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I'm not a fighter pilot but I do know if you lock on a friendly plane your plane will tell you that you are loving up big-time.
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Jun 6, 2021 05:21
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pancake rabbit posted:lol no  apparently he had an alien phobia as a child, so maybe it really is just him desperately not wanting it to be true lol anyways here's another video that helps to debunk west's poo poo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcwjTImVBl8
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Jun 6, 2021 05:22
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"the incidents may actually have a mundane explanation" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvK6KsLkPUs
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Jun 6, 2021 05:23
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Hodgepodge posted:yeah its the bending space part that (in some versions of the idea) allow for causality-violation free ftl No I think you misunderstand. It overcomes the infinite energy necessary to accelerate mass to light speed, it does not in any way deal with the fact that a ship that ends up somewhere faster than light can create all sorts of causality breaking paradoxes
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Jun 6, 2021 05:24
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BeefThief posted:I'm not a fighter pilot but I do know if you lock on a friendly plane your plane will tell you that you are loving up big-time. yeah that's one of the reasons why he's full of poo poo he apparently has an incomplete/outdated idea of how radars and military pilots operate, and tries to claim that objects were spotted by lone pilots, and lone radars (that he thinks are a screen with dots that you look down at, ignoring that modern ones operate via fancy HUDS that allow you to look at objects by eye at the same time that your radar targets them, and that they let you know when you target friendly vehicles), simply malfunctioned/made a whoopsie doodle, and completely ignores that the objects were simultaneously spotted by multiple pilots, by eye, and multiple radars on various planes/ships, as well as civilian radar in at least one case (i think that was the tic tac incident) Rah! has issued a correction as of 05:28 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Jun 6, 2021 05:25
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Rah! posted:yeah that's one of the reasons why he's full of poo poo If you didn't listen to that NWS Radar Station/Police phone call it's worth a go, I dunno what page it's on but it's pretty wild.
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Jun 6, 2021 05:26
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Zisky posted:If you didn't listen to that NWS Radar Station/Police phone call it's worth a go, I dunno what page it's on but it's pretty wild. you probably mean this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYawV4ui53A
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Jun 6, 2021 05:28
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Rah! posted:
Yeah this is the video I couldn't find after two seconds of looking, I felt like I was qualified to pilot a fighter jet after I watched a couple of them Bullfrog posted:you probably mean this one What in the world Ok that might be enough for tonight vv here to say it's actually terrifying, so yes I guess vv Inspector Hound has issued a correction as of 05:31 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Jun 6, 2021 05:28
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Bullfrog posted:you probably mean this one  I bet it's even better stoned.
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Jun 6, 2021 05:29
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thunderfoot is apparently debunking ufo vids so knowing that, im just going to assume that the craft absolutely 100% are aliens and the alien pilots have very progressive views on gender and sex
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Jun 6, 2021 05:29
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Bullfrog posted:thunderfoot is apparently debunking ufo vids so knowing that, im just going to assume that the craft absolutely 100% are aliens and the alien pilots have very progressive views on gender and sex lol yeah that dude sucks too
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Jun 6, 2021 05:31
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seeet I just got a new sampler now I can make 911 call ufo beats with these YouTube’s
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Jun 6, 2021 05:36
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Yeah, the vehement attempts to just shut any and all discussion down come off to me like fear.
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Jun 6, 2021 05:37
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Rah! posted:lol yeah that dude sucks too Why? I like his Musk debunk stuff, though I admit the gaspy pause after every statement for pompous effect is grating.
