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d0s
Jun 28, 2004

I replied to a possible wumao or tankie on youtube comments (no why) with a litany of sins committed by the US, poo poo talked every president 50 years back, said the US constitution was a racist tool of oppression. they replied with something about how the overton window makes those remarks meaningless because they're not being said by someone from the developing world. idk what that means but it was funny, I think they just pick random phrases from textbooks

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Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
No Why as explained by an A.I.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Shumagorath posted:

No Why as explained by an A.I.

No Wei-I.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
No Ai Weiwei

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


d0s posted:

I replied to a possible wumao or tankie on youtube comments (no why) with a litany of sins committed by the US, poo poo talked every president 50 years back, said the US constitution was a racist tool of oppression. they replied with something about how the overton window makes those remarks meaningless because they're not being said by someone from the developing world. idk what that means but it was funny, I think they just pick random phrases from textbooks

Following their train of thought, mighty China is a part of the developing world then.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Fearless posted:

Following their train of thought, mighty China is a part of the developing world then.

This is consistent with China either being a poor developing country that only racists could consider threatening or an all-conquering superpower destined to rule the world depending on whichever is convenient at any given moment

:umberto:

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
How many steps are we away from a true chabuduo AI?

Did Haier show up again in the thread?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

A beautiful world with beautiful places to visit

Barudak fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Jun 28, 2021

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Fearless posted:

Following their train of thought, mighty China is a part of the developing world then.

Funny how it always comes back to fascists being simultaneously the unfairly downtrodden underdogs and the big strong genius visionaries

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Barudak posted:

Alright, I'll say it. Im glad that dad loves his so enough to buy a vanity team and tank it both competitively and long term in its ability to attract and retain talent so his son gets to play. I wish more overloaded billionaire euro club buyers had that commitment to family.

2 of the 10 teams in Formula 1 are doing the same thing right now.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


EngineerJoe posted:

2 of the 10 teams in Formula 1 are doing the same thing right now.

Which 2? I know the russian trash one already who is the other?

Aware
Nov 18, 2003
Aston Martin.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Bum the Sad posted:

Lol I just got probated by genesplicer for my post. I can’t believe that dope is still around. Stay out of this thread gene. We have good mod here.

How about you don't use autistic as a slur?

Bum the Sad posted:

The concept of acknowledging your own wrong doing as bad is just brain breaking for the them.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Weka posted:

How about you don't use autistic as a slur?

are you sure it was used as a slur and not as an adjective

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
All goons are either on the spectrum or in denial about being on the spectrum. Everyone who isn’t stopped posting in their 20s.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Strategic Tea posted:

Funny how it always comes back to fascists being simultaneously the unfairly downtrodden underdogs and the big strong genius visionaries

Not just fascist governments but, yeah, authoritarianism's foundation is lying constantly, saying whatever is most convenient at any given time.

Which is why when it comes to international trade, inequality, and labor issues you are a developing country who needs every advantage and exception to the rules - while simultaneously you can talk up your industrial, economic, and military might while blasting out news about billion dollar vanity projects.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012


:pressf:

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM
that race had a 12% fatality rate

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
So is that like face culture of dont admit a problem

Or like dont give up...

Cause i dont get it

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Ups_rail posted:

So is that like face culture of dont admit a problem

Or like dont give up...

Cause i dont get it

No no, it's something way more universal. It's the spoilt and bit thick 9 year old kid who is trying to insult you so they "win" whatever it is they think we're talking about. The team with the most embarrassing facts told about them is supposed to loose and the mostest intelligent people can disqualify the other teams arguments with smart and loudly screamed logic.

Mind you this is also a description of the mindset that spawned both face culture and Internet arguing.

ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 18:14 on May 23, 2021

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

when i discovered marxism my freshman year of college i thought i was now posessed with transcendent wisdom that most people were too brainwashed to see. made me feel smarter than most people. i got over it like most people do but the type of people who post in cspam never did. such a weird mix of cynicism, political idealism, and depression. they need to get into bass fishing or kayaking or something. get off the drat internet.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
I'd say they need to get laid, but that applies to all goons in general.

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002
Hell Gem

ninjoatse.cx posted:

All goons are either on the spectrum or in denial about being on the spectrum. Everyone who isn’t stopped posting in their 20s.

This guy gets it.

the panacea
May 10, 2008

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:
C'mon there are plenty of other debilitating psychological issues we suffer from.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Mulaney Power Move posted:

when i discovered marxism my freshman year of college i thought i was now posessed with transcendent wisdom that most people were too brainwashed to see. made me feel smarter than most people. i got over it like most people do but the type of people who post in cspam never did. such a weird mix of cynicism, political idealism, and depression. they need to get into bass fishing or kayaking or something. get off the drat internet.

Hi I think Marx was a big dummy and I post in cspam sometimes. Don't get me wrong, Marxism has done very well by China. Sure they're a genocidal imperial regime but what country isn't?

