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Cicero posted:I'm sure the EU will issue a very strongly worded letter in response. Right on cue. https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1396487685011816449
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The RyanAir crew suddenly decided they wanted to check out all the beautiful spires in Minsk.
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God drat Ryanair, they say they fly to Vilnius airport and it turns out the airport is nearly 200km away
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forkboy84 posted:God drat Ryanair, they say they fly to Vilnius airport and it turns out the airport is nearly 200km away The Lithuanian pilot was having trouble understanding the french air traffic controller who was reading a cryklic air itenerary and redirected the flight.
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https://twitter.com/dpa_intl/status/1396918682027282440 https://twitter.com/NaomiOhReally/status/1396572001590992905
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i have a colleague in belarus, she's going to be stranded lol
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Cicero posted:I'm sure the EU will issue a very strongly worded letter in response. This post aged well
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V. Illych L. posted:i have a colleague in belarus, she's going to be stranded lol Fly to Moscow then fly anywhere you want. Same way if you want to go to Belarus right now.
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Deltasquid posted:This post aged well
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Cicero posted:I'm certainly glad to have been wrong Me too, the cynic in me keeps thinking the EU is only taking decisive action on such short notice this once because the stars aligned but it's good to see something being done for once
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Deltasquid posted:Me too, the cynic in me keeps thinking the EU is only taking decisive action on such short notice this once because the stars aligned but it's good to see something being done for once Well, the cynical view can also be that air travel is one of the few things that may impact our soulless EU technocrat over-lords in addition to us plebeians, so this is a rare situation where they're motivated to act decisively 
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Deltasquid posted:Me too, the cynic in me keeps thinking the EU is only taking decisive action on such short notice this once because the stars aligned but it's good to see something being done for once
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1397593570878570498?s=19 Yarrr! 
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Let's take a stroll on the magical land that is Belgian Politics. We have a far-right terrorist that was in the Military steal heavy weapons after he threatened the life of the virologist who's the public face of Covid measures in Flanders. Theo Francken, darling of the far-right Flemish party N-VA, is now saying that the (socialist) minister of Defense who took office in October has responsibility in the case. After the whole N-VA spent months attacking the virologist and painting him as a target. Same Theo Francken who once invited Saudi secret services to come pick up refugees he didn't want to deal with so they could be executed back home. There was also a study made to analyze why the two far-right parties in Flanders have such big scores in the polls while there is virtually nothing of the sort in Wallonia and Brussels. The TL;DR is in Wallonia, most media and mainstream parties refuse to give a platform to populist right-wing parties to let them spread their ideas. In Flanders, there is no such thing. Right-wing parties have been invited on TV shows for years, so they had all the time in the world to shift the Overton Window to the right.
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Skiant posted:Let's take a stroll on the magical land that is Belgian Politics. Thanks for this. Is it official policy in Wallonia to refuse platforms to the far right, or does that region just have a stronger civic tradition against rightist agitation?
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There's no real right wing populist party in Wallonia to draw people to the right. The far left PTB has been making headway as the current regional governments keep piling up scandals of various sizes, but there's no opposition drawing people to the right. One explanation is that the Walloon socialists have mostly remained socialists. In Flanders and other regions the socialist party has turned to the dreaded third way to follow the shifting Overton window, resulting in electoral loss upon electoral loss. In Wallonia they've kept defending the rights of workers, especially following the collapse of the mining and steel industry in the second half of the 20th century. So they've got a strong historical base to keep Wallonia mostly leftist. This has had the opposite effect in Flanders though. The right wing and liberal parties have made a lot of hay calling Walloon socialists whatever they feel like, because they are spending our money. Before rising Walloon unemployment happened the Flemish movement had a common enemy in the francophone Walloons that kinda dominated national politics, because French was the language of the elite up to world war 1. Flemings were regarded as second class citizens and this led to a lot of historical animosity that's still here today. During WW1 the German occupation saw fit to promote Flemish sentiment against Walloon to make occupation easier, and they did it again in WW2. An important part of the Flemish movement were kids of collaborators, and the current Flemish government even honoured 2 collaborators as being proponents of the Flemish cause. Studies have shown that there's no real difference between Flanders and Wallonia when it comes to hostility against immigrants, but the constant right wing opposition in Flanders poking up immigration as an electoral theme means that the far right keeps getting their viewpoints in the media.
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Congrats, once again, to extremely dumb foreigners, for making my country sounds far more cooler than it actually is. vvvvv Just for you : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkyF4gTm7cw Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 08:02 on May 28, 2021 |
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Disappointed at lack of Don Karnage in replies
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https://www.dw.com/en/belarus-lukashenko-slams-western-response-to-forced-plane-diversion/a-57665890 Lukeschenko's public reply to this was intereting. 'Hamas called in bomb threats via Switzerland, but that doesn't really matter as we caught the terrorist blogger.' I wonder if he is continuing to cause headaches for the Kremlin or if they enjoy having this Pitbull barking at the EU...
