Golli posted:

Yeah - the fantasy world where people would flock back to movie theaters now that restrictions are being lifted, resulting in huge profits is about to hit the brick wall of reality. By and large, going to a movie theater sucks worse now than it did pre-pandemic. I went to a screening of A Quiet Place 2 last weekend, the first day that the theater had resumed a normal operating schedule. They had reserved seating, with blocked off seats separating your group from surrounding groups.

It was miserable - the place was filthy, despite having had months of little to no use. The bathrooms were worse than rest area bathrooms. The 'blocked off seats' were apparently just a suggestion as people sat in them anyway. Coupled with the normal hazards of kids talking and laughing thoughout the movie, etc, it was just not a fun time.

1/10 - would not recommend - amc is dying.

I said come in! posted:

Absolutely nothing about an NFT game sounds like a good idea. Pretty much worst than any mobile gacha game.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1400441325040844804
https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1400442074286133249

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Nothing that Chris Roberts has ever suggested is beyond the realms of possibility in game development and people who follow the technicalities of game development know that he is not looking to create a miracle, only to take aspects of existing game development and cutting edge R&D that are normally only attempted in isolation and put them all together in one package - this takes time and money which is normally in short supply by the private funding model. What Chris does is listen to the community and where a possibility arises he will take advantage of it if it is reasonable. For example procedural generation of planets, and everything that came from it, was serendipity - Chris had no plan for it, he just happened to inherit CryTeks R&D team at a time when the community were expressing dissatisfaction at an answer Chris gave about not being able to fly down to planets and moons ourselves.

Why do you think the likes of Forbes react badly to a community funded project? Why should they give a drat about it? Who reads Forbes Magazine, is it the avid gamer or the investor? There are no gang of impatient private investors looking to cash in with Star Citizen thumping the boardroom table every time a delay is announced. Even those who went to the gaming community directly to raise funds had the impression from this traditional model that they must rush to a marketable product asap (Elite Dangerous for example) instead of trusting their community to support a project over the long term as long as they understand that it will take a long time, money and patience. No-one ever thought of providing a game to players while it was being made!

Those who criticise Chris Roberts constantly fail to realise the ones they are insulting is not CIG and it's board members, it's us, the community - because they just don't seem to get it. Comparing this project to other games is pointless, we never wanted standard game development in this project, that's why we had no choice but to go with community funded development no-one else would even attempt what we were asking. We owe a debt of gratitude to Chris Roberts for committing many years of his life (he had very young children when he started this project and he was a millionaire) to making our dream game when he could have made his dream game in a lot less time. Chris more than anyone knew the grief he would get from the standard model investor dominated industry, perhaps he didn't realise how personal and vitriolic it could get.

The dream was not 'the game' the dream was a universe created in partnership with it's community, it's actually 3 AAA title single player games and 1 massive MMO but that doesn't fit their negative narrative does it? That is what CIG are working on concurrently as well as building a cross-platform gaming experience not seen before by acting in close partnership with other companies willing to push the boundaries, but that escapes the naysayers. They are building that universe for us which can grow and grow, they are building a franchise just like Star Trek or Star Wars. It was the dream of a community to say 'up yours' to the private developers with their 'Profits now! New rehashed game next quarter!' attitudes and cash-machine development cycles and we have done that! That was always the dream, to have a game made in partnership with those who would play it. To see what was possible if we tried giving the PLAYERS what THEY dreamed of for once, not what the influencers could schill onto us again and again at the behest of the corporate suit types.

Squadron 42 Chapter 1 and it's 2 sequels is the game Chis Roberts originally pitched for, and his fanbase said yes. Star Citizen the MMO is what the greater community told him he would need to make to get support for HIS dream game, and he said yes. He was the only one who would even consider it at the time.

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I have a suspicion that they are trialling static (bubble) server meshing right now. I don't know the technicalities or logistics of them firing up a meshed mini-PU for testing in a way players wouldn't be able to detect from standard server handling. Players are reporting bugs.. which might just be bugs.. but they could be symptoms of information loss in the transfer from one server to the next.

