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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Russia and Britain almost went to war over the steppe several times but even then the chiefs they kept conquering and forcing to sign treaties kept saying “why would you this, No they didn't. The only potential conflict points were Afghanistan and PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 18:15 on May 31, 2021 |
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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There's plenty of steppe in afghanistan. Probably like a third of it.
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Count Roland posted:I quite like this way of viewing population density. I like how Egypt is just the blazing red of the Nile surrounded by nothing.
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"Step Zone" is my competition step team's name
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Help me steppe bro, I'm stuck
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Plz no steppe
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steppe on me mommy
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Even the longest journey starts with a simple steppe
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Byzantine posted:I like how Egypt is just the blazing red of the Nile surrounded by nothing. Always has been, too.
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Saladman posted:That's much more clear in some ways, and less clear in others. Like the map I posted shows northern Namibia much more clearly; roughly half the population of the country is in a narrow band just north of Etosha Pan and on the border with Angola once called "Ovamboland" and which despite being quite small compared to the country, contains 4 of its 14 current national regions. Alternately Luanda is much more clear in the one you posted. its mostly a function of the niger and benue rivers
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That west TX/east NM "february" blob got bombarded with rain and snow starting october last year and continuing to the present. Previous year was similar but less so. Year before that, similar but even less so. I'm sure the climate is fine.
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doublepost because this comes into my head an embarrassing amount and all map thread readers deserve it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmHsKdpPTPk&t=116s We are the eighty-five federal subjects of the Russian Federation... Also I'm obligated to say the best one is Altay Kray Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jun 4, 2021 |
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It comes into mine every month or so since it was posted somewhere here before.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:doublepost because this comes into my head an embarrassing amount and all map thread readers deserve it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmHsKdpPTPk&t=116s drat it, I had almost purged that thing from my brain's earworm collection.
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I wonder if there's an actual separatist movement in Åland. I guess I could research it but actually no-one cares as long as we get their freezer fries.
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I do like how Budapest is the only region that is most attached to Europe.
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The basque one is great. I'm guessing a massive quantity of respondants didn't want to seem like sepratists, as that is the connotation of "attachment to region" in that area
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The ETA has some good ideas.
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I think the regions less attached to country are in general border regions. I guess is easier to disagree with "my country is the best of the world" when you can drive a few km and find a country that do a number of things better. The vasque country case is hilarious. My theory was that the questions where poorly tailored for them. I know a few anarco-capitalist from pais vasque, they are just complex/paradoxical people politically. Theres even leftist nationalist.. how can you be that? Too bad they did not asked in england.
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I'm glad they use the old french regions. Alsace has a hella regional identity but ain't nobody feeling patriotic for Grand Est. Although I'd like to see it with the new regions too, mostly because of the barely-sensible conglomerations while also doing poo poo like Brittany remaining divided while Alsace is shoved in with Champagne. e: something something Champagne region of France, otherwise it's just sparkling separatism
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Tei posted:I think the regions less attached to country are in general border regions. Depends highly on who's behind the border, though.
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The map isn’t terribly surprising in that it generally highlights regions with a well known history of having an independent streak. The general Basque area, The old Venetian territories, Brittany, Catalonia, Bavaria, Schleswig-Holstein, etc. What I don’t get are things like Budapest or that patch in I want to say Bulgaria?
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galagazombie posted:The map isn’t terribly surprising in that it generally highlights regions with a well known history of having an independent streak. The general Basque area, The old Venetian territories, Brittany, Catalonia, Bavaria, Schleswig-Holstein, etc. What I don’t get are things like Budapest or that patch in I want to say Bulgaria?
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Yeah, I’d also guess that Budapest being pro-EU is mostly to be understood as a reaction to the Orban government. I don’t know a lot about Bulgaria but the more regionalist part seems to correspond to the Rhodopes massif, a sparsely populated mountainous region with a large Muslim, Turkish-speak speaking population
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A bunch of them are simply the regions having a strong own culture or identity that differs in significant ways from the country's main culture. Such as the places in the Benelux, as well as Brittany. Probably Bavaria as well.
