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Technowolf posted:Especially in a 2-3 hour movie Maybe the Eternals movie is ultimately just a big pilot for the Eternals Disney+ TV series?
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Jac Schaeffer signed a three year deal with Marvel Studiis to develop TV shows, presumably about Mephisto.
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May 26, 2021 21:58
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who said Mephisto
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May 26, 2021 22:04
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https://youtu.be/tWm7tz2TOV0
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May 26, 2021 22:23
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I suspect that the structure of the movie will be shifting back and forth from the ancient past and the present when they have amnesia. Kind of Hitchcokian in that the audience knows the future shlubs are actually demigods and the driving mystery being what diminished them and the anticipation for when they get their powers and memories back.
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May 26, 2021 22:35
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Is there anything substantial at all to suggest that they have amnesia other than rumors someone heard somewhere? The trailer makes no indication of that at all.
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May 26, 2021 22:47
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BrianWilly posted:Is there anything substantial at all to suggest that they have amnesia other than rumors someone heard somewhere? The trailer makes no indication of that at all. People are speculating based purely on the comics where this is the case.
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The idea seems to go against everything we're being told and shown though. The scene of the Eternals as a group sitting down to a shared meal obviously doesn't take place at a moment of high stakes or anything far into the film and is presumably closer to the beginning for instance, and they all seem like they're aware of not just each other but each other's powers and capabilities to say that Ikaris is joking about leading the Eternals. Several of the character bios also make no sense if they are talking about people who have amnesia. Kingo being a Bollywood star because he's become obsessed with fame doesn't really make sense if he's just someone who fell into that life because that's all he knows, and really only makes sense for that character if he's aware of himself and choosing that lifestyle. Sersi being described as someone "posing" as a museum curator is worded such that she seems completely aware of herself too, and only living that life by choice rather than because she knows no other. You also have Druig described as having become estranged from the Eternals because of a difference in ideals. A description that doesn't make sense if they all have amnesia, since he wouldn't know the other Eternals to be consciously estranged from them.
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May 26, 2021 23:45
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Sersi is a museum curator? Like Wonder Woman?
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May 27, 2021 00:06
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Do Eternals do sex?
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May 27, 2021 00:11
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Yeah but only like Sting.
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May 27, 2021 00:18
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live with fruit posted:Sersi is a museum curator? Like Wonder Woman? Hopefully she does a better job of it than Diana, and doesn't allow artifacts to be stolen, help her boyfriend steal from museums and get her hands on ancient artifacts she just keeps in a corner under some blankets. But yes, a bio that surfaced a while ago heavily implies she's posing (or at least, has posed) as a museum curator. A lot of the stuff there matches the stuff on that Twitter thread that was posted here just after the trailer dropped; some of them are basically identical (bar better English). Sersi's bio in particular reads: "Sersi is the Eternal with an affinity for humanity. Sersi is as happy working as a museum curator as she is saving humans from the threat of the Deviants. Sersi has the ability to manipulate matter, changing the makeup of any non-sentient material she touches. She's also been in love with Ikaris for centuries, and helps him to recruit the Eternals for one last mission." A lot of them talk about battling Deviants, who are apparently the Eternal's classic enemy and so the film probably has them as at least nominal enemies even if some internal conflict or whatever ends up as being more important to the characters overall. As is, I don't think we've gotten any information on Deviants at all. Not even people playing them. Apparently three actors are noted as having been cast in undisclosed roles, so they may be playing Deviants but the lack of material building them up as a threat at least suggests some internal strife will be of greater consequence in the movie. tsob fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 27, 2021 |
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May 27, 2021 00:18
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I actually hope they reference all the "Proof Nicolas Cage is a vampire!!!" clickbait memes with the Bollywood actor except instead of a Civil War guy who vaguely looks like him it actually is a picture of him from a century ago.
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May 27, 2021 00:27
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Casnorf posted:Yeah but only like Sting.  
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May 27, 2021 00:41
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That is the best possible response to that gag.