They are all happening in QT and this jibes well with something that Clive Johnson said many months ago, that static bubbles of the Stanton System could be loaded and meshed whereby you transfer from server to server way out in space - where players would by necessity likely be in QT. You could fly in normal flight from location to location taking many many hours but as far as I'm aware only one person has ever tried it, from Crusader to Yela - and he ran out oxygen. I'm sure the CIG team know exactly how long ships can go before they lose hydrogen fuel or oxygen, ergo they know where it is very unlikely players will be without being in QT. For example:

Player reports loss of connection to server, empty chat window (F11 menu) during QT, controls not responding - a separate server controls chat but it links to the server population the player is on. Player reconnects after several minutes and continues playing, chat window populates. As the OP says they will test mechanics before committing resources and the disconnect/reconnect without needing to go back to the main menu is a requirement for server meshing. Previously if you were D/K'd from the server for a even a few seconds you were kicked from the client back to the menu.

Players ships are losing atmosphere in QT, very few reports. Most might not notice this since generally we keep our helmets on during QT.

Earlier in the year a small number of players were reporting that their ship disappeared from around them leaving them in empty space during QT. This stopped almost as soon as it was reported but wasn't listed as a bug fix afaik. This is an object container hierarchy problem.

Very lately players have been saying '30K coming!' in chat in the game (again chat is handled by a different server) while other players in the same chat are saying the server is working fine, those expecting 30K are then saying the server 'recovered' because their controls have now become responsive again (doors opening etc), there is no known way for a server to 'recover' and if the players are disconnecting/reconnecting successfully this in-and-of-itself means that meshing is possible.

If there were to be bugs associated with server meshing, these look to me (an untrained eye to be sure) like the types of disconnect/reconnect bugs you might expect. They are not like bugs we have seen before. Who knows? We've not seen servers spontaneously recover from being the already dead parrot Clive Johnson indicated a 30K was due to (players don't know if a server is dying, they only know when it is dead but their local client continues on anyway). Maybe one day they'll tell us all about the road to server meshing, and where the secret behind the scenes stuff was happening. What I do know is that the pace of player facing new developments in the game seems to have picked up markedly in the last 6 months, compared to previous years. It's almost as if some 'core dependency' all those eagerly awaited features had been waiting for was ready for primetime.

Mirificus posted:

Thoatse posted:

https://i.imgur.com/YgNSGg4.gifv

Defiance Industries posted:

Disco Elysium came out in 2019. Bethesda's just not very good at writing games, it's not that they're forced to suppress the talent that they don't have.

I said come in! posted:

"Nothing that Chris Roberts has ever suggested is beyond the realms of possibility in game development"

I mean I think technically this isn't wrong, but there is a reason why no one else is attempting this level of space sim either. Elite Dangerous is as good as it will ever get.

Lammasu posted:

The Wing Commander movie is up on YouTube for free. I've never seen this but I've wanted to since I became fascinated with Star Citizen. Wish me luck.

commando in tophat posted:

So I never played Morrowind like a heathen I am, does it still hold up, or is it just a nostalgia and actual gameplay is clunky and obtuse? I certainly preferred oblivion's magic system to skyrim's, where you could craft a light spell that would last minutes and fireball that would cost all your mana. In contrast, skyrim let you get gear that would make spells free, but that was really boring

Lammasu posted:

The Wing Commander movie is up on YouTube for free. I've never seen this but I've wanted to since I became fascinated with Star Citizen. Wish me luck.

I said come in! posted:

It's that dog from the Simpsons.

Mirificus posted:

quote:

Even those who went to the gaming community directly to raise funds had the impression from this traditional model that they must rush to a marketable product asap (Elite Dangerous for example) instead of trusting their community to support a project over the long term as long as they understand that it will take a long time, money and patience. No-one ever thought of providing a game to players while it was being made!

Bofast posted:

You could just have watched the Spoony review of it to get the idea
Morrowind is mostly still pretty cool, imo. Our PC could barely run it without crashing when I was young, so I've mainly tried it in the last few years.

