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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Buller posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siZXs4d5Gqg

Victoria 3 is straight up ripping off Anno 1800s entire vibe. Even looks like the screen artist is the same.

I was gonna say you're joking but yeah, those screens look straight up out of the background of 1800...and 1404 for that matter.

I mean it's a good look so I can see why they snagged it, and very period appropriate. Of course this is nothing about the actual gameplay.

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Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013


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Alkydere posted:

Yeah, that one brought a huge grin to my face.


At least those non-set items are worth a solid 50 points.

Sure, but once I hit late game influence problems those are the first to go.

Solarflare
Apr 21, 2008
Can anyone give some tips for setting up oil networks? I was really enjoying the game and my enjoyment pretty much ran directly into a brick wall of frustration as soon as I unlocked oil infrastructure.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Solarflare posted:

Can anyone give some tips for setting up oil networks? I was really enjoying the game and my enjoyment pretty much ran directly into a brick wall of frustration as soon as I unlocked oil infrastructure.

3 oil seeps = 1 power plant
1 seep= 1 fuel station = 10 farms

Generally when I deal with oil I make sure to have 3- lane avenues in my city. Clear out the center strip and you have a perfect space for rails later. Make sure you have multiple paths around your island so your trains can try to route around each other.

Also make sure industries buffed by the power plant have an extra fire station or two around them to reduce the chances of fires and explosions.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

How's the new DLC? Any good?

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Jack Trades posted:

How's the new DLC? Any good?

Not out yet. Here's a 15 minute clip from Republic of Play I thought was useful.

https://twitch.tv/videos/1030624913

I had to take a nap after watching, so much stuff!! Plus look at his city, puts to bed any thoughts I ever had of streaming the game.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
I worked all day yesterday and all of this AM to get my save ready for the DLC and it came up and they asked me to confirm the DLC, saying that it wouldn't be added to the save. Apparently I confirmed that I didn't want it, even though I worked my butt off yesterday to get ready. I am very very :sad:

Manyorcas
Jun 16, 2007

The person who arrives last is fined, regardless of whether that person's late or not.

Mayveena posted:

I worked all day yesterday and all of this AM to get my save ready for the DLC and it came up and they asked me to confirm the DLC, saying that it wouldn't be added to the save. Apparently I confirmed that I didn't want it, even though I worked my butt off yesterday to get ready. I am very very :sad:

Try loading the latest autosave from before the patch and see if it asks again? I'm not sure when exactly it asked you that question though.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

Manyorcas posted:

Try loading the latest autosave from before the patch and see if it asks again? I'm not sure when exactly it asked you that question though.

Just started a new save, so I'll keep going. The new tree painter is great, no more waiting for trees to fill in when you want to get lumber. Also the slowest speed is really good as well. Not a pause, but still very slow and you feel like you can handle that pace if that's what you need. I'll keep updating throughout the day as I run into more new stuff.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



AHAHAHAHA, holy poo poo, just got my first unlocked recipe: The Lobster Cheminee!

Takes: Enbessan lobster, tobacco, and Citrus from the New World.
Effect: Reduces beer and chocolate consumption by 5%...and Rum by a whopping 20%

Edit: the recipe page:


I obviously don't have citrus unlocked yet on this game. Also Hotels are basically "Why yes, I would like ALL the money please."

Alkydere fucked around with this message at 20:33 on May 25, 2021

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

I hope some hidden recipies actually influence investor/scholar-goods as well, and not "just" worker/artisan/engineer.
Especially with docklands, getting a 5% reduction in consumption of canned food just won't exite me.
(Like there's not an actor in every town hall anyway).

E: Or is that the different tourist buildings, restaurant for worker/artisan districts, cafes for artisan/enigneer and bars for enigneer/investor?

Caconym fucked around with this message at 22:21 on May 25, 2021

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



The Restaurant, Cafe and Bar are different Tourist buildings that you unlock at various tiers of Tourist population. Each recipe for them takes 3 food goods and then reduces the amount your locals eat of certain food end-items by X percent and gives a small happiness buff.

