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HenryJLittlefinger posted:Having the need to accelerate out of danger or through an obstacle or pass someone at high speed is mostly a thing you invent for yourself. Stay off the highway and build a good practical understanding of throttle and engine speed control before complicating things needlessly. I will be taking the advice of not accelerating away from problem areas. Probably less so staying off the highway. Thanks.
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pin it to win it
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Jun 1, 2021 16:46
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MomJeans420 posted:pin it to win it When in doubt, throttle out.
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Jun 1, 2021 18:18
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Collateral Damage posted:Blue ninja buddies. got a slip on Delkevic with the bike when i bought it, thinking of trying it out, the 650 stock sound is somewhat agricultural but i also dont want a bike thats louder than a garbage truck.
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Jun 1, 2021 18:42
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:Fix whisky throttle issue by cocking your wrist back a little/not grabbing the throttle with too forwardly rotated wrist and or lean forward a bit, keep your arm a little loose. Feathering the clutch isn't a fix, just a solution so you don't loose control. You won't die. In the nicest possible way: please don't dispense advice when you're still stumbling in the dark yourself. You're six steps up a 10,000 stair ziggurat telling the people at five steps you can see your house from up there. Myself and others have been climbing the thing for ages and we still can't see the top. 500excf type r posted:when your engine is bogging, shift down. Ding ding Martytoof posted:I seem to bog the engine a little on slow speed turns because the throttle tends to be choppy given anything but super smooth input in 1st and sometimes 2nd. I'll take slow turns in 3rd gear and can really feel the engine chugga chugga chugga. I can never remember whether I can alleviate this by being in 2nd and feathering the clutch a little to smooth out input or whether that's just a disaster waiting to happen. This is a normal thing, is one of the reasons starting on a 650 is stupid, and it gets worse the bigger your bike is in relation to cylinder count. Big v-twins are barely rideable in first without slipping the clutch so I usually put them in second and use lots of slip to keep poo poo smooth at low speeds. But low speeds only, you don't want to be unloading the driveline when you're really moving. You won't hurt the clutch or anything. For maximum slow smoothness, drag the rear brake and load the motor against it by slipping the clutch, it basically eliminates driveline lash and suspension movement and makes you look like a carpark master. HenryJLittlefinger posted:Correct on all three points. Hey come on, the page with the service intervals has some value too numberoneposter posted:its such a nice color. It will make the bike run worse, pipes lean out the engine slightly so if you want to gain anything but noise you'll need a power commander to go with.
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Jun 1, 2021 19:20
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There's one more important thing to know about shifting, and that's to do it *before* you need to do it. Give yourself the time to prepare for corners, overtaking and such, by shifting down well before you need the control or the power.
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Jun 1, 2021 19:57
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Slavvy posted:In the nicest possible way: please don't dispense advice when you're still stumbling in the dark yourself. You're six steps up a 10,000 stair ziggurat telling the people at five steps you can see your house from up there. Myself and others have been climbing the thing for ages and we still can't see the top. I'm just a little past mount stupid.
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Jun 1, 2021 20:26
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Mount stupid is when you're a year in and you've started to form a picture of what you're actually trying/supposed to do, you go faster and faster with wild confident abandon and then something unexpected happens and you crash viciously.
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Jun 1, 2021 20:31
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Martytoof posted:I seem to bog the engine a little on slow speed turns because the throttle tends to be choppy given anything but super smooth input in 1st and sometimes 2nd. I'll take slow turns in 3rd gear and can really feel the engine chugga chugga chugga. I can never remember whether I can alleviate this by being in 2nd and feathering the clutch a little to smooth out input or whether that's just a disaster waiting to happen. You can ride the clutch a great deal, don't be afraid of it.
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Jun 1, 2021 21:10
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Slavvy posted:Hey come on, the page with the service intervals has some value too
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Jun 1, 2021 21:49
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Finally got the motorcycle back today after 6 weeks at the shop for a fixing a botched warranty repair.  Just in time for summer to kick it into high gear.  @Slavvy: it was a bad noise. Received a new set of bearings, gaskets, and an oil pump rebuild.
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Jun 1, 2021 23:15
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I'm doing my oil and cleaning the chain today. Mine is due for that 500 mile service interval. Not sure what I'm gonna do for that yet, my dealer is an hour away. There's a local specialty bike garage I might check out and ask them to look it over and let them know I did the oil.