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I wonder how east Germany would look if you allowed it to be counted as a region in itself. I've become really good online friends with someone from Halle and she gives 0 shits for Sachsen-Anhalt specifically but identifies very strongly as an easterner even though she was born well into reunification. I'd almost say she loathes the west. Although now I wonder if any germans have stereotypes about Sachsen-Anhalt. I'm decently familiar with Germany, BaWü is where my inbred cousins live and the only state I've actually been to, Bavaria is Bavaria, Sachen proper is where everyone speaks kamelåså-tier moon gibberish, etc, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything about Sachsen-Anhalt. e: speaking of it absolutely tracks that the Baden part of BaWü is all "we're german so what" and the Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jun 5, 2021 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I wonder how east Germany would look if you allowed it to be counted as a region in itself. I've become really good online friends with someone from Halle and she gives 0 shits for Sachsen-Anhalt specifically but identifies very strongly as an easterner even though she was born well into reunification. I'd almost say she loathes the west. Honestly, I have a feeling that this might already be the case, and they just generally asked "do you identify more with the country or the region?" without specifying the region they mean. Like, this is just a guess but if you look at Zeeland, the most southwest province of the Netherlands:  It wouldn't surprise me if people identify more with their specific island than with the province as a whole, even though the original map shows provinces as regions. As a side note, Zeeland is the old one New Zealand is named after.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I wonder how east Germany would look if you allowed it to be counted as a region in itself. I've become really good online friends with someone from Halle and she gives 0 shits for Sachsen-Anhalt specifically but identifies very strongly as an easterner even though she was born well into reunification. I'd almost say she loathes the west. Re: Baden, that's a bit strange to me because I lived in south Baden for a while and the people there are definitely out and proud regionalists, I've got fond memories of sitting in the stadium at Freiburg matches and singing along with tens of thosands people going "Der Schwab muss raus, der Schwab muss raus, der Schwab muss raus aus dem Badnerland, die Sau!". Maybe it's because the region as used by the map also includes large paths of Schwaben territory which cancelled each other out? I don't think there are any stereotypes about Sachsen-Anhalt as a whole, it is one of those states haphazardly cobbled together within living memory after all but with the added drawback that none of its constituent parts had any significant regional identity either - so I guess regional identities there are really local (Altmark, or maybe the Harz mountains), if that at all. The stereotypes about Sachsen-Anhalt today are, if anything, stereotypes that are being applied to (rural) Eastern Germany as a whole, i.e. sparsely populated, nazis, poor, wolves howling in the forests, run-down villages but really nice Autobahnen etc.
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I sort of assumed that Sicily would have more regional attachment.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm glad they use the old french regions. Alsace has a hella regional identity but ain't nobody feeling patriotic for Grand Est. It uses the Nomenclature of Territorial Units for Statistics level 2 division of whatever time period the survey was conducted in. It's a bit unfortunate, since it completely blots out regional identities in sparsely populated countries where the NUTS 2 regions are several regions duct-taped together into a statistical unit. E.g. Ostrobothnia is the Texas of Finland, but you can hardly tell. Though the sample size is likely tiny as well.
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I'd love to see that map for North America. Along with some clarity as to what exact question was asked.
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Count Roland posted:I'd love to see that map for North America.   
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Count Roland posted:I'd love to see that map for North America. Along with some clarity as to what exact question was asked. There is a similar chart for Canada at least: 
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Tei posted:I think the regions less attached to country are in general border regions. I guess is easier to disagree with "my country is the best of the world" when you can drive a few km and find a country that do a number of things better. Scotland and Bretagne have a bunch of leftist nationalists. The common thread seems to be right wing national governments who don’t give a gently caress about you and may want to kill you.
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Carbon dioxide posted:As a side note, Zeeland is the old one New Zealand is named after. a cursed, garbage place named after a cursed, garbage place
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System Metternich posted:There is a similar chart for Canada at least: I'm surprised Quebec's provincial rating isn't higher. Also confirming Manitoba as the worst province. It also shows that a lot of these attitudes are overlapping. People from Newfoundland feel loyal to their country, province and local community at higher levels than normal.
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