Congressional Progressive Caucus is a toothless wolverine, and even Corey Bush has said that they don't vote together:

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2104/25/ip.01.html

quote:

PHILLIP: What is stopping you from flexing that same power for your agenda? You just said you would vote against a compromise on qualified immunity. Are you prepared and the rest of the squad prepared to use that kind of veto power that you have if you vote as a bloc?

BUSH: You know, I'm prepared to do whatever is needed, that our agenda moves forward, but I can't speak for the rest of the squad members.

At the end of the day, my sister Ayanna -- Rep. Ayanna Pressley says it all the time, you vote alone, and you're voting for your districts. So you're voting for the people who voted you in. You're voting their needs and their values.

On the other hand, that they don't vote together despite this popular perception that they do, or this popular idea that they should, is a huge discredit to them.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://twitter.com/HaidarAkarar/status/1395591689239244801?s=20

https://twitter.com/Sanawhotweets/status/1395581959422763008?s=20

https://twitter.com/Mayo_indo/status/1395582904542052352?s=20

https://twitter.com/Allia_7/status/1395592020865978368?s=20

https://twitter.com/AJArabic/status/1395538913519968257?s=20

https://twitter.com/AJArabic/status/1395520724366995465?s=20

https://twitter.com/AJArabic/status/1395519026210672649?s=20

:unsmith:

LONG LIVE PALESTINE

:unsmith:

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 05:44 on May 21, 2021

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

gradenko_2000 posted:

a toothless wolverine

i'll just nab this little euphemism thank you

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/ArutzSheva_En/status/1395583270432120832?s=20

quote:

"The ceasefire agreed upon between Israel and the terrorist organizations in Gaza, mediated by the Egyptians without conditions, proves that despite the backing and patience and heroism that residents of the south have shown for 20 years, Prime Minister Netanyahu and the Israeli government do not really want to overthrow Hamas and prefer temporary quiet for the residents of central Israel at the expense of the residents of the Gaza envelope and the south who will continue to suffer from terrorism," Davidi charged.

"Unfortunately, those who will pay the price again are the residents of the Gaza envelope and Sderot," he continued.

https://twitter.com/LinahAlsaafin/status/1395480699159949312?s=20

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

So how is this really a victory? It’s an awesome thing that the fighting has stopped but a ceasefire could end in a snap and the palestinian people paid dearly. I suppose you could say the blatant mask off stuff is a victory long term, though as someone in this thread pointed out, the US can’t stop supporting Israel at this point or they risk nuclear war. Otoh those very same nukes should prevent another six day war scenario.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007
is this the end for Netanyahu?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Death to Israel

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret

Radirot posted:

is this the end for Netanyahu?

No

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Radirot posted:

is this the end for Netanyahu?

evil doesn't die

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

ASAPRockySituation posted:

So how is this really a victory? It’s an awesome thing that the fighting has stopped but a ceasefire could end in a snap and the palestinian people paid dearly. I suppose you could say the blatant mask off stuff is a victory long term, though as someone in this thread pointed out, the US can’t stop supporting Israel at this point or they risk nuclear war. Otoh those very same nukes should prevent another six day war scenario.

The "Samson Option" is bullshit.

This period of war lasted for 11 days, while the 2014 Gaza war lasted 7 weeks. In 11 days Hamas & its allies launched more rockets than they were able to attack Israel with in 7 weeks in 2014, and a ceasefire came without any IDF ground invasion. Riots and strikes in Israel & the West Bank overstretched Israeli security and made the economy scream. Across all fronts the power of the resistance strong armed Israel and forced it to yell uncle over the objections of its own constituencies.