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Jun 1, 2021 23:18
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Phone posted:Finally got the motorcycle back today after 6 weeks at the shop for a fixing a botched warranty repair. Sell the bike. Not joking. Dealer monkeys have taken apart your engine. Sell the bike.
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Jun 2, 2021 00:14
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Slavvy posted:Sell the bike. This is the 2nd time dealers have taken apart the motor. I have to sell it in under a year anyways, so putting a few thousand miles on it before making it someone else’s basket case doesn’t seem too bad. E: should have specified, Honda covered it under warranty due to work that was done previously due to the crank recall. Phone fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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In a first for me, someone started reversing toward me at a traffic light. And the car had no reverse lights or brake lights, so I was pretty rattled to see a car all of a sudden backing into me. Fortunately I left plenty of space between myself and the car in front and could easily swerve. The driver was trying to get into a different lane to make a turn, but he waved at me, so I guess that means I have to forgive him. Also, is it appropriate to give the motorcycle wave/salute to cops on motorcycles? I passed a line of them today and couldn't make up my mind.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:14
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Phone posted:This is the 2nd time dealers have taken apart the motor. Honestly it sounds like they hosed up the warranty repair and that's what caused your second problem. T Zero posted:In a first for me, someone started reversing toward me at a traffic light. And the car had no reverse lights or brake lights, so I was pretty rattled to see a car all of a sudden backing into me. Fortunately I left plenty of space between myself and the car in front and could easily swerve. The driver was trying to get into a different lane to make a turn, but he waved at me, so I guess that means I have to forgive him. How white are you?
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Jun 2, 2021 01:20
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I am a shade of mocha with extra cream and have a non-European name.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:25
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T Zero posted:Also, is it appropriate to give the motorcycle wave/salute to cops on motorcycles? I passed a line of them today and couldn't make up my mind. lol do whatever you want, but anyone on a bike / scooter gets a wave from me
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Jun 2, 2021 01:26
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T Zero posted:I am a shade of mocha with extra cream and have a non-European name. Then it's 50/50 whether they wave back or interpret the gesture as reaching for a weapon and shoot you in self defence. right arm posted:lol do whatever you want, but anyone on a bike / scooter gets a wave from me Cops aren't people, they're a waste of perfectly good baggers/goldwings.
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Slavvy posted:Honestly it sounds like they hosed up the warranty repair and that's what caused your second problem. The PO (one of the POs?) had the bike when the recall was done, I picked it up used in October. I thought I heard something on the way back... turns out I did hear something. The independent shop said "I don't hear anything", you indicated that the sound might be Quite Bad, and I rode it until the sound was Undeniably Bad. The dealer I took it to covered the work under warranty because it was coming from the bottom end. I haven't ridden it in about 6 weeks, it sounded fine and pulled strong on the way back home. I'll put some miles on it this week, but for now I'm content.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:32
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ACAB, never wave at cops
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ONLY TRUST YOUR FISTS
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Jun 2, 2021 03:03
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I watched a university motocop blow a red the other night while out riding my bicycle. Cops of every kind can get hosed.
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Jun 2, 2021 04:21
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Slavvy posted:
Haha, this is exactly what they teach here when youre doing motorcycle license here, havent had issues turning slow on any of the bikes Ive rode so far doing this.
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Jun 2, 2021 05:50
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I wave at motorcycle cops because they are just cool riders here, but my cops aren't american cops so IDK.
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Jun 2, 2021 06:16
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Last outing I waved at a guy on a veteran moped. My instructor thought that was funny, but I don't think it's right to discriminate based on displacement. Dude waved back too. I still smile when I think back on that ride. The weather was perfect and I got to pick a route on twisty little used rural roads that I knew about from driving them. So much fun, never went above third gear in the twisty bits. I still got mental overload, lost concentration and got sleepy afterwards but my focus lasted more than an hour this time so it's getting better. We still haven't been on the highway but I'm not in any particular rush to try that out. Need to give it a go before my licence exam ride though so I at least know what it's like. I haven't worn earplugs while riding yet but I'm gonna try that next time we ride roads and I'll wear them when I go on the highway for sure. Next outing is probably gonna be low speed practice. Not super fun but necessary.
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Invalido posted:Next outing is probably gonna be low speed practice. Not super fun but necessary. It can be! It's really satisfying to feel your turns get tighter and tighter, stopping distance get shorter, and clutch-brake-throttle transitions get smoother. Exaggerate pointing your chin in the direction you want the bike to go, keep your weight on the pegs, and shift your butt around on the seat.
