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OtspIII posted:This is almost certainly what was happening, thanks! Should be a big filter menu to the right of the spell learning. If you want types like nukes and debuffs then yeah... that'd be nice too.
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rift wizard is very overwhelming but i like looking at all the cool spells and skills to theorycraft dumb poo poo to do
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My recent big learning is holding 'alt' when looking at entering the next realm or even moving in some instances. It shows you all tiles that are able to be attacked by enemies and can be a huge boon when deciding where to enter a level. I'm still new enough that I don't know what 'works' in most situations yet, but I'm really enjoying choosing my first spell based on what the first set of portals has on offer (i.e. if there's a lightning circle in one of the first realms, I choose lightning as my first spell). I'm more consistently now making it to realm 10+ and have now had a couple of builds get into the high teens. My current build is kicking a lot of rear end and is currently realm 12 so fingers crossed it's able to keep going.
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basically my approach is to pick two elements and experiment, that way you're looking for the specific synergy that overlaps between two specializations instead of trying to grapple with the entire spell list and getting overwhelmed i've tried both running with whatever elements the game gives shrines for and forcing a build and to the game's credit both approaches work quite well. you just have to be flexible about the order of your build in the latter case -- floating a few skill points and filling in a bunch of cheap upgrades at a shrine is far more efficient than discounting a big upgrade by a single point, so you might as well buy those big upgrades after a Ruby Heart level and only "lose" a single point
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I don't know much about how to synergize builds yet but but Death Shock is great - split dark/lightning damage and if it kills the target is cascades to another within 4 tiles, up to 3 times. You can upgrade it to remove the cascade limit and to double the cascade range. The damage is high enough that through a lot of the early game it will one-shot most enemies, so if a room is packed enough with enemies that aren't immune to lightning/dark you can sometimes wipe out the entire room with a single Death Shock. Upgraded Death Shock + Magic Missile is enough to handle the first ~10 floors on their own a lot of the time which gives you a lot of breathing room to save SP and build around shrines.
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deep dish peat moss posted:I don't know much about how to synergize builds yet but but Death Shock is great - split dark/lightning damage and if it kills the target is cascades to another within 4 tiles, up to 3 times. You can upgrade it to remove the cascade limit and to double the cascade range. The damage is high enough that through a lot of the early game it will one-shot most enemies, so if a room is packed enough with enemies that aren't immune to lightning/dark you can sometimes wipe out the entire room with a single Death Shock. the game's progression is incredibly clever in this respect: you've got about 5-10 levels (depending on the raw strength of your chosen element[s]) where playing "normally" is actually stronger and more reliable than trying to build a combo without the SP to support it then another 5-10 levels where you need to start developing synergies but you're still engaging with positioning and the tactical layer a lot rather than an explosive win condition then the last few levels (20-24 or so) are just brutally unfair to the point where wiping them out with some non-interactive bullshit just feels like fair play, plus this stage of the game is usually quite short so you don't have time to get bored and then the final boss is a radically different challenge than anything else in the game and requires you to put some extra thought into how to make sure your degenerate combo stays relevant there's still a little hint of the traditional roguelike inverted difficulty curve at work but it's smooth and intentional rather than the game simply giving no thought to what happens if the player actually optimizes their approach. it's a game that's unabashedly designed for mastery and i love it for that
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May 25, 2021 03:23
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it's fun to get a skill like storm caller and just have waves of bullshit start spawning all over half the map from a single cast of lightning bolt or whatever. like maybe it might not be the most EFFECTIVE thing at that moment but the game does a good job of making it apparent you're pulling off some wild poo poo. unlike, say, tome4, where everything just kinda bleeds together into a smear. the readability is a huge positive in rift wizard.
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Man this game really is a wild mix of "Oh wow my spells can do THAT? drat this is great I'm immortal!" and "Oh that's what that enemy does? He...counters my entire kit" It's a blast so far
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Unexplored 2 is pretty and charming, but I've not got very far into it yet. Hoping one of the characters you can unlock has a spear, the loading screen tips make them sound fun. So far the only additional class I've unlocked uses a bow and clubs.
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May 25, 2021 16:58
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StarCrawlers Chimera has a Kickstarter up also a playable demo on steam highlights: select 7 out of 25 skill trees for your character, the lowest difficulty is called "2020 mode", it's turn-based grid-based combat, it's pretty sick so far tbh
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I should try that demo, I ended up bounching off og starcrawlers hard but this does look intersting.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:StarCrawlers Chimera has a Kickstarter up Man there really aren't enough cyberpunk games out there. Gonna check this out.