The Scholars seem unaffected, but Investors most certainly get bonuses for their foods items: mainly champagne and chocolate reductions.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Makes sense, Anno does seem intent on making sure the DLC doesn't mix. Sucks but I prefer it over having parts of the dlc either blocked or useless due to not having the right add on

Gadzuko
Feb 14, 2005

Agean90 posted:

Makes sense, Anno does seem intent on making sure the DLC doesn't mix. Sucks but I prefer it over having parts of the dlc either blocked or useless due to not having the right add on

This dlc is the most interactive they have ever gotten, the botanical garden, palace and docklands all provide big happiness and income boosts to tourists if you have those dlc.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Oh they intentionally did some mixing. Some of the recipes actively require resources from from Enbessa/the Arctic and they're not available unless you have the DLC. It's just that Scholars don't seem to hang out at bars.

Which both makes sense (Enbessa culture doesn't really involve alcohol consumption) and is news to me (based on my own college experiences)

Eschatos
Apr 10, 2013


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Man getting space for all these bus stops is gonna take some rearranging. Especially factoring in that you want restaurants in the middle of population centers so their benefits spread.

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


Do I need the complete edition/certain DLC or is the base game good on its own?

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


a7m2 posted:

Do I need the complete edition/certain DLC or is the base game good on its own?

Base game is good on it's own & would be a good way to figure out if you like the game, but complete edition comes with the y1/y2/y3 dlcs and it's a lot at this point.

Both appear to be on sale right now? (Base 50% off, Complete 35% off?) Not sure what the upgrade options look like if you were to get base then want all the DLC.

A Proper Uppercut
Sep 30, 2008

It's good on it's own, but I recommend the season pass if you can swing it. There's so much good content.

This is assuming you've played some Anno games before and have an idea of what you're getting into.

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


A Proper Uppercut posted:

It's good on it's own, but I recommend the season pass if you can swing it. There's so much good content.

This is assuming you've played some Anno games before and have an idea of what you're getting into.

Thank you! I just got the base game on the Epic store since it was on sale. If I like it I'll get some DLC/season passes.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
Now when I place stuff there's grid lines. What are they there for? Thanks.

Buller
Nov 6, 2010

Mayveena posted:

Now when I place stuff there's grid lines. What are they there for? Thanks.

Service range I think.

Solarflare
Apr 21, 2008
Has anyone seen this in the research screen post-patch? I don't have any research mods or things of that nature so I'm not sure what could have caused this.

SlyFrog
May 16, 2007

What? One name? Who are you, Seal?
Wish they had a better release date for the last DLC than "summer". Want to start playing this again, but would prefer to wait for the final DLC if it is only going to be like a month.

Gadzuko
Feb 14, 2005

SlyFrog posted:

Wish they had a better release date for the last DLC than "summer". Want to start playing this again, but would prefer to wait for the final DLC if it is only going to be like a month.

It definitely won't be a month. Docklands was late February, tourists just came out, I wouldn't expect the next dlc until late July or August.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Also the last DLC is based on investors, gonna want a mature game file to get right into it anyways.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Gadzuko posted:

It definitely won't be a month. Docklands was late February, tourists just came out, I wouldn't expect the next dlc until late July or August.

Where are the developers based out of? If they are European, specifically Nordic or German, I think August is unlikely as I believe lots of places close up shop mostly for vacation in August.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Where are the developers based out of? If they are European, specifically Nordic or German, I think August is unlikely as I believe lots of places close up shop mostly for vacation in August.

Anno's devs are German, yes.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

IncredibleIgloo posted:

Where are the developers based out of? If they are European, specifically Nordic or German, I think August is unlikely as I believe lots of places close up shop mostly for vacation in August.

Keep in mind they are devs not publishers. So ubisoft may get the code before August but we don't see it until August.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Mayveena posted:

Keep in mind they are devs not publishers. So ubisoft may get the code before August but we don't see it until August.

That is true, but I would think they might be reluctant to release anything to a wide audience if support would be limited or non-existent in case of big game breaking bugs they may have missed. Then again, my previous statement is solely based on conversations I had with cool devs at Paradox Con a few years ago, a different company with different ways of doing things. And Paradox day one bugs are typically on a different scale than what I have seen with the Anno series.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



So I love how without Tourist Season you'll build one, MAYBE 2 saltpeter mines on the coast for your niter to make advanced weaponry for the later ships...and maybe to trade with the Docklands. Now that you have Tourists demanding ice-cold lemonade though it takes 4 unpowered saltpeter mines to satisfy one powered chemical plant and Niter is now actually valuable! Also if anyone is curious why the lemonade takes niter: it's to cool it! Water + Saltpeter/Niter = an endothermic reaction that absorbs heat. It's not going into the lemonade at all (which is good because it's toxic) but is being used to make cold baths to chill the stuff where its served.

