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RBC posted:still 100k below the average canadian house price lmao That's a $650k mortage, so probably around a $765k purchase price if I did my math right. But that's only for Victoria, Toronto and Vancouver so still well, WELL below average. Y'all talk about this only being for the rich but it's aimed at people that can't even afford an average house!
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I was more just pointing out how insane prices have gotten. And just how much the government just absolutely does not care.
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RBC posted:I was more just pointing out how insane prices have gotten. And just how much the government just absolutely does not care. Going by this it seems like they do care: they want them to go higher!
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RBC posted:I was more just pointing out how insane prices have gotten. And just how much the government just absolutely does not care. ive seen upwards of 10x average household income in guelph lmao
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May 31, 2021 21:29
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The feds are giving homeowners $5k to make energy efficient retrofits on their houses. While a drop in the bucket compared to everything else, I'd sure like a cheque too please. I'm just a filthy renter but I could buy some solar panels with it and put them on my balcony maybe, idk.
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Cold on a Cob posted:The feds are giving homeowners $5k to make energy efficient retrofits on their houses. If you're living in an apartment you're already being like 4 times more efficient than any of the suburban mcmansion owners who will blow that $5k helping pay for a new "efficient heat pump" i.e. air conditioning.
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Jun 1, 2021 07:18
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Meanwhile subsidized housing in Toronto has a 25-to-30-year wait list.
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RBC posted:I was more just pointing out how insane prices have gotten. And just how much the government just absolutely does not care. the electorate are olds who are home owners, they think this whole thing is a boon for them cuz now they are "millionaires" rocket_rocket_moon.jpg
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Typo posted:the electorate are olds who are home owners, they think this whole thing is a boon for them cuz now they are "millionaires" There is some serious inter-generational warfare brewing now that the number of retirees to workers is heading for 1:2. If the olds think the young are going to keep paying for everything, I think they are fooling themselves. Healthcare and long term care are paid from current tax dollars; why should young people be stuck with the bill for the inability of the olds to plan?
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Mandibular Fiasco posted:There is some serious inter-generational warfare brewing now that the number of retirees to workers is heading for 1:2. If the olds think the young are going to keep paying for everything, I think they are fooling themselves. Healthcare and long term care are paid from current tax dollars; why should young people be stuck with the bill for the inability of the olds to plan? on radio just yesterday CARP or w/e had an ad which basically went "you millennials keep blaming us boomers for lost opportunities but DAE boomers can't afford anything because they still need to support you millennials???" the dude reading the lines sounded pissed when he said it too
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Typo posted:on radio just yesterday CARP or w/e had an ad which basically went The boomers own most of the assets and are responsible for the policies that have been implemented in the last twenty years. It doesn't matter, because when decisions are made on funding health care, they're going to reap what they have sown. There are a LOT of angry, pissed off millennials that feel completely screwed over, because they are. If they think we're all going to foot the bill for them, watch out. They're in for a shock.
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Typo posted:on radio just yesterday CARP or w/e had an ad which basically went Hah! The millenials fortunate enough to ask their own family for help are getting help. The boomers getting help is through government policy.
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Purgatory Glory posted:Hah! The millenials fortunate enough to ask their own family for help are getting help. The boomers getting help is through government policy. You can ask your family, but that doesn't mean they're in a position to help. Mine aren't, so when I asked (just for laughs), I got what was expected (more laughter).
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Mandibular Fiasco posted:You can ask your family, but that doesn't mean they're in a position to help. Mine aren't, so when I asked (just for laughs), I got what was expected (more laughter). If you can figure out a way to mime the request it could be an all-new gag they feature on the Just for Laughs candid camera show.
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Mandibular Fiasco posted:The boomers own most of the assets and are responsible for the policies that have been implemented in the last twenty years. It doesn't matter, because when decisions are made on funding health care, they're going to reap what they have sown. There are a LOT of angry, pissed off millennials that feel completely screwed over, because they are. If they think we're all going to foot the bill for them, watch out. They're in for a shock. This isn't going to happen for a while, the olds are still by far the biggest voting bloc and policy will continue to be in their favour until they either start dying or stop voting. Until then, they will just keep voting to gently caress over young people to pay for their expensive homes, expensive pensions, and their expensive healthcare. Even then, GenX are only marginally less loving stupid than boomers. There isn't really a good opportunity for the millenials and below to stick it to them within the next twenty years.
