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Ivypls posted:david cage is the kind of dipshit loser that has definitely been having a low key inner meltdown ever since elliot page came out this is absolutely guaranteed to be true
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Jun 5, 2021 08:26
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“But I’m not under oath, so can I lie?” Who else heard this in Lionel Hutz’s voice?
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Jun 5, 2021 08:28
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Ivypls posted:david cage is the kind of dipshit loser that has definitely been having a low key inner meltdown ever since elliot page came out I'd wager he's just perpetually pissed that one of his precious artistic pieces is forever tainted by having a queer protagonist. Out of curiosity, did Beyond: Two Souls ever patch to update Elliot's name in the credits? (I fully assume the answer is no of course)
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Jun 5, 2021 08:36
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stillvisions posted:I'm waiting for the inevitable "scandal" one day where a group decides to do a "worked" RPG session and pretend it's not scripted. Pro RPG shoots versus works. oh D&D grogs have been grumbling about Critical Role "fakeness" and Matt Mercers DM style for years and how that show ~ruined~ roleplaying
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Jun 5, 2021 09:36
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Detroit is a funny game. The Hank/Connor stuff is legitimately fun, it's a classic old grumpy detective has to work with rookie story and that part of the game is genuinely pretty good and I think Hank and Conner make a good duo. Then you have the other part of the game, where the robot pulls himself out of the garbage and grabs a super cool trench coat that just happens to be there waiting for him, in the pouring rain, and this is not meant to be a joke scene
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Jun 5, 2021 09:45
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Ivypls posted:david cage is the kind of dipshit loser that has definitely been having a low key inner meltdown ever since elliot page came out Grain of salt and all that, but Quantic Dream doesn’t “make games for fags,” Cage allegedly says. 
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Jun 5, 2021 10:03
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fatherboxx posted:oh D&D grogs have been grumbling about Critical Role "fakeness" and Matt Mercers DM style for years and how that show ~ruined~ roleplaying I have never watched an episode of Critical Role and I am one hundred percent confident that they're just upset that he's good at it Bakeneko posted:“But I’m not under oath, so can I lie?” 
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Jun 5, 2021 10:42
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There is a listicles channel called Outside Xbox that produces the usual top ten gaming stuff that you would expect but they also have a DnD campaign called Oxventure that is surprisingly very good/funny. If you enjoy comedy DnD ala Dragon Friends or Harmonquest then check it out.
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Jun 5, 2021 10:50
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don longjohns posted:I do not understand the appeal of a D&D podcast. I just don't. I run games every week and have even been paid to do so, and I just... I don't get it. I think you answered your own question there. I'd reckon a lot of people listening don't have the opportunity for regular games for a variety of reasons, so the podcasts can act as filler.
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Jun 5, 2021 10:59
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Macaluso posted:Detroit is a funny game. The Hank/Connor stuff is legitimately fun, it's a classic old grumpy detective has to work with rookie story and that part of the game is genuinely pretty good and I think Hank and Conner make a good duo. Don't forget the third part of the game where you have the servant robot risking her life constantly to save a little girl, and ends up undercutting all the questions it raises about human/robot bonds and whether a robot woman could be a parent to a human girl by revealing that the little girl was also a robot. If the game had been focused solely on Hank/Connor with Connor merely investigating the the other characters' stuff happening in the background, it could have been a much better game. Marcus would have been a great antagonist to Connor
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Jun 5, 2021 12:27
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https://twitter.com/itsTomokocchi/status/1400578665574961158 There was also Woolie's deep, deflating sigh when the android was told to stand at the back of the bus.
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Jun 5, 2021 13:19
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Alacron posted:I'm really eager to see if Monday's Jimquisition is gonna be about David Cage Also you know he is a big bag of poo poo if he is a public figure losing a PR case with sexual pest poo poo in loving France. Dude is a giant sack of poo poo and hack fraud. Famethrowa posted:Knowing how Cage treated Elliot Page, and how much Elliot suffered with the industries sexulisation of him prior to coming out, i hope they throw the loving book at Cage.
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Jun 5, 2021 13:21
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The buddy-cop dynamic in Detroit is so good I wish it was a game by itself, and not directed by that prick.
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Jun 5, 2021 14:13
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i, too, agree that detroit would have been cool if it was a different game directed by a different person
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Jun 5, 2021 14:17
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Cage sucks rear end, but Detroit was neat enough, mainly for Connor and Hank's bits obviously.