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lmao @ luka quadrupling down not like anything much is gonna happen to the guy, but still lol
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nimby posted:There's no real right wing populist party in Wallonia to draw people to the right. The far left PTB has been making headway as the current regional governments keep piling up scandals of various sizes, but there's no opposition drawing people to the right. That last one always kills me. Flemings were oppressed, yes, but mostly by Francophone Flemings, not by Walloons. Historically, I think most Belgian PMs were Flemish, for instance. Re: PS, while true, the Parti Socialiste made itself very easy targets due to the rampant poverty and corruption in most of Wallonia that, last time I checked, was on par with some regions in Romania. I think a lot of the old PS dinosaurs have gone the way of the dodo though, like André Flahaut, les trois Guys or the late Michel Daerden and I think someone like Paul Magnette is actually quite popular among Flemish leftists because at least he has the guts to stand up to Bart De Wever and his ilk on more than just rhetoric. As you say, perhaps the stronger mainstream reinforcement of left-wing messaging (even if the PS didn't do much to actually enact a decent agenda) has pushed disillusioned voters to the PTB instead of something like FN (do they still even exist in Wallonia?). Also, PTB-PVDA is a unitary party and while its rise has been less marked in Flanders, it still exists - it's a sizeable opposition bloc in cities like Ghent and Antwerp and is even part of a coalition government in Zelzate, which long had a very strong syndicalist bent. Of course, Flemish media treat PTB-PVDA like an afterthought. nimby posted:During WW1 the German occupation saw fit to promote Flemish sentiment against Walloon to make occupation easier, and they did it again in WW2. An important part of the Flemish movement were kids of collaborators, and the current Flemish government even honoured 2 collaborators as being proponents of the Flemish cause. Yes. Francophone Belgians are just as racist as their Flemish counterparts, but the media treatment is completely different. I would say that collaboration was stronger in Flanders in both WWs (due to the Flamenpolitik, as you mentioned) but let's not forget Léon Degrelle or that Francophone opposition to legitimate Flemish demands often maliciously painted moderate regionalist demands with the same brush as out-and-out Nazi collaborators.
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The delta between unemployment rates for Sweden/EU-born vs non-EU-born in Sweden is hilariously huge: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Migrant_integration_statistics_%E2%80%93_labour_market_indicators Eyeballing it, it looks like the difference between EU-born and non-EU-born is a bit under 4x, and between Sweden-born and non-EU-born is maybe like 5x. edit: in contrast, pre-pandemic the unemployment rate for foreign-born in the US was actually lower than for native-born, at 3.1% vs 3.8%, which doesn't seem to have been true for any EU countries. Cicero fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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From the Eurostat document:quote:The youth unemployment rate is the number of people aged 15 to 24 unemployed as a percentage of the labour force of the https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/11563107/3-01062021-BP-EN.pdf e: ^^^ That too. The Swedish labor market is depressingly discriminatory against immigrants, especially young immigrants. Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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I guess it's worth mentioning that there's ALOT of young swedes who work in sales, retail and the hotel and tourism industries in Norway. Or at least they did, before Covid times. Also, hasn't Spain's youth unemployment been at or near that level for well over a decade now (maybe even bordering on two)? It's kind of amazingly awful. Also worth mentioning the regional differences there between rich regions like Catalonia and regions like Jaen and such in the south.
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Italy has also the dubious honor of having had those poo poo numbers for a loooooooong time. With pronounced geographical disparities, some regions in the south boast of like 40%. Though with under the table work the real figure was probably lower. After covid, though, sheesh.
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These statistics are kind of dumb and myopic since they are only very loosely correlated to the standard of living or wealth inequality - which are far more important to people's life satisfaction than merely being employed.
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It's not life satisfaction that's being measured.
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This basically means you're looking at yet another generation of young people with a lost adulthood, who enter their thirties with little if any actual employment history, let alone savings or life milestones.
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It used to be, in Italy, that if you're entering the labor market post the 90s "reforms" all you can get is some lovely short term contracts for like sub-1k/month and move from poo poo job to poo poo job until you're lucky enough to land something in the public sector or some otherwise decent conditions employment. Past decade and its labor reforms mean that if you enter the labor market now all you'll see is 6 months internships, the vast majority of which unpaid or ~500/month, no way out unless you can land a public sector job or your daddy's got connections it's so loving bad you guys lol
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On a quick glance the EU doesn't seem to be particularly out of step with many other developed countries. For example, the youth unemployment rate in Canada was 16.7% vs the the EU's ~17%. Ghost Leviathan posted:This basically means you're looking at yet another generation of young people with a lost adulthood, who enter their thirties with little if any actual employment history, let alone savings or life milestones. Interestingly Spain and Italy already had equally high youth unemployment in the 80s and then in the 90s again. Seems like deeply structural problems that are just temporarily masked by economic booms from time to time.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:... Sweden at 25%? Finland at 20%? Not what you'd usually expect. And what's up with Luxembourg at 21%? 21% of young Luxembourgers being unemployed makes no sense, nearly double that of Belgium? I guess that could just be another one of the many statistics where the data for Luxembourg don't make any sense, but I don't see an obvious data issue, as there is for their divorce rate that is > 100%, or their GDP per capita triple that of France, or their alcohol sales per capita that are 3x the EU average and like 2x the next-highest in the EU.
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