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munce posted:There's ex cia directors literally saying it could be aliens. Words like extra terrestrial, non-human technology etc are appearing all over the news reports so it's definitely being pushed as an angle. No empire plans for the day it’s going to collapse. In the 50s, the only weird craft that could possibly be seen anywhere in the US were experimental US craft. They’re probably a good ten years behind on detecting foreign or non-state drones because realizing you can’t dominate your own airspace is probably really humbling if your whole thing is force projection and dominance. It’s doubly ironic because the pentagon simultaneously encouraged people to believe in ufos while bullying anyone who saw anything that could then be seen to be a ufo as disinfo to protect their secret projects. Just one more iteration in the proud US tradition of creating its own worst enemies.
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May 29, 2021 04:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpeSpA3e56A This is a nice little video about the navy videos with some animations in it
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May 29, 2021 05:31
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i am harry posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpeSpA3e56A have been sending this vid to my friends. something about the animations scares me more than when i just think about what happened abstractly.
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May 29, 2021 05:34
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Hatebag posted:Sociopaths and narcissists take over every hierarchy in every human society, and that's why humans are doomed, because sociopaths and narcissists are only concerned with themselves and their families, who they view as possessions. They only serve themselves so they destroy the societies they lead eventually. Human societies that don't have hierarchy collapse or accomplish nothing. TRUPm
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May 29, 2021 05:43
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Bilirubin posted:TRUPm tic tac Toop
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May 29, 2021 05:48
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Ross DaouThot posted:100 years beyond our tech capabilities is better than 1000! by next week we might have an explanation that involves 2040ish tech and I still won't have 5G 
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May 29, 2021 05:51
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Crow Zone posted:Anyone who tries to explain to me why this isn’t aliens is ruining my day please stop aliens are definitely real
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May 29, 2021 06:01
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Carl Von Awesomwitz posted:man there have been a few too many reports of clearly physical craft straight up burning people and giving them radiation poisoning for me to buy the idea that its all a fancy gigawatt light show All that tells me it's spaceships. All the descriptions, of the insane speeds and impossible maneuvers that would just destroy even theoretical craft, to say nothing of anyone on board, tells me it's an image reflected or projected in some way. Maybe a satellite with the ability to do it, or a nearby stealth aircraft or ship (although what's "nearby" when the radar images are pinging from state to state). e unfortunate coincidence that I always misread it as "crash-landium"? It's not up to me to decide
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May 29, 2021 06:07
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i am harry posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpeSpA3e56A Yeah pro click, i can't say it looks a lot like the tech demo I posted back there
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May 29, 2021 06:13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-usFeWJ94Ak&t=179s
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May 29, 2021 06:22
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i am harry posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpeSpA3e56A drat I didn't make the connection that the December 2017 NYT video was from ATS in 2007. I bet I saw it roughly when it was originally posted there, because I'd periodically check that for fun. crazy.
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May 29, 2021 06:22
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Nichael posted:drat I didn't make the connection that the December 2017 NYT video was from ATS in 2007. I bet I saw it roughly when it was originally posted there, because I'd periodically check that for fun. crazy. I posted about this earlier in this thread but ATS has turned into full right-wing q bullshit and its sad, as someone who used to post there in the 2000s and argue with John Lear about how no, there aren't actually alien or human bases on Venus and Neptune he's probably right tho hahaha
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May 29, 2021 06:56
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my newest hypothesis is that this recent UFO kick is to encourage scrappy startups to team up with SpaceX to design and deploy the first lunar dogecoin mining rig
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May 29, 2021 06:59
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my bony fealty posted:I posted about this earlier in this thread but ATS has turned into full right-wing q bullshit and its sad, as someone who used to post there in the 2000s and argue with John Lear about how no, there aren't actually alien or human bases on Venus and Neptune qanon is so much more boring than aliens
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May 29, 2021 07:10
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The part of that animation where the tic tac looking object moves around above turbulent water made me think of this https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/articles/year-2018/magnetic-surgery.html
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May 29, 2021 07:12
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gently caress you all for talking about plasma balls, the only balls I acknowledge are the balls rolling off cliffs
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May 29, 2021 07:18
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Paradoxish posted:We've got plenty of history to understand how secret projects work in the US, though i mean isn't the occam's razor here just... that it's done being tested and moving towards deployment? the f-117 was a secret, and then it got a national television debut like that is what is going on here, no? lockheed has been working on some secret something with all the money we're told is to fix this fighter that turned out lovely for some reason. it's now mature technology after a secret flight test program, now they're doing more wide-ranging tests against other equipment in the us inventory, and some suit had the bright idea that spinning up lots of hype about aliens is cheaper recruitment buzz than making a new transformers film biden will do a press conference in front of one and make a lovely joke about how old cars are still cooler or whatever