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Jun 5, 2021 15:27
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Wasn't a lot of Connor and Hank just Clancy Brown and Bryan Dechart developing their own chemistry during the shoot, and Cage was more hands-off with them?
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Jun 5, 2021 15:36
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that would explain why it's good then
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Jun 5, 2021 15:42
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Cage actively hated everything they were doing and kept trying to get them to stop
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Jun 5, 2021 15:49
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:At some point the mcelroys forgot that TAZ was supposed to be a funny DnD podcast and not a Meaningful Moving piece of Important Fiction and it’s been kind of poo poo ever since, and the real proof is that their oneshots are still consistently loving hilarious because 90 minutes of improvisational comedy isn’t enough time to set up a bunch of maudlin bullshit and sad backstories I feel like a lot of modern comedy falls into this. Archer is a James Bond wanna be who is an utter prick to everyone around him. But then he starts caring about the people around him, especially Lana. Thats one example i can think of.
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Jun 5, 2021 15:49
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Dabir posted:Cage actively hated everything they were doing and kept trying to get them to stop I remember hearing that, too. But I don't have the receipts.
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Jun 5, 2021 15:54
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Dabir posted:Cage actively hated everything they were doing and kept trying to get them to stop there's a lot of talk about death of the author in art but im pretty interested in art that defies the artist because other people are involved in the process
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Jun 5, 2021 15:56
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CYBEReris posted:there's a lot of talk about death of the author in art but im pretty interested in art that defies the artist because other people are involved in the process I mean, that's partially what Death of the Author is about, you don't have an absolute "text", or rather, every text is a multitude of texts. So when you have something like a performing art, the people involved in performing it create a new text themselves. There's probably something more specific to acting/theater but I'm not familiar with that kind of theory.
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Jun 5, 2021 16:10
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David cage is the kind of designer that wants to make a movie instead but not a good one. Cinematically control the speed your hero opens a cupboard door, use every bathroom in the game. I really did dig that stuff in Farenheit, but the story just went bonkers in a really stupid and dull way. The main character died and became a matrix man, the villain was the ai manifestation of the internet. But all it meant was some incomprehensable fight sceenes going on in the background while you played the same old simon says qtes in the foreground. I never touched any of the later Quantic Dreams games despite being a huge fan of story driven adevnture game stuff because of how bad Farenheit ended. Sounds like I made the right call. I did play a bit of Omikron though, which is absolutely facinating. All of David Cage's storytelling 'style' but in an era where they still put in gameplay so its paired with the worst the 90s had to offer in terms of bad shooting in enormous bland levels. But its an actual huge fairly open world that you get to explore, and has a system where you can possess npcs and this meta layer where 'your soul' specifically has been pulled into the game. You can let the main character die and continue playing. Its so ambitious and interesting but absolutely dogshit to actually play. And then theres david bowie voicing 2 characters and providing extended versions of his songs with the word 'omikron' awkwardly inserted for the soundtrack which rules. But yeah Cage is an awful creep and anyone who's played any one of his games shouldn't be suprised at that fact. Even omikron has awkard sex scenes (which is worse, farenheits 'sex scene occurs after main character is canonicaly a walking corpse' or Omikron's 'casually have sex with another persons wife while you're possesing their body'?).
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Jun 5, 2021 16:27
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Fahrenheit is the closets gaming will ever get to The Room. That game's plot nose dives into crazy so loving fast. Also someone needs to tell David Cage that you never go full Tommy Wesieu.