But yes, very much for low-use ingredients getting new uses.

Also I'm so very amused that of the 4 recipes the arctic DLC adds, there's one recipe that uses whale oil (the Tourist lady straight up calls it "lantern oil"), and another for the Iron Tower that uses natural gas as ingredients. Also the Iron Tower is a shockingly cheap monument.

junidog
Feb 17, 2004

Alkydere posted:

Also if anyone is curious why the lemonade takes niter: it's to cool it! Water + Saltpeter/Niter = an endothermic reaction that absorbs heat. It's not going into the lemonade at all (which is good because it's toxic) but is being used to make cold baths to chill the stuff where its served.

That's fascinating - I was definitely originally horrified by the recipe.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR

IncredibleIgloo posted:

That is true, but I would think they might be reluctant to release anything to a wide audience if support would be limited or non-existent in case of big game breaking bugs they may have missed. Then again, my previous statement is solely based on conversations I had with cool devs at Paradox Con a few years ago, a different company with different ways of doing things. And Paradox day one bugs are typically on a different scale than what I have seen with the Anno series.

Yeah surprised the Paradox devs ever get a break.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


How do I use a consumable item in my town hall? I’ve left clicked on it, right clicked on it, tried to drag it back to the harbor etc. but it won’t get out my danged town hall!

Also why am I all the sudden losing piles of money about the time I get engineers? I’m doing alright by selling soap and fir coats, but I wish that red number didn’t always say -5000

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

How do I use a consumable item in my town hall? I’ve left clicked on it, right clicked on it, tried to drag it back to the harbor etc. but it won’t get out my danged town hall!

Also why am I all the sudden losing piles of money about the time I get engineers? I’m doing alright by selling soap and fir coats, but I wish that red number didn’t always say -5000

Have you built any of the new engineer tier factories? That tier has a pretty big leap in maintenance costs, steam engine factories especially

Also make sure you have enough rum flowing to you old world/trelawny islands, that'll tank your income quickly.

Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
Rum and coffee will get you every time.

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

How do I use a consumable item in my town hall? I’ve left clicked on it, right clicked on it, tried to drag it back to the harbor etc. but it won’t get out my danged town hall!

Also why am I all the sudden losing piles of money about the time I get engineers? I’m doing alright by selling soap and fir coats, but I wish that red number didn’t always say -5000

For the consumables, once they are activated they will stay in that slot until the timer expires, as far as I know.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Engineer is when you have to go wide for a while, their stuff pays off but the initial investments are harsh.

Anyway Tourist season is here :toot:, so ofc I instead spend all my time making a self sufficient Island:

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


I've been hooked on this all weekend and thought I was by far the ruler of the world until I bought out one of Beryl O'Mara's new world islands and she declared war on me, wrecked all my complex trade routes, stole a bunch of my undefended islands, and I don't see any way of defeating her despite my massive economy and don't feel like setting up all those trade routes again etc. so I guess I'll start a new game without her, lol. Who's the least warlike level 2 AI?

I'm pretty new to this and think I tend to waaaaay overproduce everything (except coastal defenses!) to make mountains of soap and fur coats and guns to sell to the AI. Is it better to stay pretty lean and only make exactly what you need? I notice the AI islands have waaaaay less stuff on them than mine but they still have investors etc-do they get free resources and stuff, or do I just not actually need 14 soap makers (and the army of workers that requires)to sell soap to Eli. Is there an actually good wiki/strategy guide? The fandom one is sort of OK but it's no paradox wiki.

What's the deal with influence and how do I earn more of it? Finding out harbor defenses cost influence in the middle of a war when I had finally convoyed some guns to far flung islands was quite a shock.

What DLC do I turn off to turn off Trelawney? Will I lose much else? I have Sunken Treasures, Docklands, and Bright Harvest. Expeditions don't interest me much in general and are kind of distracting-Are any of the other DLCs more focused on the old world/new world?

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Mayveena
Dec 27, 2006

People keep vandalizing my ID photo; I've lodged a complaint with HR
I don't play with AI's, only with the trading ones. It's way better to me, noting that you could miss out on some specialists, but really with scholars who cares?

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