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May 29, 2021 07:51
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err posted:gently caress you all for talking about plasma balls, the only balls I acknowledge are the balls rolling off cliffs you have to acknowledge pig balls as well, c’mon 
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May 29, 2021 07:54
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err posted:gently caress you all for talking about plasma balls, the only balls I acknowledge are the balls rolling off cliffs Crow Zone posted:Anyone who tries to explain to me why this isn’t aliens is ruining my day please stop 
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May 29, 2021 08:12
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HookedOnChthonics posted:i mean isn't the occam's razor here just... that it's done being tested and moving towards deployment? the f-117 was a secret, and then it got a national television debut Nah, not for literally decades while concurrently developing the operating current and next gen conventional aircraft among 50 other reasons
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May 29, 2021 09:22
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I'm going to be dissapointed if i never get to kill a sectoid with a cricket bat
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May 29, 2021 10:14
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Nichael posted:qanon is so much more boring than aliens well tbf since qanon is based on a fundamental truth (politicians form an international cabal of pedophiles) there isnt as much room for fun like aliens
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May 29, 2021 10:19
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*** Upcoming events alert *** Australian investigative journalist Ross Coulthart has a tv piece on sunday 30/5/2021 (Aus time) - based on his upcoming book about the whole ufo topic which should be good. This guy a is legit hardcore journalist. Not sure about streaming or whatever but i'm sure it'll be up on youtube pretty quick. https://twitter.com/7NewsSpotlight/status/1398209178292817922 Also Paul Stonehill has an AMA on reddit on June 5th. This guy is much more fringe and less well known. He has a thick ukranian accent. He focuses mostly on Soviet/Russian historical UFO/USO cases, which no one else seems to cover. And he doesn't really ever provide sources for anything he claims, but there's a lot of good stories in there. Just don't go in expecting proof of anything. A few topics from his youtube include: STRANGE REVELATIONS OF EASTERN BLOCK COSMONAUTS PLASMOID ANOMALIES: RUSSIAN CASES AND REPORTS NEW RUSSIAN UNDERWATER WEAPONS UFOS, NAVY, AND NUKES IN THE RUSSIAN ARCTIC MILITARY BASE “ICE FIST” (SECRETS OF ANTARCTICA) HIGH STRANGENESS: SECRETS OF RUSSIAN COSMONAUTS MONGOLIAN CRYPTIDS AND UFOS Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTzjRCRST1H65rC-dzCh18g/videos Reddit AMA https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/nlwxv4/upcoming_ama_paul_stonehill/ I have no idea how reddit works so don't ask me i just copied the link munce has issued a correction as of 14:50 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 14:46
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plasma is stored in the balls
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May 29, 2021 15:23
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my newest hypothesis is that various governments are aware that we live inside of a simulation and it's glitching out harder and harder because the aliexpress mini pc running it is just brimming with dust so they're going to announce that + legalize a ton of recreational drugs before our universe-computer bursts into flames
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May 29, 2021 15:37
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Bilirubin posted:plasma is stored in the balls Plas ma balls
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May 29, 2021 17:05
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blatman posted:my newest hypothesis is that various governments are aware that we live inside of a simulation and it's glitching out harder and harder because the aliexpress mini pc running it is just brimming with dust so they're going to announce that + legalize a ton of recreational drugs before our universe-computer bursts into flames reality can't be simulated. EVENTUALLY you'd have to run into some weird computational hacks, probably at really small scales, where things stopped being deterministic and instead were just statistically determined only when observed and had weird but absolute rules
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May 29, 2021 17:33
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what are the singuarities of black holes but bugs in the simulation
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May 29, 2021 17:34
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Log082 posted:reality can't be simulated. EVENTUALLY you'd have to run into some weird computational hacks, probably at really small scales, where things stopped being deterministic and instead were just statistically determined only when observed and had weird but absolute rules welcome to shamanism
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May 29, 2021 17:35
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Log082 posted:reality can't be simulated. EVENTUALLY you'd have to run into some weird computational hacks, probably at really small scales, where things stopped being deterministic and instead were just statistically determined only when observed and had weird but absolute rules Isn't that quantum physics e a piece about how I'm not insane, you're insane, or maybe all of us https://twitter.com/willdizard/status/1398685810023702534?s=19 Inspector Hound has issued a correction as of 18:18 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 17:55
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Inspector Hound posted:Isn't that quantum physics Don't be silly. next you're going to tell me that certain physical values have a hard cap. like you'd see THAT outside of a computer simulation
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May 29, 2021 19:01
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Imagine getting zapperoo'd in the old ballsack by one of these ufo plasma ball things. Mama mia
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May 29, 2021 19:03
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Log082 posted:Don't be silly. next you're going to tell me that certain physical values have a hard cap. like you'd see THAT outside of a computer simulation That did always seem weird to me tbh
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May 29, 2021 19:05
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Taco Duck posted:Imagine getting zapperoo'd in the old ballsack by one of these ufo plasma ball things. Mama mia 
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May 29, 2021 19:07
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Plasma is projected in the balls
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May 29, 2021 19:12
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Inspector Hound posted:That did always seem weird to me tbh can't go faster than light.