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Jun 5, 2021 16:41
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I still like the game for as crazy as it gets, but man, playing the demo back in the day, which was just the really cool intro murder scene in the diner, then seeing the rest of the game was some of the fastest "Man, this is crazy, this rules" to "Holy poo poo what is this"
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Jun 5, 2021 16:53
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Goddamn yeah the Indigo prophecy demo was cool. Covering up a crime and then investigating the crime scene as another character was great
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Jun 5, 2021 17:00
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The Chad Jihad posted:Goddamn yeah the Indigo prophecy demo was cool. Covering up a crime and then investigating the crime scene as another character was great I love how nothing since ever lived up to this.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:10
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Arbite posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqf4lOZEank Holy loving poo poo, that last video is some incel copaganda that doesn't even bother to paint over the racism.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:20
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPE
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Jun 5, 2021 17:24
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BigRed0427 posted:Fahrenheit is the closets gaming will ever get to The Room. That game's plot nose dives into crazy so loving fast. It's amazing how you can pinpoint the exact moment the game goes irrevocably into the toilet too; Stepping onto the roof of the orphanage. Dabir posted:Cage actively hated everything they were doing and kept trying to get them to stop Honestly I'd believe it. There's elements of Cage's typical touches, but it's coached in far better game design than usual and feels like it came out decent in spite of itself. Mr Phillby posted:But yeah Cage is an awful creep and anyone who's played any one of his games shouldn't be suprised at that fact. Even omikron has awkard sex scenes (which is worse, farenheits 'sex scene occurs after main character is canonicaly a walking corpse' or Omikron's 'casually have sex with another persons wife while you're possesing their body'?). David Cage transparently has a type; Short-haired brunettes (And incidentally one of the ways you can kinda guess David Cage didn't get his way in making Detroit is because Kara never gets naked or does anything sexual  ). Elliot page coming out as trans after *points at burning dumpster fire of Beyond: Two Souls' development* must surely be pushing him close to an aneurysm.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:34
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The deep Rich & Mike lore of them being extras in Never Been Kissed and refusing to turn up for the shoot on the second day because of how loving miserable the experience was is incredible.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:35
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Jimbot posted:Holy loving poo poo, that last video is some incel copaganda that doesn't even bother to paint over the racism. Yeah I thought they were being kinda uncharacteristically lefty by talking about how the cop was a hero for shooting black people, but no. That's what the movie showed.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:39
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fatherboxx posted:oh D&D grogs have been grumbling about Critical Role "fakeness" and Matt Mercers DM style for years and how that show ~ruined~ roleplaying Has anyone gone full conspiracy theory yet with several hour long videos ranting about this? Not that I want to watch that but oh man that would be something. That takes things beyond "how dare you create media not made for me" into the hilarity of "how dare you consume media differently than me". Things like CR have definitely changed how people go in to playing D&D mindset-wise, or at least bumped up interest for one segment of play style. I think the story is the same as ever - you need to find a group with a similar play style to yours, and the new crowd is very much the antithesis of the stats-mongers and item-collectors crowd. I hate the stats mongers but not sure the new play style is my thing either - I've always been a little more on the casual RPG style and friends' tales of the characters that people run with now sounds like a party of super-extra characters. I don't think I could handle that energy level anymore, but I'm glad D&D has managed to accidentally reach out to an entirely new crowd for it.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:55
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I have to resume my Critical Role watch. I left off around episode 100. They recently wrapped up campaign 2 so that got me fired up to get back into them.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:58
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Within the next month, David Cage is gonna get drunk and post something really stupid online that makes his lawyer quit.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:58
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Honestly I'd believe it. There's elements of Cage's typical touches, but it's coached in far better game design than usual and feels like it came out decent in spite of itself. I've always said that as to why I honestly liked Detroit a good bit, it's a David Cage game, but it also feels like the most reined in he's been.
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Jun 5, 2021 18:18
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Veotax posted:The deep Rich & Mike lore of them being extras in Never Been Kissed and refusing to turn up for the shoot on the second day because of how loving miserable the experience was is incredible. I love that they managed to identify Rich in the crowd wandering around the carnival all alone at 4 am. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJpnzpCjmcs Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jun 5, 2021 |
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Jun 5, 2021 18:33
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Yardbomb posted:I've always said that as to why I honestly liked Detroit a good bit, it's a David Cage game, but it also feels like the most reined in he's been. Yeah, it writes like a David Cage game but when it comes to the moments you expect the plot to hard-swerve and poo poo the bed it just... doesn't. Like someone cracked the reins and said no to keep it on track.
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Jun 5, 2021 18:45
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Yeah, it writes like a David Cage game but when it comes to the moments you expect the plot to hard-swerve and poo poo the bed it just... doesn't. Like someone cracked the reins and said no to keep it on track. oh i dunno the Actual Robot Extermination Camp was a bit much
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Samovar posted:I remember hearing that, too. But I don't have the receipts. Bryan Dechart said basically "yeah a lot of the best stuff between Hank and Connor were done in spite of David Cage" in a livestream.
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