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May 27, 2021 01:04
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That trailer looks gorgeous, love the cast, and it has no buzz. No conflict. A bad joke at the end of the trailer. I'm sure it will make a billion dollars.
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What’s weird is how Kumail Nanjiani already burned through his hardcore meme status like a year too early. He was literally the main character of social media for a day or two when his abs leaked… and there was the weekend where pornhub changed the image on their “Hunks” tab to him https://twitter.com/kumailn/status/1206973415090991105?s=21
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May 27, 2021 01:26
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LionArcher posted:That trailer looks gorgeous, love the cast, and it has no buzz. No conflict. A bad joke at the end of the trailer. I'm sure it will make a billion dollars. Marvel has called it a teaser trailer, so there'll presumably be at least one more "actual" trailer, that I expect would have more plot relevant details and hints at the overall conflict in it.
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May 27, 2021 01:33
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Cage Kicker posted:Do Eternals do sex? I don't think they're gonna introduce Eros/Starfox these days. Wee problem with his power set.
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Kammat posted:I don't think they're gonna introduce Eros/Starfox these days. Wee problem with his power set. Awwww, no Sex Thanos?
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May 27, 2021 01:47
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tsob posted:Marvel has called it a teaser trailer, so there'll presumably be at least one more "actual" trailer, that I expect would have more plot relevant details and hints at the overall conflict in it. Oh for sure. Betting against marvel is like betting against Lebron James. It’s not a good idea. Just an odd teaser.
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Kammat posted:I don't think they're gonna introduce Eros/Starfox these days. Wee problem with his power set. They made it work for Purple Man. Mind you, he was a villain. A particularly vile villain. Really though, any telepath is basically capable of the same thing at the end of the day. Not that I'd miss Eros, since I don't recall any stories where he was a standout character (though it's also not like I've read much that includes him), but the ethical ramifications are there with other characters who are accepted despite (or because in Purple Man's case) of it. If Eros was gonna show up anywhere I'd imagine it'd be She Hulk, so that the ramifications can be explored. I think that even happened in one of the comics, actually. LionArcher posted:Oh for sure. Betting against marvel is like betting against Lebron James. It’s not a good idea. I think it's fine as a teaser to introduce the core characters, which is basically all it's doing. I find it more puzzling no-one has been announced as playing a Deviant only a few months out from release honestly. tsob fucked around with this message at 01:53 on May 27, 2021 |
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May 27, 2021 01:51
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tsob posted:They made it work for Purple Man. Mind you, he was a villain. A particularly vile villain. Really though, any telepath is basically capable of the same thing at the end of the day. Not that I'd miss Eros, since I don't recall any stories where he was a standout character (though it's also not like I've read much that includes him), but the ethical ramifications are there with other characters who are accepted despite (or because in Purple Man's case) of it. If Eros was gonna show up anywhere I'd imagine it'd be She Hulk, so that the ramifications can be explored. I think that even happened in one of the comics, actually. Quite a ways upthread while WandaVision was airing, some people likened Wanda to the kid from that Twilight Zone episode who sent people to the cornfield. I think Kilgrave/Purple Man is a better example, though. Wanda, for all her denial of increasingly obvious truths, was still an adult. She could still care about people as people. Kilgrave's powers apparently manifested when he was eight years old. Given their nature, he never had to really develop empathy emotional maturity or morality beyond that level. People were objects to Kilgrave. Objects that provided food, shelter, sex (or other "entertainment") but they weren't people. And as objects they were utterly disposable. One thing that was interesting and terrifying about Kilgrave is how traditional villain motives were irrelevant to him. Getting money? Gaining power? In the end his "villain plot" was to reclaim Jessica - like an angry, selfish little boy who wanted his "toy" to work properly. Everyone fucked around with this message at 16:20 on May 27, 2021 |
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Kammat posted:I don't think they're gonna introduce Eros/Starfox these days. Wee problem with his power set. And we all know from SSB that Starfox is way too strong. Everyone posted:Kilgore's powers apparently manifested when he was eight years old. Given their nature, he never had to really develop empathy emotional maturity or morality beyond that level. People were objects to Kilgore. Objects that provided food, shelter, sex (or other "entertainment") but they weren't people. And as objects they were utterly disposable. One thing that was interesting and terrifying about Kilgore is how traditional villain motives were irrelevant to him. Getting money? Gaining power? In the end his "villain plot" was to reclaim Jessica - like an angry, selfish little boy who wanted his "toy" to work properly. Do you mean Killgrave? Because there's still a character named Kilgore in Marvel comics but he's just a minor X-Men villain. Floppychop fucked around with this message at 05:11 on May 27, 2021 |
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May 27, 2021 05:06
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Kammat posted:I don't think they're gonna introduce Eros/Starfox these days. Wee problem with his power set. There’s actually a rumour going round that he’s going to be played by Harry Styles, and may actually be a cameo in Eternals.
