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It becomes a fairly large plot point.
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 21:39 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 03:24 |
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As Nero Danced posted:I don't know if this is something that's ever brought up in the comics, but what are the extent of Eve's powers? I'm trying to avoid falling into the same questions that would come up with Dr. Manhattan and his powers (my first version of this question was "why doesn't she turn Omni-Man's brain into chocolate pudding"), but could she have done anything to stop Omni-Man? I thought she already mentioned why she can/can’t do certain things with her powers but I can’t find a scene of her spelling it out yet in the show. All she’s said so far is that she can manipulate molecules on the atomic level. They’ll go more into it later for sure.
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 21:59 |
As Nero Danced posted:I don't know if this is something that's ever brought up in the comics, but what are the extent of Eve's powers? I'm trying to avoid falling into the same questions that would come up with Dr. Manhattan and his powers (my first version of this question was "why doesn't she turn Omni-Man's brain into chocolate pudding"), but could she have done anything to stop Omni-Man? uh i guess the answer is not in her current state.
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 22:01 |
Eve power spoiler sans story context: power don't work on biological material
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 22:10 |
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Do you want to know Omni-man's secret? His brain has always been chocolate pudding.
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 22:23 |
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Wheeee posted:Eve power spoiler sans story context: Ok, this works for me. ynohtna posted:Do you want to know Omni-man's secret? One of those Aperture Science experiments did a real number on Cave Johnson.
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 22:33 |
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As Nero Danced posted:I don't know if this is something that's ever brought up in the comics, but what are the extent of Eve's powers? I'm trying to avoid falling into the same questions that would come up with Dr. Manhattan and his powers (my first version of this question was "why doesn't she turn Omni-Man's brain into chocolate pudding"), but could she have done anything to stop Omni-Man? Revealing her whole power set would be major spoilers. I do hope they finish the whole story so that they are fully revealed.
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 22:43 |
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Wheeee posted:Eve power spoiler sans story context: Uhh then how does she rebuild that forest and accelerate the farmer's crops' growth? Logically there should be no reason why she can manipulate one type of molecule but not others. It's probably better explained that she has ethical reasons for not manipulating living cells, and/or that she's still so inexperienced that she's never tried. I would be surprised if she is not an integral part of defeating Nolan/other Viltrumites in the future. edit: Disclaimer I have not read the comic
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 22:59 |
stop thinking too hard about dumb comics poo poo and also that was a very pared down spoiler more to answer a specific question
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 23:14 |
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The problem with Atom Eve is even if she can do all kinds of crazy green lantern bullshit, she's still just as tough as a regular person and can only think/move as fast as one too. Plenty of time Omni-Man dicks around slow enough that regular soldiers can shoot him, but if he went full speed he could take her out before she could react. Reminds me of this old bit from Injustice.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 04:14 |
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Wheeee posted:The show got me to read the comics and while I'm not big on comics they were a decent read. I liked that they basically were, as others have mentioned, sort of a big melting pot of all the typical comic stories and tropes all mixed up, good times. It does really blur the line between fighting fascism and advocating fascism. I honestly don't know what you're meant to walk away from it thinking.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 04:37 |
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So many series involving guys with superpowers end up thematically confused.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 04:45 |
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Away all Goats posted:Uhh then how does she rebuild that forest and accelerate the farmer's crops' growth? There's a concrete answer but it's comic spoilers. Is there an appropriate thread for me to say it? I recall comic spoilers weren't received well in here in the past.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 05:42 |
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Argue posted:There's a concrete answer but it's comic spoilers. Is there an appropriate thread for me to say it? I recall comic spoilers weren't received well in here in the past. There are a couple BSS threads about comics that got turned into shows where spoilers are fine but BSS isn't big on invincible. So basically no
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 06:36 |
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Away all Goats posted:Uhh then how does she rebuild that forest and accelerate the farmer's crops' growth? good point. it's one thing for her to manipulate molecules, but rebuilding a forest would require creating new ones, wouldn't it? Shyrka posted:
always chuckle at stuff like this where you realize if particular superheroes wanted to, they could end a fight in nanoseconds, but don't cause of plot contrivance and such.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 06:58 |
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BurritoJustice posted:It does really blur the line between fighting fascism and advocating fascism. I honestly don't know what you're meant to walk away from it thinking. Invincible the comic mostly ends up advocating fascism because it’s got that kinda dumb short sighted nerd thing going on where they think that meritocracy is a real thing and that if you just put The Right People In Charge everything will be great and whoops we’ve wound up in an accidental dictatorship how did that happen. Well it’s probably not important as long as we say “peace” a lot.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 07:20 |
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Superspeed is always the most overpowered power because people without superspeed can't do anything to those with it
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 07:24 |
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Collapsing Farts posted:Superspeed is always the most overpowered power because people without superspeed can't do anything to those with it I always hate when Comics/Manga use it as an upgrade because it always works for about 1 fight then everyone they fight from then on can somehow usually keep up even if superspeed isn't their power.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 07:27 |
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Collapsing Farts posted:Superspeed is always the most overpowered power because people without superspeed can't do anything to those with it Nolan and Mark don't really have any kind of super speed or perception, though. Or any of the weird superman style extra powers. They're just super strong and tough and can fly really fast.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 07:34 |
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I definitely got the impression they are at least REALLY fast. Maybe not Flash-level fast but fast enough to catch most people completely offguard
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 07:42 |
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yeah didn't nolan almost catch cecil before he teleported?