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Vancouver Green Councillor Pete Fry is such a pedant he's gonna do something dumb that's gonna result in less non-profit housing getting built. quote:Vancouver councillor says many cannot afford non-market homes in “problematic” definition of social housing The non-profit community sector, not big bad developers, the non-profits, are saying that they won't be able to build non-profit housing if the definition of "affordable" housing gets narrowed, and still Pete shrugs and thinks this is a good idea. City of Vancouver's policies are tuned to enable the development of whatever BC Housing and Federal incentives enable. The issue here isn't CoV policy, but rather that BC/Feds aren't subsidizing more to enable even further more subsidized housing units. Whenever that happens, then the CoV can adjust its policies. What does Fry hope to accomplish by moving to a system where the city won't incentivize, or perhaps even won't allow development unless the "affordable housing" component is priced at a level that non-profit housing developers assert is unviable even to them? The end result is that the math doesn't add up, the project doesn't work and no housing gets built at all. This is coming off the heels of Fry's "No" vote on Councillor Boyle's failed motion to support non-profit housing with higher heights and a streamlined development process to enable more lower priced housing. quote:Boyle’s motion looked to build on council’s decision last month to approve bylaw amendments, as recommended by city staff, to fast-track social housing in certain apartment zones of the city, by allowing non-profit housing providers to build up to six storeys without going through rezoning, which adds significant additional time, cost and uncertainty. Boyle raises a good point to direct at Fry. How does Fry's voting pattern and "affordable housing" pedantry help? I don't see how anything Fry is doing produces any more lower priced housing or helps non-profits. It's more endlessly waiting for some "perfect" solution that isn't going to appear, and meanwhile keeping with the status quo that is terrible. It's become common to see public commentators and councillors be against for-profit condo developments because they "aren't affordable enough" but wild to see the same people shrug and continue with the opposition even when the proposal on the table is changed to be about purely non-profit social housing. Now somehow despite a development being non-profit social housing it's still "not affordable enough" or some other new nebulous concern. It seems more likely that there's actually nothing that could appease these people that are simply against new buildings because of the heights. Femtosecond fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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qhat posted:This isn't going to happen for a while, the olds are still by far the biggest voting bloc and policy will continue to be in their favour until they either start dying or stop voting. Until then, they will just keep voting to gently caress over young people to pay for their expensive homes, expensive pensions, and their expensive healthcare. Even then, GenX are only marginally less loving stupid than boomers. There isn't really a good opportunity for the millenials and below to stick it to them within the next twenty years. What you describe is certainly possible, but the factors that otherwise contribute to a docile populace are starting to falter. If you can’t have a family, a secure job, a place to live, you are much more susceptible to populism. This is basically what has happened with Trump to the south. If the Conservatives had a brain, they double down on intergenerational warfare with a side of social conservatism as their go forward strategy. Bad for society as a whole but the boomers clearly don’t care, why should millennials? The other thing to know about health care is that regardless of what the boomers want, the people aren’t there to deliver the care anymore. We are seeing unprecedented vacancies across all professions, with the COVID-19 burnout accelerating retirements. The system is in deep trouble and there is no obvious solution. Boomers chose not to train an adequate supply of people to care for them. They’re going to pay a big price.
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The Vancouver Green councilors are basically NPA (conservatives) in disguise.
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Mandibular Fiasco posted:What you describe is certainly possible, but the factors that otherwise contribute to a docile populace are starting to falter. If you can’t have a family, a secure job, a place to live, you are much more susceptible to populism. This is basically what has happened with Trump to the south. If the Conservatives had a brain, they double down on intergenerational warfare with a side of social conservatism as their go forward strategy. Bad for society as a whole but the boomers clearly don’t care, why should millennials? Alberta will see a second wave of inmoving when large amounts of people all realize its the one province where your parents cant force you to pay for em.
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Alctel posted:The Vancouver Green councilors are basically NPA (conservatives) in disguise. 
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Alctel posted:The Vancouver Green councilors are basically NPA (conservatives) in disguise. where are the greens not conservatives in disguise? I'll admit that they were able to run to the NDP's left in the last federal election but that's more an indictment of the NDP, and it's easy to do when there's no chance of winning.
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Truman Peyote posted:where are the greens not conservatives in disguise? I'll admit that they were able to run to the NDP's left in the last federal election but that's more an indictment of the NDP, and it's easy to do when there's no chance of winning. Agreed (although provincially it really depends which green candidate you look at, they are all over the map) but the Vancouver councillors are even worse, they basically vote with the NPA almost all the time
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The Vancouver municipal Greens seem to have gotten a big bounce from Vancouver voters getting tired of big Vision majorities. What the Greens actually stand for is completely nebulous. This environmentalist party, unlike also environmentalist Vision, votes against contentious housing and bike lane stances. Fry's recent motion to further pedestrianize Commercial Drive for example went to great pains to not include new cycling infrastructure, but made special notes to "maintain and improve on-street parking spaces to support local businesses." This was in opposition to the years of grass roots activist work that had been building the consensus to remake Commercial as a "complete street" with dedicated, safe and separated cycling lanes. This was an active choice by Fry here to push cycling advocates out of the way and close the door on bike lanes. At the upcoming council meeting Carr has a motion on the table to ban gas powered leaf blowers. I can get behind that for sure, but this is indicative of the limits of Green Party environmentalist ideology. 70s/80s era thinking where environmentalism is about recycling, planting trees and feel good local projects. Bigger picture systemic change thinking like taking cars off the road by supporting active transportation and building dense housing isn't part of it. Vision has made some noises about a return to old donors and honestly despite their many, many flaws I hope they come roaring back and stomp the Greens. (An even better, though more unlikely alternative would be OneCity picking up some more seats and a seat for socialist Derrick O'Keefe, who nearly got on council for COPE, and seems to me from his twitter page a tad more sensible and pragmatic than Swanson) Femtosecond fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Truman Peyote posted:where are the greens not conservatives in disguise? I'll admit that they were able to run to the NDP's left in the last federal election but that's more an indictment of the NDP, and it's easy to do when there's no chance of winning. There was a long-standing conspiracy theory that right wingers have been signing Green party cheques since day 1 as a vote-splitter, but I've never seen anything solid on it.
