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Marvel Xcom sounds really dumb, and I hope it's not actually happening.
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binge crotching posted:Marvel Xcom sounds really dumb, and I hope it's not actually happening. You know almost literally nothing about it.
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Jun 7, 2021 11:44
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There’s enough
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Jun 7, 2021 16:49
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no one will ever produce anything worth a poo poo with the mouse riding herd on them.
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Jun 7, 2021 17:09
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uber_stoat posted:no one will ever produce anything worth a poo poo with the mouse riding herd on them. This is the main concern, yeah. I personally think superheroes are boring, but I've enjoyed some media in that genre. Disney, on the other hand, has been getting pretty notorious for churning out sanitized, mass-market cash-ins lately 
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Jun 7, 2021 17:12
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It's not even the quality of products, it's the approach to IP, ownership and consumer power that has always been immanently corrosive across their entire portfolio. You don't want anybody you like to work under them, you don't want them close to touching anything with a fan community that contributes to the product
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Jun 7, 2021 17:38
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The Spiderman games were pretty good. Star Wars Squadrons was fun. I frankly don't get how Disney *could* have a malign influence over a Marvel XCOM-like. It's a strategy game, there's probably going to be barely a story. So what's supposed to happen, is the Mouse going to ban Black Widow from using overwatch? Okay, there would probably be quite limited mod support, but that's like the only thing I can think of. They made a Mario XCOM and it was good. There's no level of imposed 'sanitisation' and 'mass market appeal' that would make a XCOM type game bad. It's just a matter of how well the devs do their job. If it's the Life is Strange devs making a Marvel game I might be worried, but XCOM isn't that. Fangz fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jun 7, 2021 |
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Jun 7, 2021 17:40
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The few times I played XCOM multi I had a squad of thin men and one XCOM sniper They were "Bob from accounting", "A thin mint", "An XCOM rookie", "A sectoid", "Actually a thin man", and "A thin man" 
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Jun 7, 2021 17:49
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A Disney XCOM will allow precisely 0 modding, so gently caress that poo poo
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Jun 7, 2021 17:50
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Neither did the Mario XCOM.
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Jun 7, 2021 17:55
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Fangz posted:Neither did the Mario XCOM. I don't think anyone is surprised that a nintendo exclusive with their flagship character running exclusively on their console hardware didn't allow modding. An XCOM-ish game from Firaxis not having any modding is obviously a very different thing.
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Jun 7, 2021 18:04
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BobTheJanitor posted:I don't think anyone is surprised that a nintendo exclusive with their flagship character running exclusively on their console hardware didn't allow modding. I'm not saying it's surprising or something, I'm saying it doesn't really matter as to whether this game is good or not. It'll come down to whether the devs find fun ways to remix the XCOM formula to fix the change of setting (like, say, the jumping mechanic they added to Mario). I suspect that what they'd probably do is make an XCOM that is more centred on ability use and melee combat, since that's what superheroes tend to be more into. I've used my share of QoL mods before, but I thought Chimera squad worked well unmodded, so if people think that Firaxis is incapable of making a game that's good without getting the fan community to fix it for them, then that's quite a different problem. Fangz fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jun 7, 2021 |
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Jun 7, 2021 18:06
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Okay but then I can't use a nude Hulk mod
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Jun 7, 2021 18:27
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if i can't make all my guys Goku i will not be purchasing your product sir.
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Jun 7, 2021 18:34
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I have a pronounced distaste for anything Avengers/Comic-EU related and could not give a flying gently caress about Hulk and Cyclops teaming up in beautifully curated scenarios. I don't care about mods, I just wanted more semi-expendable soldiers missing shots in hilarious ways. You know, Xcom.
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Jun 7, 2021 18:47
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Fangz posted:I frankly don't get how Disney *could* have a malign influence over a Marvel XCOM-like. please go review the recent history with the game "Marvel's Avengers"
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Jun 7, 2021 21:04
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if you think Disney is going to take a hands off approach with any property they own you got another thing coming buddy.