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 07:49 |
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The super hero team from the first episode included both a speedster and someone who could go incorporeal at will, but he still got them.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 07:54 |
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Collapsing Farts posted:I definitely got the impression they are at least REALLY fast. Maybe not Flash-level fast but fast enough to catch most people completely offguard Looking at the map his wife used to plan out distracting him you can see that he covers 4000+ miles in 5 minutes, but 288 miles takes him 2 minutes. So it seems like he has a really high top speed but unlike heroes like The Flash he needs to cover a large distance to hit full speed.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 08:12 |
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Good Citizen posted:Nolan and Mark don't really have any kind of super speed or perception, though. Or any of the weird superman style extra powers. They're just super strong and tough and can fly really fast. They show Mark trying to punch Nolan in the last episode and Nolan moved around him like it was nothing to show that even compared to each other Nolan still has super speed on Mark.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 08:14 |
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Tip posted:Looking at the map his wife used to plan out distracting him you can see that he covers 4000+ miles in 5 minutes, but 288 miles takes him 2 minutes. Mark and Nolan can propel themselves forward with crazy force but I don't think they have the perception of someone like the flash or the russian speedster from the show. Nolan does have 1000+ years of killing dudes under his belt though so it works out fine for him
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 08:18 |
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It's a fun running gag in the comics that everyone assumes Mark has super hearing and he has to constantly remind everyone he doesn't have generic Superman powers.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 08:56 |
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Good Citizen posted:Nolan and Mark don't really have any kind of super speed or perception, though. Or any of the weird superman style extra powers. They're just super strong and tough and can fly really fast. This doesn’t track. Nolan literally couldn’t function as shown in the show if his eyes and ears couldn’t keep up with what he was doing, he wouldn’t have the reaction time to dodge other super humans/viltrumites like he clearly does. Mark is shown in the first episode to hear someone screaming for help from multiple blocks away.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 13:57 |
Hearing someone scream for help a couple blocks away is just a normal human ability though. There is a lot of high speed stuff that Nolan probably can do on reflex rather than perception. With enough experience it would hardly be an issue moving your arm into place as you do something faster than your brain can process it. Flash et al's super speed includes the ability to speedster process high level thought too, which is mostly a just an unneeded luxury in a fight.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 14:38 |
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It says something about Nolan's opinion of non-Viltrumites (and his character in general) when he says that Red Rush was sub-tier because super speed isn't "a primo super power" yet when you pay attention to the fight against the Guardians you notice that Red Rush actually contributes the most out of everyone. He constantly moves people out of the way of Nolan's blows, he still lays a pretty good licking on him. Red Rush, as a Flash knock-off, is pretty terrifying in terms of capabilities
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 15:00 |
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M_Gargantua posted:Hearing someone scream for help a couple blocks away is just a normal human ability though. You, uh, must not live in a city, huh? Around here I didn't hear a shootout that happened three blocks away, and the furthest I've heard a car collision is around the one block mark. When I hear a loud crunch but no breaking glass I don't even get up.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 16:04 |
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Aces High posted:It says something about Nolan's opinion of non-Viltrumites (and his character in general) when he says that Red Rush was sub-tier because super speed isn't "a primo super power" yet when you pay attention to the fight against the Guardians you notice that Red Rush actually contributes the most out of everyone. He constantly moves people out of the way of Nolan's blows, he still lays a pretty good licking on him. Red Rush, as a Flash knock-off, is pretty terrifying in terms of capabilities I have to imagine he was pretty salty about Red Rush getting in the way of so many of his kills.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:07 |
Blueberry Pancakes posted:I have to imagine he was pretty salty about Red Rush getting in the way of so many of his kills. given the way he killed him yeah i'd say he was a little miffed.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 19:13 |
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I'm annoyed he didn't aim at Omni-man's throat instead of his chest.
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# ? Jun 2, 2021 21:59 |
bump (rump) https://twitter.com/RetroFirearms/status/1401233730681950209?s=20
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# ? Jun 5, 2021 19:05 |
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Omni-man sort of looks like he could've been drawn by Tom of Finland and it'd look even better.
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# ? Jun 5, 2021 21:27 |
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I confused this with Irredeemable for 3 months and 1.5 episodes and I'm here to admit my shame
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# ? Jun 9, 2021 01:02 |
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I feel like super perception is implied from successfully playing catch around the Earth, given the ball’s travel time.
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# ? Jun 17, 2021 23:34 |
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wait so when's the next season start?
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# ? Jun 18, 2021 06:08 |
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Mr Interweb posted:wait so when's the next season start? Seems they waited to see how S1 went over before greenlighting s2 and s3, so I wouldn't hold your breath.
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# ? Jun 18, 2021 06:44 |
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mastajake posted:I feel like super perception is implied from successfully playing catch around the Earth, given the ball’s travel time. Yeah but thats just a cool scene. It was actually dumb as poo poo and how did Marks ball bounce off a mountain and still end up as if it had travelled around the world.
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# ? Jun 18, 2021 08:44 |