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| ORANGE |
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57 | 34.34% |
| MIRO |
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32 | 19.28% |
| HANGMAN |
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30 | 18.07% |
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14 | 8.43% |
| BRITT BAKER |
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22 | 13.25% |
| CODY |
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6 | 3.61% |
| DARBY |
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5 | 3.01% |
| Total: | 166 votes | ||
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Take Cody out of it - I don't know how anyone would expect the patriotic American to lose to the British boxer on Memorial Day weekend with their largest live crowd in a year.
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May 31, 2021 07:25
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StarkRavingMad posted:so what are you on about with all this they pushed her in a really weird way stuff i feel like the implication is that they're being racist but i think that's part of my default considerations when people are being extremely cagey about accusations
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May 31, 2021 07:26
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I think it being pointed out that Ogogo's only had 2 matches is what brought me over to understanding Cody's victory. Ogogo's still near-completely green, and he has a ways to go. He also totally had Cody dead to rights, and if he just dragged him out from the rope after that crazy uppercut we would've had a clean victory for sure.
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May 31, 2021 07:27
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I completely get why they wanted to have a big babyface win in the America feud match held on memorial day weekend on one of their first big shows with full crowds, but it would also have owned to have Ogogo get the entire crowd booing as Cody spat up blood in the middle of the ring.
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May 31, 2021 07:27
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Evil Badman posted:Take Cody out of it - I don't know how anyone would expect the patriotic American to lose to the British boxer on Memorial Day weekend with their largest live crowd in a year. Specifically, the first live crowd after a pandemic on memorial day weekend, prefaced by a package quoting loving Patton, FDR and Truman and some sort of veteran charity deal organized by one of their own in-house veterans.
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May 31, 2021 07:28
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Let the show have some time to sit in and while I don't think it's a top all time level PPV for me or the best AEW show I do think it was the most consistent AEW show and a fun watch for the whole run time. Big part of what made it so consistent was they had the young talent go over in big matches! The only down sides I had with the PPV was the Cody finish (and even than the match was still good), the Casino Battle Royale pacing (Going to Card suite than theme music just killed the countdown IMO) and Kenny using more Bullet Club BS finishes than he did in New Japan.
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May 31, 2021 07:28
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Evil Badman posted:Take Cody out of it - I don't know how anyone would expect the patriotic American to lose to the British boxer on Memorial Day weekend with their largest live crowd in a year. I think at this point half of us is most of us really getting sick of that sort of nationalistic booking and badly wanting it to be deconstructed. Hopefully this will just be a one-shot throwback thing.
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May 31, 2021 07:28
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karmicknight posted:Specifically, the first live crowd after a pandemic on memorial day weekend, prefaced by a package quoting loving Patton, FDR and Truman and some sort of veteran charity deal organized by one of their own in-house veterans. it would have been fitting, on memorial day, to have to make a memorial for Cody, as he lay broken in the ring, like the death of superman
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May 31, 2021 07:29
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MotU posted:it would have been fitting, on memorial day, to have to make a memorial for Cody, as he lay broken in the ring, like the death of superman They should have quoted Curtis LeMay, Douglas MacArthur and Woodrow Wilson, then.
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May 31, 2021 07:30
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ChrisBTY posted:I think at this point half of us is most of us really getting sick of that sort of nationalistic booking and badly wanting it to be deconstructed. Hopefully this will just be a one-shot throwback thing. I think you're right on both points.
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May 31, 2021 07:31
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karmicknight posted:They should have quoted Curtis LeMay, Douglas MacArthur and Woodrow Wilson, then. ogogo shoudl have quoted john wilkes booth
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May 31, 2021 07:31
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StarkRavingMad posted:so what are you on about with all this they pushed her in a really weird way stuff I'm on exactly what I'm loving saying. Coming out of the Lights Out match, they basically erased Thunder Rosa from the canon and pushed and presented Britt in a way that got Shida less over and made her beating Shida basically a foregone conclusion. And I find that really weird, because Britt's a heel and Shida's a babyface. I keep saying "weird" because I don't even necessarily think it's bad booking, I don't think it's bad to strongly book the person you want to make your champion and focus the division around her, I just think it's weird, given the alignments of the respective characters and the way it negatively affected the current champion. It's not some kind of dog whistle. I just think it's weird. Like, okay. Look at it this way. Championship match. There's a babyface and a heel. The heel's manager interferes. The babyface gets nailed with a foreign object. This is not the finish. The match continues. The heel eventually wins, clean, with a wrestling move. Kenny Omega and Don Callis are the biggest pieces of garbage in the world. Britt Baker gets roses thrown at her feet. flatluigi posted:i feel like the implication is that they're being racist but i think that's part of my default considerations when people are being extremely cagey about accusations That's a really loving lovely thing to say.
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May 31, 2021 07:35
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[slamming the table again, louder this time] Damnit! Why is MJeff so extremely correct tonight???
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May 31, 2021 07:37
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yeah, it would be! that's why it's good to explain what you mean instead of going on about how really weird it is
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May 31, 2021 07:37
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I dont think anyone is accusing the women's division booking of being racist. Nor do I think anyone is denying Britt had been built for this to be the natural changing point. This story has been coming for a long time now. It's just really lovely that we had this dog and pony show on Friday night of "here now you can address your live crowd, here's a bigger belt, enjoy the next 48 hours as best you can." And then the PPV skips over the aftermath of the match, and thankfully the crowd did the thank you chant otherwise there was no acknowledgement of the former champ as the camera truck decided it was time to look at the goddamn commentary table for some reason??? It's not conspiracy. There's so secret women's division illuminati. But they've had growing pains in this company and this feels like more of em. Just wish it had been handled better. Maybe part of it is just due to the playoffs pushing Dynamite out of position, who can say?