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May 29, 2021 19:13
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Log082 posted:can't go faster than light. It's lame to just have an impossible limit, matter should just annihilate or turn into photons, that would be more believable imo E there's probably some pretty reason for it but we have to be able to go to other planets eventually how boring would it be to just look at the rest of the universe forever Inspector Hound has issued a correction as of 19:49 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 19:15
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Inspector Hound posted:It's lame to just have an impossible limit, matter should just annihilate or turn into photons, that would be more believable imo agreed. When I write my own world simulation I'll be sure to write that into the code. I'm also gonna add a bunch of easter egg events that appear just to gently caress with isolated simpeople with no recording devices and holy poo poo i think I just solved UFOs and bigfoot at the same time
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May 29, 2021 19:17
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:If we're talking about fringe science, there is this Chinese lady who claimed to have invented gravity propulsion in the 80s, patented it, founded a company, and then left her university and vanished off the face of the Earth: I've looked into her before, because of all the bullshit antigravity claims that have come and gone, this one seemed to be based on an actual calculation and I thought "hey, I could probably check that work." This is all from memory now, because while I did find her papers at one, I haven't had much luck lately. Her first paper laid out the theory, the second paper reported a null result, and there was some talk that the expected effect was orders of magnitude too small to ever be detected in a lab, let alone useful. That's what I wanted to investigate. Her work starts from a speculative extension of general relativity. The details might be hard to grasp if you're not familiar with GR, but the basic idea (Einstein-Cartan theory) is to essentially allow general relativistic effects to not only stretch and compress spacetime but also to twist it. Technically: GR starts with an assumption of a torsion-free connection. You relax that assumption to get Einstein-Cartain theory. The torsion component of the connection would have to couple to matter's intrinsic angular momentum, analogous to how the metric couples to matter's stress-energy tensor. That means quantum mechanical spin enters the equations. Einstein-Cartan theory is generally ignored because it adds enormous complication to an already difficult theoretical framework, for predicted effects that are wildly smaller than anything we'd ever hope to detect. On the other hand, why shouldn't the connection have torsion? Unlike a lot of speculative extensions of the standard model or MOND or what have you, Einstein-Cartan feels like a very natural extension of what we already know, just with physics and predictions that are largely irrelevant and safely ignored. So Ning Li's idea, if I have it right, was to create a large coherent spin state in condensed matter and use that to couple to the gravitational field. I believe the idea was to use rotating superconductors (this is where my understanding / expertise gets hazy). The initial ideas might have been motivated by Podkletnov's crackpot garbage science, which does not bode well. The null result was published and Ning Li disappeared. So here's the challenge: reproduce the basic order-of-magnitude calculation for a spin state coupled to gravity, and estimate how many particles you'd need to get a measurable effect.
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May 29, 2021 20:03
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Rickshaw posted:So here's the challenge: reproduce the basic order-of-magnitude calculation for a spin state coupled to gravity, and estimate how many particles you'd need to get a measurable effect. This is why I love this thread, we can go from shitposting to someone who actually knows enough relativity to dig into the math on some lady's possibly insane, possibly feasible antigrav idea. If you actually find the papers or whatever I'd love a link. Probably won't actually understand the math, though; I top out at stress tensors. That said, check out the stress--charge coupling tensor for a piezoelectric material. It's hilariously big. 4th order, if I remember right, but it's been a while since I tackled one of those.
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May 29, 2021 20:12
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