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stillvisions posted:There was a long-standing conspiracy theory that right wingers have been signing Green party cheques since day 1 as a vote-splitter, but I've never seen anything solid on it. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-b-c-liberal-ad-highlights-green-party-1.1324141 The BC Liberals are probably the shadiest provincial party in the country, and I don't say that lightly.
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Femtosecond posted:The Vancouver municipal Greens seem to have gotten a big bounce from Vancouver voters getting tired of big Vision majorities. What the Greens actually stand for is completely nebulous. Yeah all of this. That Commercial Drive motion was co-submitted with Melissa De Genova, who is a festering tumour on Vancouver city politics.
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it's ok I'll just ride my bike in the middle of the one car lane once they finish that commercial drive revamp. I'll make sure to go real slow too, for safety
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The real hustlers drive up Victoria instead of commercial, anyway.
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Femtosecond posted:Fry's recent motion to further pedestrianize Commercial Drive for example went to great pains to not include new cycling infrastructure, but made special notes to "maintain and improve on-street parking spaces to support local businesses." This was in opposition to the years of grass roots activist work that had been building the consensus to remake Commercial as a "complete street" with dedicated, safe and separated cycling lanes. This was an active choice by Fry here to push cycling advocates out of the way and close the door on bike lanes. I volunteer with a Active Transportation and Car Free advocacy organisation in Vancouver and the Commercial Drive BIA seems hold outsized power over what happens along the street. We talk to City Counsellors about this stuff all the time and they always seem super supportive and interested in hearing what we have to say, but when it comes to Commercial Drive, the BIA somehow always gets what it wants. I don't know what the deal is, but the Italian Day festival they put on always seems to get a pass for their nonexistent garbage and site cleanup plan as well.
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Why the actual gently caress would you not build bike lanes on a street that you are trying to 'pedestrianize' It makes literally zero sense, especially for something like Commercial that is filled with people who live nearby going to restaurants, shops etc. I don't actually get the massive, sustained resistance from a segment of the population against bike lanes. It literally is better for an area in every way, reducing congestion, increasing foot traffic through local shops and generally being a lot nicer area to wander around it. In the local paper here, half of the letters page is filled up day after day with people complaining about our bike lanes
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qhat posted:The real hustlers drive up
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Femtosecond posted:(An even better, though more unlikely alternative would be OneCity picking up some more seats and a seat for socialist Derrick O'Keefe, who nearly got on council for COPE, and seems to me from his twitter page a tad more sensible and pragmatic than Swanson) I'm a OneCity member and did a lot of door-knocking and canvassing for them in the last election. On the one hand, the last month or so has been frustrating as our elected people have been voted down on all of the high profile, decent poo poo that has crossed their desks. on the other hand, it will hopefully make the contrast between us and the greens much easier to argue next year. I just hope we have more candidates this time.
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Alctel posted:Why the actual gently caress would you not build bike lanes on a street that you are trying to 'pedestrianize' As a fairly new driver I adore streets with real bike lanes. Eliminates practically all the anxiety of driving with cyclists. But there are a lot of people who hate cyclists in general or they hate (/misunderstand) space being given to purposes other than lanes for cars.
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The biggest shock coming to boomers and it’s already happening is what happens when they say “I pay your salary” at a retirement or LTC home. No matter how expensive the home is you can’t afford private nursing and you / your family will be told it right quick if the nurse threatens to leave.
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deGenova almost lost the last election. Don't let her get elected again. She's also married to a loving cop.
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half cocaine posted:deGenova almost lost the last election. Don't let her get elected again. She's also married to a loving cop. I wish that first part were true, but she got the third-most votes of any councillor, and the most of any councillor who wasn't a Green. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Vancouver_municipal_election
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half cocaine posted:deGenova almost lost the last election. Don't let her get elected again. She's also married to a loving cop. she also wastes all her time on pointless pro-italian motions.
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It's almost like her job is to keep the council dysfunctional so that a left wing agenda and/or tax increases never seem to come to pass. Almost like her job is to be as dumb and fractious and slow as possible. Hmmmmmm.
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Franks Happy Place posted:It's almost like her job is to keep the council dysfunctional so that a left wing agenda and/or tax increases never seem to come to pass. Yeah that was basically her job on the Park Board before she ascended to Council. Throw procedural wrenches in the works and manufacture outrage over irrelevant bullshit.
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Truman Peyote posted:I'm a OneCity member and did a lot of door-knocking and canvassing for them in the last election. On the one hand, the last month or so has been frustrating as our elected people have been voted down on all of the high profile, decent poo poo that has crossed their desks. on the other hand, it will hopefully make the contrast between us and the greens much easier to argue next year. Vancouver sucks, just signed up to volunteer with OneCity and make it less terrible maybe? I THINK that makes your post officially Praxis(Tm)
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