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's fun to get a skill like storm caller and just have waves of bullshit start spawning all over half the map from a single cast of lightning bolt or whatever. like maybe it might not be the most EFFECTIVE thing at that moment but the game does a good job of making it apparent you're pulling off some wild poo poo. unlike, say, tome4, where everything just kinda bleeds together into a smear. the readability is a huge positive in rift wizard. i played rift wizard for the first time this morning and in about 6 tries i was able to beat the game literally just using the level 1 Lightning bolt spell and that one holy spell that heals you because for some reason one of the lightning skills causes random enemies on the map to go berserk whenever you do basically anything. i would just teleport into the safest corner on the map, hit one enemy with lightning bolt and watch as a riot started and all the enemies broke their own spawners and then killed themselves. then i got to the last boss and melted him because it also did 100+ damage per shot in 3 different damage types and could fire up to 10 times per cast, and also stunned and left DOT storm clouds this is a level 1 spell, you can start the game with this and have it at approaching maximum power by like the 8th floor, leaving you with 15 floors worth of points to dump into the spell that full heals on cast while also stunning and damaging most of the enemies on the entire map, and also is a lightning/holy spell for some reason so it benefits from all the skills you already took for the Riot Beam. then all you have to do is pick floors that have mana potions and ruby hearts because every mana potion now also comes with 6 full heals so no other item is at all relevant
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Meanwhile I haven't made it past level six or seven yet, I think I'm spreading my SP too thin but I have no real clue
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I feel like y’all would appreciate this article on the level generator: https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/DylanWhite/20200918/370397/Generating_Cool_Levels_for_Rift_Wizard.php (Or at least what it was in 2020) Definitely not a process which ever would have occurred to me, and some parts seem like they are in there mostly for fun, but cool to learn about!
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you were right, that's really cool i like that the mutator concept gives the dev carte blanche to write silly algorithms in the name of randomness. never expected to see Conway's used for the task, that's for sure
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I'm guessing the infinite arcane combo is Glittering Dance + Devour Mind to recharge Teleport, then Arcane Accounting + Teleport to recharge your non-arcane spells, rinse and repeat as long as you have valid Devour Mind targets and a strong non-Arcane nuke to recharge?
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DACK FAYDEN posted:StarCrawlers Chimera has a Kickstarter up Did anyone like the first Starcralwers? Despite it looking very snazzy in demos and gfx the actual gameplay was super grindy and shallow and put me off after only a few hours. Serephina fucked around with this message at 01:58 on May 26, 2021 |
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May 26, 2021 01:52
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i liked a lot of ideas it had and it was fun how you could just directly call up all the corps but actually playing it wasn't great yeahhhh
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i actually played all the way through starcrawlers and i hope the devs learned how to improve the things that were not fun about it, because the core of a great game was there
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DACK FAYDEN posted:StarCrawlers Chimera has a Kickstarter up I submitted this as feedback but this is a really awkward game to play. Freelook doesn't have limits so if you scroll far enough you start wrapping around. Strafing is based on true-north orientation instead of where you're facing, so if you're facing south and strafe "left", you'll move to your right instead. There's a bunch of other UX stuff like this that really prevents me from getting into the game.
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Died on floor 24 of Rift Wizard because I accidentally clicked a portal instead of the health potion in a nearby tile  Entered the floor with no healing and 15 health.
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Count Uvula posted:Died on floor 24 of Rift Wizard because I accidentally clicked a portal instead of the health potion in a nearby tile you can hit esc after clicking a portal but before choosing a destination to bail out I'm looking through the spell list for Lightning and not seeing any particularly interesting combos - but then I've never been too good at hunting that sort of thing in games Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 15:27 on May 26, 2021 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:I submitted this as feedback but this is a really awkward game to play. Freelook doesn't have limits so if you scroll far enough you start wrapping around. Strafing is based on true-north orientation instead of where you're facing, so if you're facing south and strafe "left", you'll move to your right instead. There's a bunch of other UX stuff like this that really prevents me from getting into the game.
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RoboCicero posted:I'm guessing the infinite arcane combo is Glittering Dance + Devour Mind to recharge Teleport, then Arcane Accounting + Teleport to recharge your non-arcane spells, rinse and repeat as long as you have valid Devour Mind targets and a strong non-Arcane nuke to recharge? I just used Magic Missile, it doesn't matter whether you can actually go "infinite" or not, and more importantly Devour Mind requires a target (not just a living target, even, you literally can't cast it at nothing) and Magic Missile doesn't.
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i'm finding myself very annoyed by rift wizard's enemy design now. The riot beam worked really well because as far as I can tell nothing is resistant to both holy and lightning and berserk works on seemingly every enemy and because it has multiple damage instances it blows straight through shields. Any other build I try ends up with me fighting enemies that have 100% resistance to all of my damage types and being completely unable to harm them, or if I diversify then my spells aren't actually powerful enough to keep up. Like there's a fairly simple Dark/Arcane build that lets you clear entire maps in 2 casts with a spell that deals hundreds of damage and cascades infinitely with an 8 tile range and spawns minions whenever it kills something, but which gets completely shutdown by the loads of enemies which are totally immune to Dark or anything that has multiple shields. You can cherry-pick the floors you travel to so that they don't contain enemies like that but eventually you end up running into a level where all your choices are bad and then you just lose.