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May 27, 2021 07:11
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LionArcher posted:Just an odd teaser. Not really, it's pretty standard Hollywood/Marvel practice. First you make a teaser that just shows a few random clip, then after that you get the teaser trailer that gives a vague outline of who the characters are but doesn't reveal what the movie will be about, and then finally you get the proper trailer. (Then you have several more trailers after that, but they aren't as important) The movie is coming out in november, it's much too early for us to get the main trailer, and it would be bad business for interest in the movie to peak now.
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There are still two movies, and probably three shows, coming out before Eternals. It's still relatively far away.
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The head writer of Wandavision just signed a 3-year deal to make undisclosed Marvel TV projects for Disney + and 20th Century TV projects for all platforms. Sounds like the D+ portion of the MCU will continue in some form. They ruled out season 2 of Wandavision, so it isn't that.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The head writer of Wandavision just signed a 3-year deal to make undisclosed Marvel TV projects for Disney + and 20th Century TV projects for all platforms. hope they figure out denouement before filming starts
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May 27, 2021 14:52
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Floppychop posted:Do you mean Killgrave? Because there's still a character named Kilgore in Marvel comics but he's just a minor X-Men villain. Yeah, I meant Kilgrave. It's been a while since I've seen Jessica Jones. Everyone fucked around with this message at 16:21 on May 27, 2021 |
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May 27, 2021 16:18
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https://twitter.com/marvel/status/1397987461238648832
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May 27, 2021 20:08
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That makes me a little more hopeful that we get something like classic Moonknight, and not guy in a white suit.
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May 27, 2021 20:30
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Well, know it's 100% official.  neat!
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Oasx posted:That makes me a little more hopeful that we get something like classic Moonknight, and not guy in a white suit. Actually, I'm hoping that we get all of it, and the crazier the better.
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May 27, 2021 21:55
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A couple more of new shots in this ad for Loki. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgKNTA_CvO4
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May 27, 2021 22:06
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New Disney + Black Panther Series announced. Very few details out, but so far: - Ryan Coogler is producing and directing. - Danai Gurira is confirmed and Okeye will be a primary character. - It will take place in Wakanda. - Release date will most likely be late 2023/early 2024. https://collider.com/black-panther-tv-show-cast-danai-gurira-okoye/
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:New Disney + Black Panther Series announced. Oh, interesting. For some reason I figured it was getting folded into BP2. More Wakanda though!
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Okoye becoming the focal point of the Black Panther franchise is great and well deserved but also I gotta wonder if this is Shuri if Wright doesn't implode on Twitter.
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May 28, 2021 14:35
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live with fruit posted:Okoye becoming the focal point of the Black Panther franchise is great and well deserved but also I gotta wonder if this is Shuri if Wright doesn't implode on Twitter. Black folks' opinions and who gets to be a role model being carefully pruned and shaped like a bonsai tree by DisneyCIA. Representation politics is a trojan horse.
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live with fruit posted:Okoye becoming the focal point of the Black Panther franchise is great and well deserved but also I gotta wonder if this is Shuri if Wright doesn't implode on Twitter. I had to look up what you were referencing since I don't follow celebrities at all. Wright is an anti-vaxxer? I know minorities have more of a reason to be hesitant about government sponsored vaccinations, but still.
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