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Jun 6, 2021 05:37
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Zisky posted:If you didn't listen to that NWS Radar Station/Police phone call it's worth a go, I dunno what page it's on but it's pretty wild. Bullfrog posted:you probably mean this one  wow must be birds and mass hysteria
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Jun 6, 2021 05:41
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UnknownTarget posted:Why? I like his Musk debunk stuff, though I admit the gaspy pause after every statement for pompous effect is grating. ive only seen his UFO debunker videos, if he hates elon thats cool lol
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Jun 6, 2021 05:42
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UnknownTarget posted:Why? I like his Musk debunk stuff, though I admit the gaspy pause after every statement for pompous effect is grating. https://youtu.be/4dn6ZVpJLxs
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Jun 6, 2021 05:44
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one of the reasons the possibility of aliens is exciting, is that they could maybe help us out. maybe they'll just ignore us, or melt our brains and eat our eyes instead, but really...what could aliens do thats any worse than what we already to to ourselves and our own planet? We are a bunch of dumb assholes
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Jun 6, 2021 06:03
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posadas was right
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Jun 6, 2021 06:03
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Rah! posted:but really...what could aliens do thats any worse than what we already to to ourselves and our own planet? We are a bunch of dumb assholes I mean... Hm. https://youtu.be/VjQ2t_yNHQs One of the amazing things about life, the universe and everything is that no matter how bad things get... they absolutely can always get unfathomably worse
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Jun 6, 2021 06:14
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Hodgepodge posted:there is no missing link between general relativity and newtonian physics... they are just incompatible and we have no framework for reconciling them. lol ok
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Jun 6, 2021 06:19
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Bilirubin posted:So, the angels of Daniel and Ezekiel then. The thing that really gets me is that we often don't give ancient people enough credit for understanding the world around them, and especially the sky. They might not have had our understanding of stars, galaxies, comets, etc. but people have been looking up into and documenting the sky for as long as there have been people, and they sure as poo poo knew if what they were seeing was normal or not. Look at the Basel and Nuremberg phenomena from back in the 16th century, for example. You don't have to think it was aliens, but you do have to acknowledge that whatever happened was deeply bizarre, and that religious interpretation and intent of the objects aside, that they likely did a decent job reporting what they saw because they might not have known what it was, but they sure knew it wasn't something anyone had ever seen. And it's the same poo poo with people today. Plenty of people report mundane things as UFOs, but we know that because it's pretty easy to ferret out when someone saw a satellite or a conventional aircraft, but the idea that someone can say something like "I saw a large, triangular craft with blinking lights that blocked out a significant portion of the sky hovering silently over my house for 20 minutes, after which it moved off over the horizon at high speed" and have debunkers go "they don't know what they saw, it must have been a flock of birds" is some peak lib "dumb hicks don't know the sky" poo poo.
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Jun 6, 2021 06:22
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The Protagonist posted:No I think you misunderstand. It overcomes the infinite energy necessary to accelerate mass to light speed, it does not in any way deal with the fact that a ship that ends up somewhere faster than light can create all sorts of causality breaking paradoxes I can't claim to have any real knowledge of this stuff. The available material for a layman might be inadequate, for example the Wikipedia article on the Alcubierre Drive claims that "[b]ecause objects within the bubble are not moving (locally) more quickly than light, the mathematical formulation of the Alcubierre metric is consistent with the conventional claims of the laws of relativity (namely, that an object with mass cannot attain or exceed the speed of light) and conventional relativistic effects such as time dilation would not apply as they would with conventional motion at near-light speeds." The discussion of possible causality violations seems rather inadequate; there is one discussion of one physicist's claim that the drive would require the exotic matter to be tachyonic and then more explicitly some discussion of the possibility that Alcubierre's math allows for closed timelike curves (but doesn't require them). e: I've also seen the effects of the warp bubble outright compared to that of a wormhole in terms of casuality; however this could have been poo poo science journalism e2: physics nerds say you are incorrect; basically once you're curving spacetime the math that would imply a causality violation does not apply: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/430661/how-can-the-alcubierre-drive-itself-move-faster-than-light quote:But this doesn't really answer the question of why the drive is able to "move" faster than light. The "faster than light motion" can be defined rigorously in a very simple sense - since the spacetime as described in the papers is exactly flat except for a certain region, it is possible to "globally" compare it against an identical copy (with all relevant "landmarks" included in both) with the distorted region flattened out, and you can show that there exists a path within the warp-drive space that, if followed, will take you from one locale of the flat spacetime to another in both a proper and a coordinate time smaller than that required for light to travel the distance in the corresponding flat spacetime. (this is the most intuitive tldr i could find) Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 06:36 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Jun 6, 2021 06:23
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Bullfrog posted:thunderfoot is apparently debunking ufo vids so knowing that, im just going to assume that the craft absolutely 100% are aliens and the alien pilots have very progressive views on gender and sex *The space pod opens to reveal Anita Sarkeesian* He’s just a grumpy bitch who has found an audience by being contrarian 100% of the time. He made a dumb video right after phosphene was detected on Venus saying that it wasn’t phosphene, and he was clearly just gambling on the likelihood of future study refining the exact amount down to lower levels without providing any argument for why he was right. If that ends up happening, which would be the most likely scenario, he gets to claim credit without having done any work. If he’s wrong, nobody will remember his video and he’s unharmed by it.