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fire / ice builds (e.g. my first win) work for similar reasons but i'm pretty sure the intended experience is actually the one where you sometimes have to deal with enemies that are immune to your primary combo i hit dungeon 24 with a lightning spells only build (e.g. i had the lightning spells that also do dark and fire damage but that was it in terms of splash elements) and only died because i was badly sleep deprived and entered the wrong rift by mistake, so it's definitely possible, you just have to slow down and play tactically instead of coasting on combo power
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cock hero flux posted:i played rift wizard for the first time this morning and in about 6 tries i was able to beat the game literally just using the level 1 Lightning bolt spell and that one holy spell that heals you because for some reason one of the lightning skills causes random enemies on the map to go berserk whenever you do basically anything. i would just teleport into the safest corner on the map, hit one enemy with lightning bolt and watch as a riot started and all the enemies broke their own spawners and then killed themselves. Oh wow, you weren't joking--I tried this build out and hit 20 for the first time. One thing I didn't realize immediately was that the 'these attacks also do element X and element Y' upgrades are actually damage multipliers instead of just ways to get around resistances. That changes how I look at the basic attacks a lot. Also, learning that I could filter spells and skills has made this game so much easier to read. I can't believe I didn't realize I could do that before
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May 26, 2021 18:51
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A way to see what spell upgrades do without having to learn the spell would be nice
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Rift wizard needs a food clock real bad imo, I just spent like 500 turns waiting for troublers to blink into range of me.
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Looks like someone isn't getting a high score 
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remember, don't shoot food
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Does anyone know if Deep Sky Derelicts is any good? It is 75% off right now. Also could someone weigh in about the DLC?
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Yay, my first win in Rift Wizard. Was a pretty broken build focused on Lightning / Holy damage with Heaven's Wrath nuking half the level on 2 casts, and chain/arc lightning finishing off the rest. Killed Mordred with tons of consumables still sitting in my inventory 
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May 27, 2021 00:50
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Helical Nightmares posted:Does anyone know if Deep Sky Derelicts is any good? It is 75% off right now. It's aggressively adequate. 75% off is the right price.
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PotatoManJack posted:Yay, my first win in Rift Wizard. Was a pretty broken build focused on Lightning / Holy damage with Heaven's Wrath nuking half the level on 2 casts, and chain/arc lightning finishing off the rest. Killed Mordred with tons of consumables still sitting in my inventory grats. can i ask how you spent your SP along the way?
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nrook posted:Rift wizard needs a food clock real bad imo, I just spent like 500 turns waiting for troublers to blink into range of me.
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Helical Nightmares posted:Does anyone know if Deep Sky Derelicts is any good? It is 75% off right now. Deep Sky Derelicts is sort of a weird hybrid between darkest dungeon and card quest (that's not exact but it's the best way I can think of to link it to other games). You have a party that's consistent between adventures, but combat is card based and most cards are based on your parties current equipment. I've never gotten super into it but also keep going back every so often, it does what it sets out to do and I don't regret the money I spent. I don't know that I've ever not had the DLC though so I can't weigh in on that specifically.
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Ciaphas posted:grats. can i ask how you spent your SP along the way? I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure it went Lit Bolt -> Arc Lit -> Lit Bolt Upgrades (charges, judge bolt, damage, range later) -> Heaven's Wrath -> Arc/Wrath upgrades (not sure which ones, but culling for wrath was pretty early) -> support skills -> MM because I needed something to kill nests that didn't use up my valuable charges -> Chain Lit -> more skills and Chain Lit upgrades. If I were to do it again, I'd get Chain Lit sooner as it became my bread and butter map nuker after Heaven's Wrath had made clouds everywhere. My normal process on entering a level would be Heaven's Wrath x 2, Lit Bolt to give myself Lightning Resist, then Chain Lightning which would arc around the whole map (including myself) and fry everything. Shock Value was super useful as well, as it made half the level berserk after Heaven's Wrath killed all the weak monsters PotatoManJack fucked around with this message at 03:04 on May 27, 2021 |
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I'm on floor 20 in a run where I took every level 1 spell, then Cantrip Cascade, and proceeded to upgrade the poo poo out of all my cantrips. The only other spells I have are utility stuff. I picked up the skill that buffs all Sorcery spells and the one that gives you a shield when you cast Arcane spells. I'm basically toting around an explosive wizard shotgun that gives me super armour. I can delete minibosses such as enemy wizards and monster kings in one, maybe two cascades. I constantly blow myself the gently caress up and "Player" is invariably the highest source of damage to me after a floor is done. This game loving rules
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