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V1 Britain was the only PDX AI I ever saw that would consistently transport troops overseas to successfully launch attacks. And they were total bullshit with their gazillion manpower of indian divisions.
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Has there been mention on how war will function? Obviously it's not the focus but having it at least be "not painful" would work for me.
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May 24, 2021 22:12
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You'd think whether it's EU, Victoria or HOI that the AI should be vastly more troublesome then they are, especially where amphibious warfare is considered. Being able to pay attention to multiple fronts simultaniously; able to consistently follow up on island hoping contains, not leaving troops marshalling in the rallying zones (I forget what the word for this is) for too long; being able to accurately judge when to strike with a small force to exploit a gap/weakness and when to strike and follow through with a larger force after preparing for months in advance. I wish the AI could consistently do this.
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May 24, 2021 22:13
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really queer Christmas posted:Has there been mention on how war will function? Obviously it's not the focus but having it at least be "not painful" would work for me. They haven't gone into detail on it, they've said they aren't ready to talk about war yet.
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May 25, 2021 00:00
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For what it's worth, I'm pro adding political parties to the game. Doesn't necessarily have to be on launch but there's a lot of narrative flavor being lost without them. Especially in a nation like the US, where the party system kept evolving for a large chunk of this time period.
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May 25, 2021 00:41
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 I wonder if sliders are gone for other parts of the budget too. And this is from an "economic brochure" that was distributed at PDXCon, Edit: PDX uploaded a scan themselves Communist Zombie fucked around with this message at 00:47 on May 25, 2021 |
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May 25, 2021 00:45
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Vickynomics slides (10 short points about the in-game economy) https://forumcontent.paradoxplaza.com/public/710077/Victoria%203%20-%20Vickynomics.pdf e: posted above
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Mantis42 posted:For what it's worth, I'm pro adding political parties to the game. Doesn't necessarily have to be on launch but there's a lot of narrative flavor being lost without them. Especially in a nation like the US, where the party system kept evolving for a large chunk of this time period. Same. I don't know how you add it on a systems level considering how different their functions are in so many countries (and how many countries lacked them entirely), but it would just feel like something's missing to play as the US and have no political parties present.
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I keep seeing people referencing panels and presentations but when I google around or look on youtube for them I'm only finding videos of people "reacting" to the presentation rather than the footage its self. Is this all from a in-person con that hasn't had its footage released yet?
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May 25, 2021 01:18
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there are no in person cons theres a plague on finishin up but still on
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May 25, 2021 01:21
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:Vickynomics slides (10 short points about the in-game economy) Excited for which contentious real world economic theories/systems paradox ends up implicitly/accidently modeling as correct.  My money is on free trade.
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Raenir Salazar posted:You'd think whether it's EU, Victoria or HOI that the AI should be vastly more troublesome then they are, especially where amphibious warfare is considered. Being able to pay attention to multiple fronts simultaniously; able to consistently follow up on island hoping contains, not leaving troops marshalling in the rallying zones (I forget what the word for this is) for too long; being able to accurately judge when to strike with a small force to exploit a gap/weakness and when to strike and follow through with a larger force after preparing for months in advance. It's such a letdown when I take a few years to get my armies balanced just right, upgrade my border forts, hire a pile of mercenaries, and prepare to face down Mega-France or whatever final boss a game of EU4 has for me and realize it's the last possible chance for me to gently caress up the game but if I take out some loans and call in all my allies and assault all their forts then maybe I can eke out a small victory... ...then my armies march from Antwerp to Lisbon without encountering a single French soldier because they're all having a party in South Africa and Indonesia. e: say what you will for endgame Ottomans but at least their commitment to grind their professionalism to 0 and hire hundreds of mercenaries and spam infantry units makes them go down fighting, versus taking one province in Cornwall then immediately eating all of Britain from the inside while they flail around helplessly. Cockblocktopus fucked around with this message at 01:39 on May 25, 2021 |
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May 25, 2021 01:35
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Baronjutter posted:I keep seeing people referencing panels and presentations but when I google around or look on youtube for them I'm only finding videos of people "reacting" to the presentation rather than the footage its self. Is this all from a in-person con that hasn't had its footage released yet? The footage should be here on their twitch, but dont know how long they'll be kept up
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Raenir Salazar posted:Excited for which contentious real world economic theories/systems paradox ends up implicitly/accidently modeling as correct. 
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Japan is easy mode in V2 and provides the most flexible middle-to-end-game, but my favorite nation to play in Vicky 2 is actually Panjab. They're surrounded by great and minor powers that want to eat them but unlike other classically hopeless unciv starts in similar situations they actually have the starting position to actually succeed without too much absurd luck. Kicking Britain out of India, overwhelming the Ottomans, making a mess of the Russians, you've got decent goals to work towards in every direction. Really I hope Vicky 3 retains that same satisfaction of starting as some backwater nobody respects and turning the tables in the late 18th century through pure diplomatic and economic power 
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What nations are you guys looking forward to playing as for your first few games? I want to do the US first, out of familiarity and interest in 19th century American history. After that I'll probably do a Prussia into Germany or an Italian unification game to experience nation building in Europe. I'd also be interested in doing a Taiping game if that turns out to be viable.
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Mantis42 posted:What nations are you guys looking forward to playing as for your first few games? I want to do the US first, out of familiarity and interest in 19th century American history. After that I'll probably do a Prussia into Germany or an Italian unification game to experience nation building in Europe. I'd also be interested in doing a Taiping game if that turns out to be viable. Just for old time's sake, the first nation I also played in Vicky 2: Brazil.