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Jun 6, 2021 06:34
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of course, this could in some sense all be an artifact of our inability to reconcile GR and quantum physics; ie, this is something of an edge case and so it could represent a consequence of a fundamental error in relativity otoh, we might well be able to, and i hope people will pardon the expression, make the speed limit of nature our bitch by bending the fabric of spacetime itself
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Jun 6, 2021 06:47
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Never seen Aliens, tonight seems like as good a night as any.
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Jun 6, 2021 06:47
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Zisky posted:Never seen Aliens, tonight seems like as good a night as any. enjoy
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Jun 6, 2021 06:49
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Zisky posted:Never seen Aliens, tonight seems like as good a night as any. okay here's my breakdown: you gotta watcha Alien and Aliens the sequels are... divisive, and i haven't seen them. one was written by josh whedon but it had a really good director? there is an assemby cut of alien3 that is well regarded. avp is it's own thing, be prepared to like them as slock or to enjoy reading why smg liked them. be warned that most versions of avp 2 have horrible contrast settings (iirc) that you may need to fix to actually see the film. prometheus and covenant are divisive; ignore this and enjoy them
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Jun 6, 2021 06:55
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I'm watching Signs, felt like doing a scary alien movie. never seen it
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Jun 6, 2021 06:58
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thinking about it, that one dude who claimed all intelligent life basically concluded that there is a creator intelligence would kind of make sense in a universe where intelligence was gifted the ability to defy the limits of nature like that of course in a rational sense it makes no difference, i'm just saying being intelligent life gets a lot more awesome if that is possible and that makes the universe seem a lot kinder
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Jun 6, 2021 07:03
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Jun 6, 2021 07:05
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that reddit guy sure made a lucky guess
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Jun 6, 2021 07:13
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Azathoth posted:The thing that really gets me is that we often don't give ancient people enough credit for understanding the world around them, and especially the sky. They might not have had our understanding of stars, galaxies, comets, etc. but people have been looking up into and documenting the sky for as long as there have been people, and they sure as poo poo knew if what they were seeing was normal or not. yeah this is the thing i've never understood, even when i was younger, why a certain group of people always claim, without fail, that some average person with nothing to gain would decide to cut from whole cloth a complete witness description of a UFO sighting in order to gain some sort of nonexistent "notoriety" like how is your default position that anyone you meet is a lying grifter? how do you manage to interact with the world? e: counterpoint, trolp pancake rabbit has issued a correction as of 07:36 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Jun 6, 2021 07:26
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coelomate posted:Just a reminder that there are some completely boring plausible explanations for this stuff, too. lol look I live in San Diego and its well known they the Union Tribune is utter loving trash, don't cite them for anything resembling authority lol
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Jun 6, 2021 07:26
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Wheeee posted:that reddit guy sure made a lucky guess i summarized his story to my mom and she thinks he's a plant  i am very glad that my mother accepts my attempts to keep her extremely c-spam tendencies from getting too out of control on health related stuff. on poo poo like ufos she's 100% fine with them projecting from astral space, ultimately being messengers from our own collective psyche. so basically i just let the topic be fun.
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Jun 6, 2021 07:26
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pancake rabbit posted:yeah this is the thing the flipside here is that UFO mythology was quite widespread in mid 20th century America, such that the "average person" was absolutely aware of flying saucers and little green men because yeah they got the newspaper and read books too which means something like the Kelly-Hopkinsville encounter takes on a very interesting light, it'd be stupid to suggest that these people were just making poo poo up, they clearly saw and experienced something very scary and strange and interpreted that as best they could knowing what they did. seven years after Roswell is way long enough for people in Kentucky to know what it is they saw.
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Jun 6, 2021 07:38
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i know it's not aliens, but also i am hype for aliens
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Jun 6, 2021 07:43
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Wheeee posted:i know it's not aliens, but also i am hype for aliens  this dude belongs here the pyramids were still egyptians (etc) and ancient people were capable of doing amazing things without alien intervention though
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Jun 6, 2021 07:55
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i cant believe aliens never responded to our unsolicited dick pics + blaring the radio as loud as we can
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Jun 6, 2021 08:01
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blatman posted:i cant believe aliens never responded to our unsolicited dick pics + blaring the radio as loud as we can whos to be sure they havent. i mean has anyone really considered the origins of the Fleshlight?
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