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.
I’m going to Taiwan! What should I see? I have like 4 days.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

The North Tower posted:

I’m going to Taiwan! What should I see? I have like 4 days.

Will you be in Taipei? I'd check out Tamsui district, Taipei 101, some night markets, Guandhua digital plaza if you're into nerd poo poo, the zoo is good too. Nearby also the Xiaoyoukeng Recreation Area and a bit further the Taroko park but it's worth the trip.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

The North Tower posted:

I’m going to Taiwan! What should I see? I have like 4 days.

Go to the toilet restaurant.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

The North Tower posted:

I’m going to Taiwan! What should I see? I have like 4 days.

Hit up every night market possible, gently caress sleeping just load up on stinky tofu.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

there is a very good chance Taiwan will be in lockdown in four days so I suggest not coming right now?

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


The North Tower posted:

I’m going to Taiwan! What should I see? I have like 4 days.

All the shut shops you dummy.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

The North Tower posted:

I’m going to Taiwan! What should I see? I have like 4 days.

The inside of a locked room for no less than 14 days.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

The North Tower posted:

I’m going to Taiwan! What should I see? I have like 4 days.

Wat

Rabelais D
Dec 11, 2012

ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door
Are they even letting non residents in? I can't imagine spending two to three weeks in quarantine for four days.

I just got my China visa (90 day stay) and I'm seriously considering not going to the mainland this summer because I don't want to deal with the 14 days hotel quarantine plus seven days medical observation in a designated home address.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I wouldn't travel anywhere that isn't allowing vaccinated people to skip quarantine. Unless you're moving for work, then whatever, but spending two weeks of a vacation stuck in a hotel quarantine? Why?

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.
Not for a bit, but we finally agreed on our first post-covid trip and it’s now #1. Was just excited and wanted to start building out my ‘must see’ list.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Vaccines as a Service

quote:

Efficacy of Chinese vaccines is “not high”—officials back 3rd dose
Protection wanes by 6 months; Experts call for high-risk people to get 3rd dose.

Officials in Beijing are reportedly planning to roll out third doses of China’s COVID-19 vaccines. These shots have long been dogged by doubts of their efficacy.

According to a report by The Washington Post, health experts in China say that protection from the vaccines may not last after six months and that people who are at high risk of COVID-19 should get a third dose. Now, state-run media outlets suggest Beijing is on board with the suggestion and is preparing to offer the third doses.

Last week, both the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain said they would offer third doses of China’s Sinopharm vaccine to try to boost protection. UAE is offering the extra shots to anyone who was vaccinated six or more months ago. Bahrain is offering third doses to high-risk groups.

Sinopharm’s COVID-19 vaccine as well as China’s Sinovac vaccine are made with whole, inactivated coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. Inactivated virus vaccines have the advantage of being relatively easy to make. But, they come with the potential drawback of providing weaker protection than more targeted vaccine approaches, such as the mRNA-based vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna), which take aim at just one particularly key element of the virus: the spike protein.

Efficacy problems
Sinopharm has reported a 79 percent efficacy rate for its inactivated vaccine, but it has not released the full data supporting that estimate. Sinovac’s vaccine may have an efficacy rate as low as 50 percent, according to trial data out of Brazil.

Last month, the head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, George Gao, seemed to acknowledge the problem, saying that the efficacy of China’s vaccines is “not high.”

Gao, speaking at a conference in Chengdu, said that Beijing was “formally considering” possibilities to “solve the problem that the efficacy of the existing vaccines is not high.” Those possibilities included altering individual doses or increasing the number of doses people receive.

The comments were quickly censored on Chinese social media, the Post reported at the time. The Post also noted that state-run media called reports of Gao’s statement’s “hyped up.”

Though experts have raised questions about the efficacy of China’s vaccines since their data-less release, the need for boosters isn’t necessarily avoidable. Speaking in a series of public interviews last week, top US infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci noted that immunity to common coronaviruses isn’t long-term. He predicted that people given the highly-efficacious mRNA vaccines may still need a booster “within a year or so.” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla largely agreed with Fauci, saying boosters may be needed somewhere between eight to 12 months, though the data is still unclear on the exact timing.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/05/efficacy-of-chinese-vaccines-is-not-high-officials-back-3rd-dose/

Rabelais D
Dec 11, 2012

ts'u nnu k'u k'o t'khye:
A demon doth defecate at thy door
It absolutely sucks that I will need regular boosters to keep my immunity up to circa 50% because I had to get sinovac for political reasons.

Definitely hoping Hong Kong will buy some Sinopharm at least, or that the 山寨版 Chinese MRNA vaccines come out soon.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I think, realistically, we'll all be getting boosters

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Rabelais D posted:

Are they even letting non residents in? I can't imagine spending two to three weeks in quarantine for four days.

I just got my China visa (90 day stay) and I'm seriously considering not going to the mainland this summer because I don't want to deal with the 14 days hotel quarantine plus seven days medical observation in a designated home address.

https://taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2021/05/18/2003757587

for another month at least. I would expect it to be extended.

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