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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexGabuev/status/1395058547415736325

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
The Russia MIC and energy industry are Putin's core backers. China has been maintaining long term business with these Russian industries. For example, China placed a large order of mid sized military helicopters with Russia last year right around time of the Sino-India conflict.

Also China already have 2 nuclear plants designs, they don't have to buy from the Russians, but choose to anyway. They probably hold up the announcement and release it right after the Biden-Putin talk story.

Speaking of outside solutions that China doesn't really need. China has invested in and has a contract with Biotech to produce the mRNA vaccine for up to 1 billion jab for the Chinese domestic market. China already have 4 Covid vaccine solutions and all of them are approved inside China. I think they probably will use the mNRA vaccine inside China and export all their Sinovac and Sinopherm vaccines for vaccine diplomacy.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/YonhapNews/status/1395893897092485120

https://twitter.com/YonhapNews/status/1395874570234593280

liberals are patting themselves on the back for the brilliant centrism of this deal that gives both the hawks and the peaceniks what they want without stopping to think that north korea sees poo poo like the entirely pointless south korean military buildup as evidence they arent actually sincere about peace talks

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/SheenaGreitens/status/1395772023952089091

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/GregPoling/status/1395465529419259904

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
done

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Poling is the dude from CSIS that was just quoted earlier this week as saying the US was about to pull out of the Philippines because Duterte wouldn't renew the VFA

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

indigi posted:

why join the militia over the PLA? people who are just too old to do it otherwise?
i think it's like a national guard organization and also functions in a similar way to ROTC on college campuses. but i like the old ladies, which is different

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

incidentally just in case anyone thinks bidens people are sincere about building on the singapore framework and arent just pretending to be conciliatory on the issue to avoid embarrassing moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkqrkC5Cccc

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


America doesn't want the status quo on the korean peninsula to change. Unified korea is another germany to deal with and NK is a convenient target for sabre rattling and hard looks when you want to change a narrative.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

only trump could go to Korea

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

It's hard to imagine a unified Korea being anything along the lines of German reunification. The North Koreans are well aware that reunification through privatization hollowed out eastern Germany and led to a permanent decline compared to the west. The DPRK already has a remarkably advanced economy for what it's worth, and they're not the ones who will be cashing in on being forcibly marketized.

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Well no it wouldn't be the same, because China, unlike the USSR would probably still exist in the world where Korea unifies.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's hard to imagine a unified Korea being anything along the lines of German reunification. The North Koreans are well aware that reunification through privatization hollowed out eastern Germany and led to a permanent decline compared to the west. The DPRK already has a remarkably advanced economy for what it's worth, and they're not the ones who will be cashing in on being forcibly marketized.

It's not at all clear to me who "they" are though. Quite a number, though probably not the majority, of the soviet elite made out quite well from selling their country off.

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

only trump could go to Korea

He didn't end up doing anything though.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

genericnick posted:

It's not at all clear to me who "they" are though. Quite a number, though probably not the majority, of the soviet elite made out quite well from selling their country off.

That's because they were selling off the country to themselves. Reunification of Germany had privatization directed by the FRG, which meant west German capitalists got first dibs on the east German firesale.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

http://www.mfa.gov.kp/en/national-rights-of-the-palestinian-people-can-never-be-deprived-of/

quote:

The recent Palestinian situation has become the spotlight of the world.

The Muslims in a traditional praying ceremony in Al-Aqsa Mosque of East Kuds during Ramadan (April 13~May 12), the Islamic fasting month, clashed with the Jewish extreme rightists attempting to stop it. And the Israeli police intervened and suppressed the Palestinians, triggering the bloodshed between the two sides with a number of casualties from early May.

This coincided with the decision of the Israeli authority to force the Palestinians out of their residential areas in Sheikh Jarrah of East Kuds, fuelling the wrath of Palestinians to extremes.

Enraged by the Israeli atrocities in the East Kuds, the resistance groups including Hamas (Islamic Resistance Movement) in Gaza, fired tens of missiles towards Israel in solidarity with the struggle of Palestinians.

Israel responded with indiscriminate bombings and shelling on 750 targets in Gaza for several days from May 10 by mobilizing fighters, attack helicopters, artillery, warships, and armoured forces of ground army, leading to the death of 200-plus people and injury of about 1,500 people, including women and children.

In this regard, the Arab and Islamic countries, and international society are condemning the Israeli inhuman violence and demanding an immediate halt to its brutal attacks.

The massacre committed by Israel in East Kuds and Gaza is a war crime and a crime against humanity which is contrary to international law. Israel should immediately rescind the decision to forcibly evacuate the Palestinians from Sheikh Jarrah of East Kuds.

Israel should bear in mind that no coercive act whatsoever can subdue the Palestinian people and obliterate their national rights.

We fully support the fighting Palestinian people and also express our firm solidarity with the Palestinian people in their righteous cause of establishing an independent state with East Kuds as the capital.



Yang Myong Song

Secretary General

Korea-Arab Association

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


The chad Juche vs the virgin Dengist

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

That's because they were selling off the country to themselves. Reunification of Germany had privatization directed by the FRG, which meant west German capitalists got first dibs on the east German firesale.

That's a good point actually. If they'd press the selloff button there really would be little reason to not cut them out of their share of the loot.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020



Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

AnimeIsTrash posted:

The chad Juche vs the virgin Dengist

It's almost like 'socialism in one country' only exists to destroy international solidarity and favors the conservative capitalists

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

The Philippines would become more attractive to foreign direct investors from the United States and European Union primarily because the 60/40 Filipino-foreign equity cap is the impediment for our country from joining the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) and the ASEAN-EU Free Trade Agreement. Our country cannot be eligible into joining into these FTAs because they demand national treatment for all investors coming from member signatory nation-states and the 60/40 cap cannot be justified as a bargaining chip in negotiations with these countries anymore.