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I do kinda like low speed stuff. It feels safer to try to get some real decent lean on the bike at like 15mph vs highway speeds. Sometimes I feel like I might scrape my boot but it's probably not possible on my bike and it's just my imagination. It's kinda cool I have 3 other friends looking at bikes now, cuz I keep pulling up on mine and it looks fun. SSH IT ZOMBIE fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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My MSF class didn't get rescheduled again so this weekend I get to see what this biek thing is all about.
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Jun 3, 2021 07:11
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Youre about to have so much fun
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Jun 3, 2021 07:30
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Patrocclesiastes posted:Youre about to have so much fun
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T Zero posted:In a first for me, someone started reversing toward me at a traffic light. And the car had no reverse lights or brake lights, so I was pretty rattled to see a car all of a sudden backing into me. Fortunately I left plenty of space between myself and the car in front and could easily swerve. The driver was trying to get into a different lane to make a turn, but he waved at me, so I guess that means I have to forgive him. Give them the finger
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So based off my last ride around town, my next parking lot practice will be - in addition to the usual low speed cornering and turns and such - starting on a hill. Smoothly. Without stalling or stressing. The parking lot near me has one of those dual-level lots, where the one in the back of the building has a ramp up to get there, so I can at least work on this not on a real street. I understand intellectually what I need to do. I think. Sit on the rear brake, throttle up, ease off the clutch until I feel it pulling, let go of the brake while I apply more throttle, profit. Is that basically it? Is there any other advice I need to keep in mind? Generally I think my taking off from a dead stop is fine and reasonably smooth, but it's not terribly fast yet. Which is fine, and I imagine that'll come with time, but I just get stressed about holding up traffic for like the extra two seconds.
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Sounds right to me, remember you can drag the rear brake a bit even as you're moving so don't feel like you have to let off the brake too soon and risk going backwards into the car that pulls up too close behind you at a light. When I was first starting out I'd have the occasional stall even though I felt like I was getting the hang of it (I live in a hilly area so I was forced to get used to taking off on a hill all the time). I went to the local empty parking lot and spent probably under 10 mins just playing with the clutch and its engagement point, after that I didn't really have issues anymore.
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Not advice, but sometimes I'll just sit at a light on a hill and put my foot behind the foot peg and let it dig into my shin like a man, not use any brake, the bike is being stopped from rolling back by my left foot. Other times I'll use the front brake with two fingers and roll the throttle on and work the clutch simultaneously at take off. I have not thought about using the rear brake and appreciate that info. I haven't had an issue with stalling but all of the options I've tried are awkward and I never did a search to see if there was a better solution. I really love this thread.
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Jun 3, 2021 18:22
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It's good you know how to do it now using the rear brake. It's incredible America lets people buy and ride motorcycles without making sure they know even the most basic poo poo like hillstarts (this isn't your fault, Shitzombs).
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Jun 3, 2021 18:36
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A lot of America has no hills lol But also like America has basically zero instruction on anything, to get your driver’s license you basically just need to roughly keep in your lane for a couple blocks in some states. Also states’ rights and all that for setting their own regulations
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:Not advice, but sometimes I'll just sit at a light on a hill and put my foot behind the foot peg and let it dig into my shin like a man, not use any brake, the bike is being stopped from rolling back by my left foot. I can't imagine not using the rear brake; juggling the throttle and clutch and front brake with my hands while worrying about rolling back? Nope. Though also, if you're sitting on a hill and facing up, the bike's weight is going to shift onto the rear wheel anyway so you'll get better braking from that, rather than the front. Steakandchips posted:It's incredible America lets people buy and ride motorcycles without making sure they know even the most basic poo poo like hillstarts (this isn't your fault, Shitzombs). It's pretty bullshit, I can't lie. I remember taking the MSF course and thinking, "hooray, I'm officially licensed to brap around an empty parking lot going like 25mph but gently caress it they're letting me take off on a freeway going 85."
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:Not advice, but sometimes I'll just sit at a light on a hill and put my foot behind the foot peg and let it dig into my shin like a man, not use any brake, the bike is being stopped from rolling back by my left foot.  ... left foot or right foot?
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Dzurlord posted:I can't imagine not using the rear brake; juggling the throttle and clutch and front brake with my hands while worrying about rolling back? Nope. Better braking? Mate we are talking about a static bike, there are no dynamic braking forces involved. Doesn't matter which brake you use for holding on an incline, as long as it's stopped and you can manage to take off. Still, most of the time the rear just makes more sense.
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