If you mostly just want the vanilla experience and don't need all the crazy mods ever made you could go for OpenMW which gives you a fresh engine that has most of the functionality of the original but without being programmed by Bethesda or from 2002. You still have to install the original, though, so you can point the OpenMW engine to where the game assets are located.
I would still recommend getting a mod that adds at least a tiny bit of mana regen over time, since Morrowind doesn't give you that by default, and probably a mod that makes the levelling system a bit less weird. Having to level up your "other" skills X number of times before leveling up your major or minor skills to get the next character level with higher stat boosts than if you didn't was a pretty dumb system.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1400441325040844804
https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1400442074286133249

Armitag3 posted:

Lol, FOMO the Game. Fear Of Missing Out is the common thread between this latest hack game, SC, the scam MMO, etc. How many polygons, the blockchain, NFTs, whatever - those are straws that the whales grasp at to try and justify that, at the end of the day, they're paying for a ticket, for a seat that hasn't been installed, in a ride that hasn't been designed, in an fairground that hasn't been built, because they're sick of being inconsequential dust in this careless world.

Mirificus posted:

FishMcCool posted:

You don't have to do this. Like, really. You really don't have to do this.

Trust me. I've seen it at the cinema, and I wish I could erase those memories.

TheAgent posted:

I was looking through some of the biggest star citizen supporters and well well, surprise surprise most of them are on SC_trades and hey, lookie at that, most of them are huge into NFTs, crypto and the latest fun fad of AMC/GameStop HODLing

its uh not going great for them atm (AMC stock has halted trading btw because of a 30%+ drop in share price lol)

some people have just lost tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars lol and they think its going to go back up (hint: its not)

this was from yesterday
guy just bought in at $60~ yesterday. predictions are it'll be under $10 a share in a month

Mirificus posted:

NumptyScrub posted:

I would disagree with that statement based purely on the specific mention of "game development". Sure, nothing Chris has suggested promised is beyond the realms of possibility in software simulations, but it is out of scope in game development because people want more than 0.1fps in a game. Games need to be processed in real time.

Chris' fully realised fidelity vision with gas propagation, and physicalised ship component interactions, and all the other pipedreams.txt is IMO too complex to simulate in real time on client PCs, and that's why they can't get the drat thing working as promised, and never will get the drat thing working without using the same cheats other game devs use.

Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1400442074286133249

Dwesa posted:

another "THE ULTIMATE SANDBOX MMORPG"

oh ffs, just play ffxiv

Dwesa posted:

another "THE ULTIMATE SANDBOX MMORPG"

oh ffs, just play ffxiv

I said come in! posted:

"Nothing that Chris Roberts has ever suggested is beyond the realms of possibility in game development"

I mean I think technically this isn't wrong, but there is a reason why no one else is attempting this level of space sim either. Elite Dangerous is as good as it will ever get.

Bofast posted:

Weirdly enough, Bethesda is pretty decent at designing the occasional little side quest or random cave with short bits of text to discover. If they just stopped trying to turn "find missing family member" into some kind of grand main quest for a Fallout game they would be in a much better place.

NumptyScrub posted:

I would disagree with that statement based purely on the specific mention of "game development". Sure, nothing Chris has suggested promised is beyond the realms of possibility in software simulations, but it is out of scope in game development because people want more than 0.1fps in a game. Games need to be processed in real time.

Chris' fully realised fidelity vision with gas propagation, and physicalised ship component interactions, and all the other pipedreams.txt is IMO too complex to simulate in real time on client PCs, and that's why they can't get the drat thing working as promised, and never will get the drat thing working without using the same cheats other game devs use.

William Bear posted:

Other red flags used in promoting scam MMOs: "It's a game where you can go anywhere and do anything" or "It's the last game you'll ever want to play."

The Titanic posted:

And I'll know you're serious if a basic thing is the price of a normal retail game and a bigger thing is the cost of a real car. And if you hide some costs from me until I'm enlightened and have proven my gullible nature... I will just not stop buying it all.

akkristor posted:

Scientology would like to know your location.

Scruffpuff posted:

saturating every pipeline in the flow.

The Titanic posted:

Rockstar could probably get closest. But not every company is Rockstar, with their level of talent and skill and years of game history allowing them to do this kind of thing.

Deskeletonized posted:

There are actual cults with less robust conceptual defense mechanisms and less sophisticated language manipulation. T-minus how long until we find the Crobbler mummified, wrapped in Christmas lights, and bedazzled with glitter paint on a bed in his mansion?

trucutru posted:

It's on the schedule so it'll be on time