The downside, however, would be the inevitable increase of land value on idle lands meant to be sold to prospective buyers, but such land value price increase is necessary to attract possible foreign investors and cultivate those lands, instead of maintaining these idle lands to well-off Filipinos who do not reside in the Philippines any more.

Personally, I would rather allow 100% foreign equity ownership of businesses and private lands, so that foreign investors would flock into my town in Cebu that will make my future apartment business financially viable and spike land value prices up in my area and sell some idle lands I expected to be inherited from my maternal grandparents and mother because it is too unlikely for me to have a children (I am now a celibate person). Also, to make me eligible into acquiring real properties in the country in the future without possessing Philippine citizenship.

quote:

Nothing wrong with it if I'm going to profit from scrapping 60/40 because local investors are not keen into investing agriculture in which the idle land of my grandparents is an agricultural land that needs to be sell off by myself because we don't have relatives to hire to cultivate them as all of them are professionals that one of them (my second cousin) is already a naturalized Australian citizen and has already been a resident of Australia.
I guess this is what it's like when you smoke out an honest to god Comprador

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 18:59 on May 22, 2021

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Grapplejack posted:

It's almost like 'socialism in one country' only exists to destroy international solidarity and favors the conservative capitalists

It's funny how stuff becomes "state capitalism" once you start pointing out that countries like Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, and Nepal are communist countries or run by the communist party.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Look, Obama called it state capitalism. Good enough for me!

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

Grapplejack posted:

It's almost like 'socialism in one country' only exists to destroy international solidarity and favors the conservative capitalists

ok trot

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Grapplejack posted:

It's almost like 'socialism in one country' only exists to destroy international solidarity and favors the conservative capitalists

the only way china could get the massive capital investment it did was to make concessions to DC. led to some horrendous foreign policy poo poo like the sino-viestnamese war, but they maintained their sovereignity and independence and kept rigid state control over the capitalists (rather than vice versa) instead of having their elites hollow out their country like others that caved to american pressure, for example in south america, or become american protectorates like some in southeast asia.

you want to talk about international solidarity, - cut to a few decades later and the existence of a near-peer sovereign economic power (as opposed to protectorates like germany/japan) is the only thing giving countries in the american empire's crosshairs like bolivia, venezuela, cuba and iran some breathing room.

massive exports of vaccines, medical equipment even to regimes hostile to it: https://translate.google.com/transl...asil/a-56344254)

investment in iran: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3127278/iran-and-china-sign-25-year-cooperation-agreement

engagement in south america, which included working with bolivia to help develop their (state owned) lithium resources before the coup happened: https://peoplesdispatch.org/2020/11/10/china-is-working-to-expand-its-ties-to-latin-america/

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

gradenko_2000 posted:

I guess this is what it's like when you smoke out an honest to god Comprador

So if I am reading this right they want to sell land that they own but isn't being used to foreign capital? Instead of some locals, because the foreign capitalists can pay a lot more?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Southpaugh posted:

Unified korea

even without American involvement is this likely to happen within the next half century? I don’t think either country is especially enthusiastic about such a radical alteration to their government and economic system. maybe I’m wrong though

mila kunis posted:

you want to talk about international solidarity, - cut to a few decades later and the existence of a near-peer sovereign economic power (as opposed to protectorates like germany/japan) is the only thing giving countries in the american empire's crosshairs like bolivia, venezuela, cuba and iran some breathing room.

that’s all well and good as far as side effects of China’s economic rise go but it’s not really “international solidarity” in any meaningful, participatory sense

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

indigi posted:


that’s all well and good as far as side effects of China’s economic rise go but it’s not really “international solidarity” in any meaningful, participatory sense

tell that to cuba i guess.

Muscle Wizard
Jul 28, 2011

by sebmojo

indigi posted:

even without American involvement is this likely to happen within the next half century? I don’t think either country is especially enthusiastic about such a radical alteration to their government and economic system. maybe I’m wrong though


that’s all well and good as far as side effects of China’s economic rise go but it’s not really “international solidarity” in any meaningful, participatory sense

both nk and sk explicitly desire reunification.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Muscle Wizard posted:

both nk and sk explicitly desire reunification.

yes but which government has demonstrated a willingness to give up power to achieve it?

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


trump had no interest in actually putting people in the right places to get any of his foreign agenda done that wasn't explicitly about doing whatever Israel wanted and trying to start Cold War 2

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

indigi posted:

that’s all well and good as far as side effects of China’s economic rise go but it’s not really “international solidarity” in any meaningful, participatory sense

China built a massive nickel planet in Cuba that makes up 11% of its exports. China also makes up the destination for 38% of Cuban exports despite being on the other side of the globe.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

indigi posted:

yes but which government has demonstrated a willingness to give up power to achieve it?

They could always try "one country, two koreas" where each state has its own government and political economy but freedom of movement across the border.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1396210812054867976

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

Grapplejack posted:

It's almost like 'socialism in one country' only exists to destroy international solidarity and favors the conservative capitalists

but... the dprk is also socialism in one country...

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thatfatkid
Feb 20, 2011

by Azathoth

indigi posted:

yes but which government has demonstrated a willingness to give up power to achieve it?

Clearly the nation founded on the framework of Japanese colonialism and being a fascist vassal state of the US Empire should immediately dismantle themselves and beg for mercy as applied by the guiding light of juche ideals.

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