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I see you have fallen into the stats simulacrum hole if you are willing to learn I think we can lead you out . you have to be brave tho and put aside your grandpa espn ideas about fantasy stats I’m willing to help
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I think Klay and Steph are about equally valuable, which is to say that neither can get to the playoffs without the other even with a perennial DPOY candidate like Green on the court
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May 23, 2021 22:01
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but let’s start from basic principles : when Stephen Curry was tasked to lead a team as its best player he lead that team directly into the draft lottery that is the truth you have to confront first. he is the most responsible person for a team not being good. that happened just this year you can’t ignore it it’s the elephant in the room
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May 23, 2021 22:03
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indigi posted:I think Klay and Steph are about equally valuable, which is to say that neither can get to the playoffs without the other even with a perennial DPOY candidate like Green on the court klay is a two way player and thus by definition more valuable (please refer to my post on style tiers) klay is great offense / great defense Steph is average to good offense / no defense
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May 23, 2021 22:04
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c’mon he’s better than good offense
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here is a thought experiment go back to the beginning of the season and start again except trade Steph Curry for Chris Paul that one change and the warriors are the two seed and Phoenix is out of the playoffs or close to the bottom
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indigi posted:c’mon he’s better than good offense his team - which he lead as the point guard - had the 20th ortg in the league I thought I was being generous with “good”. it’s unclear how valuable his offense is when you consider the whole package . I understand he’s valuable in fantasy but we are talking about real games
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May 23, 2021 22:08
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I think Curry and Zach Lavine are basically interchangeable in terms of value . Zach is a little less refined
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Booker is a much better second option than Steph’s had though
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May 23, 2021 22:10
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what has booker ever done until Chris Paul showed up
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May 23, 2021 22:11
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https://twitter.com/nateduncannba/status/1396574091780399104?s=21 was not expecting this are they playing Harrell too much ?
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May 23, 2021 22:19
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please don’t quote noted herb and dork Nate Duncan
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Chris Paul dragged the thunder to a 44 -28 record last year thunder 22-50 something this year I don’t think it’s Devon booker which makes the suns good
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May 23, 2021 22:22
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i am sorry is a denver nuggets fan talking poo poo? mvp curry kicked rear end you losers
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Judakel posted:i am sorry is a denver nuggets fan talking poo poo? mvp curry kicked rear end you losers lmao
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May 23, 2021 22:29
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https://twitter.com/timbontemps/status/1396558065504342023?s=21
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euphronius posted:but let’s start from basic principles : when Stephen Curry was tasked to lead a team as its best player he lead that team directly into the draft lottery lmao. curry played 5 games in 2019-2020 do you have amnesia interesting how adding curry back almost led them to kick the defending champs out of the playoffs the very next season Yossarian-22 fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 23, 2021 |
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May 23, 2021 22:31
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euphronius posted:I think Curry and Zach Lavine are basically interchangeable in terms of value . Zach is a little less refined Are you kidding me. Zach does way better dunks
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May 23, 2021 22:32
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euphronius posted:I see you have fallen into the stats simulacrum hole grandpa fantasy stats are points and rebounds i prefer the basic observation of "is this team better with this player or without him" which plenty of on/off court stats bear out
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Yossarian-22 posted:lmao. curry played 5 games in 2019-2020 do you have amnesia 2020-21 season just happened if you missed it and a a curry fan then I suggest not catching up he had a disastrous year
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jams
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Yossarian-22 posted:grandpa fantasy stats are points and rebounds i prefer the basic observation of "is this team better with this player or without him" which plenty of on/off court stats bear out in/out of the playoffs seems like even a better stat
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May 23, 2021 22:34
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klay is literally too lazy to have played a game of nba basketball in like 2 years only Jordan was a quitter to his level truely one of the greats
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true heroes of nba basketball Jordan: got lazy for 2 seasons klay: also got lazy for 2 seasons Len bias: just all around lazy
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euphronius posted:in/out of the playoffs seems like even a better stat dwyane wade went 15-67 on the heat in 2007 lebron's lakers missed the playoffs with ingram, an all star, in 2019 dirk was bounced by an 8th seed in 2007
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Bip Roberts posted:klay is literally too lazy to have played a game of nba basketball in like 2 years It's called elite load management
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Yossarian-22 posted:dwyane wade went 15-67 on the heat in 2007 Lebron played like 55 games that year you are going way back before my time on the other stuff no doubt you have lots of grandpa chestnuts like that
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May 23, 2021 22:42
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grandpas complain regularly about how curry has changed the game and made it all about outside shooting and efficiency instead of good old fashioned dunking and handchecking 
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I think you are confused . the game has never been more about dunking than it is today
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I complain like a grandpa about the loving saliva mouth guard just dripping all over the court. absolutely the grossest thing in sports. Disgusting!
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curry is a good role player . I mean you obviously want him on your team as a sniper assuming you can cover his defense which Durant and klay did very well
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espn grandpas love stejph curry and make him an mvp candidate and draft him in all of their fantasy leagues meanwhile, the candidate of youthful thinking, Chris Paul, quietly assassinates the league with little fanfare from the ancient dullards espns hatred of Chris Paul is no doubt related to Paul’s Union leadership role . whereas the poster child of the rentier class in San Franscixo who can only celebrate the simulacrum of success as they have never worked (they have an ideological blindness to defense . they literally can’t see it because it can’t be measured with dashboard apps ) if you are a landlord or manager , Steph Curry is your man euphronius fucked around with this message at 22:55 on May 23, 2021 |
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euphronius posted:espn grandpas love stejph curry and make him an mvp candidate and draft him in all of their fantasy leagues cp3 is no doubt amazing, top 5 pg ever material and he gets stupidly maligned by morons like bill simmons because of never making the finals. plus he is a union man so that automatically makes him the poo poo. i will never forget the clippers series when he bounced san antonio out of the playoffs also i can't respect gsw anymore for abandoning oakland but i still stan curry
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if he makes you feel good subjectively that’s great .
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Yossarian-22 posted:curry smashed okc, which had peak durant, after being down 3-1 and durant's clutch performance was so bad that he joined gsw out of shame the defense on that raptors team was something else. that 26-3 run in game 6 against the bucks was ectasy
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euphronius posted:https://twitter.com/nateduncannba/status/1396574091780399104?s=21 free Marc Gasol
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suns are winning it all book it
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i can't read and i wont learn math, nets winning it all after breaking cp3's back and retiring him. they'll be history's greatest monsters
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euphronius posted:espn grandpas love stejph curry and make him an mvp candidate and draft him in all of their fantasy leagues Loving scabs and strike breakers must be why they like LeBron so much
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LeBron is a chud
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