That sure as gently caress sounds like a victory to me. Things could always change tomorrow, but if they do it will be because Israelis cannot tolerate this humiliation.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

ASAPRockySituation posted:

So how is this really a victory? It’s an awesome thing that the fighting has stopped but a ceasefire could end in a snap and the palestinian people paid dearly. I suppose you could say the blatant mask off stuff is a victory long term, though as someone in this thread pointed out, the US can’t stop supporting Israel at this point or they risk nuclear war. Otoh those very same nukes should prevent another six day war scenario.

it has undermined the legitimacy of the Israeli state both domestically and abroad, caused real measurable economic damage in Israel, and, while it exacted a terrible human cost on the Palestinian people, it did not significantly degrade their capacity for resistance at all

no it's definitely not the end for Netanyahu, but this is not in any way an Israeli victory

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
yeah given the power imbalance the Palestinians won an important moral and political victory, they made the Israeli state and society pay a price they weren’t able to keep paying, the question is, can this be translated to things like stopping the ethnic cleansing of sheikh jarrah or a lifting of significant aspects of the siege? time will tell.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
Americans will forget this like they forgot that Trump was the president.

Rest of the world might might dogpile a bit quicker next time

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Really, if this is the end for Netanyahu it'll be because some farther right psychopath replaces him in the next elections.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free

Atrocious Joe posted:

I'm expecting Tlaib and Omar to get the full Corbyn treatment. And mainstream arguments over if the mass protests in the US for Palestine had the potential to become pogroms.


https://twitter.com/SarsourDima/status/1395574924891275265?s=20

Nuke Israel

Give them an hour to get out before you do it though, that’s the only moral way to do it

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Tom Aharon is Mizrahim, which nobody in America would think of as white under any context, but hardly makes him "white" in the homeland either.

Thanks for the correction. I assumed he was ashkenazi.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
what's the radical left scene like in Israel? Feel like I've heard literally nothing about one

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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apatheticman posted:

Americans will forget this like they forgot that Trump was the president.

Rest of the world might might dogpile a bit quicker next time

maybe the specifics, but the american public has definitely left this with a lower opinion of israel than they had going in to it.

continuing that progression is the only way this poo poo is ever going to get better, just like south africa.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

smarxist posted:

what's the radical left scene like in Israel? Feel like I've heard literally nothing about one

the radical left in Israel proper is extremely marginal and mostly Arab, with the Israeli Communist Party holding two seats in the Knesset as part of the Joint List parliamentary alliance which is an alliance of Arab-majority parties, and one or two other even smaller and less relevant parties.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

the war might not have been a smashing victory but it is probably enough for bibi to hang onto power

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



if anything happens in the near future which could possibly be spun as a "terrorist hamas attack", i.e one random lone wolf blows something up, this ceasefire will be presented as a failure and top israel brass gets to say "well we just tried peace" as they eagerly ramp up the genocide

this is my armchair american take but evil is evil and it's not hard to guess what could happen

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

it’s the first time the international media has published jewish led pogroms before the “both sides” violence

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://twitter.com/areej_abusaleem/status/1395627242366111746?s=20

:unsmith:

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Terminal autist posted:

Yeah it's pretty obvious that Biden has been putting pressure on Israel in the background while publicly taking a more moderate approach. The fact that Bibi immediately came out with that announcement after Biden called him up, and then the almost immediate ceasefire agreement afterward makes it pretty obvious that Bibi was just trying to publicly save face while in reality they had to back off due to pressure from the US. It's a very shrewd tactic. Classic Biden.

you know, when you want to play hard ball, the real knuckle ball, you show yourself like, like you want to play no ball, with anyone, and, but, you know, in the background, you're lobbing all sorts of balls, you've got softballs and hardballs and fastballs and you're just practicing against the mat, getting ready to show the real ball you want to play with those good but troubled friends of yours that won't give any sort of ball back

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


somewhere an IDF solider is uploading her face and address to a database labelled “hamas training camp”

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1395567306789593090?s=19

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
wait, military police? that's not even front-line duty! gently caress off!

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

at least pompeo was honest in saying that a huge chunk of the military is pro israel because of their doomsday rapture psychosis , even though logically once israel kicks out the muslims it’s also going to kick out christians and the other minorities

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

military police are the most powertripping cops on the planet lmao

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