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May 25, 2021 02:52
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I always enjoyed taking a South American country and turning them into a power - they had so much potential that was ultimately squandered in our own time. There were a bunch of South American wars during the time period: the War of the Confederation, the Paraguayan War, the War of the Pacific, the Chaco War at the very end. Plus intermittent European and of course American interventions for fun. I'll probably try to recreate Gran Colombia as Colombia or Venezuela, or maybe shoot for a Big Argentina. Maybe Paraguay for challenge mode.
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:I always enjoyed taking a South American country and turning them into a power - they had so much potential that was ultimately squandered in our own time. an Argentina game where you don't just not industrialize because of a bunch of agriculture barons would be interesting
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Oh yeah, a Gran Colombia game would be neat too.
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My brain says US, Japan, or uniting Italy My heart however says Long Chile
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:I always enjoyed taking a South American country and turning them into a power - they had so much potential that was ultimately squandered in our own time. My favorite Victoria II game was starting as Chile, conquering a Borneo (or maybe Malay) state, then Oman, and finally colonizing a huge chunk of East Africa before most Europeans had even touched the continent.
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Wiz, what do's/don'ts were learned from the Stellaris buildings/districts/jobs systems?
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Krakow, in a forlorn(?) quest to rebuild the PLC and unpartition Poland.
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I tried playing as Québec, but unfortunately we suck.
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Oh hey actual good question for Wiz: Will the peru-bolivia confederation be modled at game start? Also first game as substate Tibet, you already start pretty tall so it can't be hard to play it ThatBasqueGuy fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 25, 2021 |
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May 25, 2021 03:20
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I think it would be neat to replicate Muhammad Ali's attempts to expand the industry of Egypt.
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May 25, 2021 03:24
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Korea, and try to pull a reverse Japan.
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Mantis42 posted:What nations are you guys looking forward to playing as for your first few games? I want to do the US first, out of familiarity and interest in 19th century American history. After that I'll probably do a Prussia into Germany or an Italian unification game to experience nation building in Europe. I'd also be interested in doing a Taiping game if that turns out to be viable. I always enjoyed two sicilies in vicky 2 so I'm inclined to see how it compares.
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I'm sure I'll change my mind a thousand times between now and whenever this game releases but a relatively chill game as Brazil where I focus on internal development seems appropriate for a first game. After that, maybe I'll try something more challenging, like a Mexico game where I try to hold on to the northern territories.
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Brazil has nostalgia appeal but it might be fun to try and see how disastrous an Ottoman run can be
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Ottomans are my third game, after a Two Sicilies run and a Prussia run. This is the fabled prophecy handed down from Victoria: Revolutions, to Victoria 2, and now to its successor, Victoria: The Third One
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I figure my first game will be the UK, that way failing is even more fun than winning (except in V2 you can literally reduce it to just England and nothing else and it'll still be #1..). And I want to see if they made massive nations fun to play before planning future runs. Maybe USA too though, turning it into a socialist paradise is always cathartic.
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Serbia to Yugoslavia is a fun one in Vicky 2 but also a bit more advanced so I might not do that one until I get a handle on V3's mechanics. I'll probably just end up doing Prussia first since if it's anything like 2, it'll make for a pretty good tutorial nation in that they start off in a great position and have a pretty easy path, but also with enough to do that you actually have some goals to shoot for rather than your nation basically already being "done" (this is why I've never played the UK in Vicky 2. It just sort of seems like they have already won the game?)
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Japan's always a fun one 'cause of how open ended it is. I wonder what options there are for doing right by your colonies if you go communist or anarchist. If you're an anarchist great power, do you still get countries in your sphere of interest and exploit their markets, just for your workers' profit rather than your capitalists? I want to make the Greater East Asia Worker's Co-Prosperity Sphere. It's not something I'd try on a first run, but New England was pretty fun too. At least the way I played it in my favorite game of Vic2. Completely mismanage the US, let the Confederacy go when they try and watch the US completely fall apart. I think it may have been a mod, but basically every state declared independence and I chose New England to play when they broke away. I got some colonies, built a bunch of factories and became a great power around the same time the CSA did. There was a really entertaining Great Game as we both tried to get all the other US states in our spheres, ending with a really uphill war against the much larger but less industrialized CSA.
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I really loved playing Austria-Hungary in V1 and trying to prevent both the German and Italian unifications while trying to keep AH together. Being able to democratize and industrialize effectively without getting bogged down in endless continental wars was always a fun challenge.
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In V3 you should hopefully be able to do German unification as AH, since historically there is a specific moment when German nationalists where between them and Prussia and choose Prussia.
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My most memorable game of Vicky 2 was uniting Italy as the Papal States, so I figure I may give that a go for my first country in 3! I really like the idea of how you can supposedly play tall as a small state, so I’ll likely play as a bunch of tiny European powers for my first few games until I ultimately get frustrated and play as England or the USA.
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Communist Zombie posted:In V3 you should hopefully be able to do German unification as AH, since historically there is a specific moment when German nationalists where between them and Prussia and choose Prussia. You can do this already in V2, it's just a bit of an uphill battle for them because they not only have to beat Prussia in the brother's war, but reduce Prussia to secondary power status so they can sphere them, basically requiring them to use the "Greater Germany" strategy which is optional for Prussia (and it's not like beating Prussia is an easy task on its own).
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I'm going to Civil War the South so hard that the shattered remains of Silent Sam will weep tears of blood. Then I'm going to Reconstruct them via mandatory miscegenation. Then I'm going to create a Stalinist workers state because America can't communist right.
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