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May 31, 2021 07:38
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flatluigi posted:yeah, it would be! that's why it's good to explain what you mean instead of going on about how really weird it is its weird and lovely that that is the first accusation you jump to
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May 31, 2021 07:41
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MotU posted:nothing doom and gloom about it, aew put out a very good ppv and will keep putitng out great shows. calling any criticism doom and gloom or things of that nature is pretty toxic though. things can be good and still have points people dont agree with and trying to wholly categorize people that dont immediately fall into line is kinda harmful because it just pushes people away
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May 31, 2021 07:41
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flatluigi posted:yeah, it would be! that's why it's good to explain what you mean instead of going on about how really weird it is And so they did, they used words to explain why they keep harping on it feeling weird. Chill. Also: MotU posted:its weird and lovely that that is the first accusation you jump to Yeah. It is.
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May 31, 2021 07:41
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One nice thing about a Sunday PPV is Elevation is tomorrow.
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May 31, 2021 07:43
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to be clear i thought the posters were insinuating aew's booking was racist for leaving shida and rosa behind in favor of britt because that was genuinely the only thing i could come up with, before those posters later explained more about what they meant. i still don't understand it, but i'm glad that specific thing is off the table currently
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May 31, 2021 07:45
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MJeff posted:Coming out of the Lights Out match, they basically erased Thunder Rosa from the canon and pushed and presented Britt in a way that got Shida less over karmicknight posted:Specifically, the first live crowd after a pandemic on memorial day weekend, prefaced by a package quoting loving Patton, FDR and Truman and some sort of veteran charity deal organized by one of their own in-house veterans. Cody doesn't just want to be the ace, he wants everyone to love him. So when everyone doesn't, he's like "lol see, that difference of opinion is what makes AMERICA GREAT therefore since I AM AMERICA, I AM GREAT."
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May 31, 2021 07:46
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Evil Badman posted:Take Cody out of it - I don't know how anyone would expect the patriotic American to lose to the British boxer on Memorial Day weekend with their largest live crowd in a year. Lol I really doubt an AEW crowd is gonna get big mad if they don’t constantly fellate the American flag
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May 31, 2021 07:47
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ogogo should have punched the flag in half
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May 31, 2021 07:49
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But yo, that three way match was one of the best three way matches I've ever seen. A masterclass of wrestling from all three (and Don Callis) people involved.
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May 31, 2021 07:50
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AEW has totally undercut Shida and Rosa in favor of Britt. It was also bad that they didn't stick with Shida after losing and acknowledge the thank you chants.
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May 31, 2021 07:51
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Shawn Spears looking like he does side work for the Oldest House via the Chair Dimension.
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May 31, 2021 07:52
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The Cody match is dumb because you lose nothing by having Ogogo beat Cody here. Make QT and his goons a legitimate threat and THEN overcome them. It's fine either way, because I wasn't super invested in this match and it still overdelivered. Cody just wanted to Cody and gaddang it we just have to deal.
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May 31, 2021 07:52
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Ogogo should have won and the finish should have been when Cody got punched in the face during the Figure Four
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May 31, 2021 07:52
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i'm glad we're getting to the bottom of why this whole britt baker experiment didn't work, such a weird build, maybe the fans will get behind the next one
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May 31, 2021 07:53
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Cody should've tapped for the figure four reversal, just because I've never seen it happen.
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May 31, 2021 07:53
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Cody should have lost here then wrestled the next match with a sheet of metal under his shirt, imho
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May 31, 2021 07:53
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sportsgenius86 posted:Lol I really doubt an AEW crowd is gonna get big mad if they don’t constantly fellate the American flag Not the point? Cody losing with this setup would have come off as actually mean-spirited outside of kayfabe, which is WWE's forte not AEW'S.
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May 31, 2021 07:54
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Evil Badman posted:Not the point? Cody losing with this setup would have come off as actually mean-spirited outside of kayfabe, which is WWE's forte not AEW'S. yeah the setup was the problem
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May 31, 2021 07:54
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Oh Snapple! posted:Cody should have lost here then wrestled the next match with a sheet of metal under his shirt, imho agreed unironically unless you werent makin a joke in which case agreed
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May 31, 2021 07:54
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sticklefifer posted:Thunder Rosa still consistently has awesome matches and Britt was doing a long-term Dark/Elevation thing to get into the rankings, while Shida's had several title defenses and plenty of people were saying they wanted Shida to win or predicted a double-turn. Just because you say Thunder Rosa was "erased" a bunch of times doesn't make it more true. Nobody erased anybody. You just see something different, and that's fine, but you're copping an attitude about people disagreeing. Bro, she's wrestled one two minute match on Dynamite since the Lights Out match.
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May 31, 2021 07:55
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Penguin Patrol posted:i'm glad we're getting to the bottom of why this whole britt baker experiment didn't work, such a weird build, maybe the fans will get behind the next one MJeff has called it weird, because it worked, but struck them as being, well, weird (not bad or any truly negative adjective).
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May 31, 2021 07:56
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MJeff posted:Bro, she's wrestled one two minute match on Dynamite since the Lights Out match. she's not high enough in the rankings, she had an on-the-record loss to britt baker earlier in the year, and she's signed to another company. this is britt's time right now, rosa will get hers
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May 31, 2021 07:57
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Wrestling rules. Man, it's so much fun!
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May 31, 2021 07:59
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:agreed unironically longterm storytelling is no joke
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May 31, 2021 08:00
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Anthony Ogogo getting the Bret Hart treatment is fine, I guess. It's not like AEW's actual Goldberg, Jade Cargill, needs the spot.
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May 31, 2021 08:01
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