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Jun 7, 2021 21:09
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Worst case scenario is the game is a bogged down developmental nightmare with problems from all quarters, so I'm just hoping it's done as quickly and efficiently as possible with no needless flourishes and then back to the good modular stuff. And no sad sequel hooks, like laser Cthulhu or voices that could have been anyone talking about anything.
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Jun 7, 2021 21:12
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Fangz posted:Star Wars Squadrons was fun. Jedi: Fallen Order was pretty good too. Just because the last few Marvel games (except the Spiderman games and the LEGO ones) were kinda underwhelming doesn't necessarily mean anything other than some game studios made some mediocre games.
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Jun 7, 2021 22:10
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I guess my question is what the gently caress is Avengers X-Com? Is it like Chimera squad where you have preset characters who all have unique builds? You'd have to revamp almost every system because 80% of the iconic Avengers are melee dudes and that absolutely doesn't play well with the kind of cover gameplay XCOM offers.
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Jun 7, 2021 22:15
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Hulk gets a laser LMG
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Jun 7, 2021 22:31
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Honestly if they do some stupid bullshit handwave "oh no the Kree have nullified our powers now everyone use these laser guns instead' and you just put normal XCOM gameplay in I'd be here for it.
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Jun 7, 2021 22:39
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I just want more superhero character creators and the idea that their making a cape XCOM without one leaves me cold. Like I would tolerate all the bad Robert Downy Jr impersonators in world if I could bench them in favor of some dumb gimmick OC's.
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Jun 7, 2021 23:04
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Zore posted:Honestly if they do some stupid bullshit handwave "oh no the Kree have nullified our powers now everyone use these laser guns instead' and you just put normal XCOM gameplay in I'd be here for it. Imagine I posted WWII vintage DC comics with a big old null zone all around Europe/important islands in the Pacific.
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Jun 7, 2021 23:10
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Crackpot prediction: it's a vantablack comedy in which your entire roster is made up of imperfect clones of Agent Coulson
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Jun 8, 2021 00:34
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Retroactively surprised there isn't a mod to make Xcom 2: War of the Chosen into Agents of Hydra: War of the Avengers. "Street level" heroes for the chosen. Assassin=Spiderman; Hunter=Hawkeye; Warlock=Captain America. The first time the mission timer runs out one of these folks show up. Second timer brings in the "Cosmic level" folks. Berserker Queen=Hulk; Alpha Archon=Iron Man; Viper King=Captain Marvel? Third timer is a flat loss. Minions share a level with their sponsoring supervillain. Deploying the actual villain gets you about 5X the experience, but the risk of permadeath of the entire group.
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Jun 8, 2021 05:47
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My biggest problem with marvel XCOM is that the whole XCOM experience of repeatedly eating poo poo until you figure out the systems and keeping it together when things go wrong is antithetical to the superhero concept. Superheroes are by definition very powerful so you can't very well feel oppressed by your enemies and the environment. I guess chimera squad was halfway there but even in CS a bunch of your regular enemies had more hit points than you and almost everyone could hurt you.
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Jun 8, 2021 06:00
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Presumably the enemies will be super villains, who are usually 'stronger' than the superheroes until the final act, but they could also do XCOM : Civil War... *game contains a single map : a featureless grey tarmac*
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Jun 8, 2021 06:20
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i demand this thread pull up from doomsaying until we see a trailer. my words are backed by chess games
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Jun 8, 2021 06:42
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it's spelled dudesaying
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Jun 8, 2021 07:49
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Bogart posted:i demand this thread pull up from doomsaying until we see a trailer. my words are backed by chess games If I knew anything about photoshop or image hosting you would already be seeing the XCOM Apocalypse box art with the logo switched out for the SHIELD logo. Much more fun than thinking about lawyers.
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Jun 8, 2021 07:58
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habituallyred posted:If I knew anything about photoshop or image hosting you would already be seeing the XCOM Apocalypse box art with the logo switched out for the SHIELD logo. Much more fun than thinking about lawyers. “S.H.I.E.L.D. of the Apocalypse”sounds like a  game to me! 
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Jun 8, 2021 09:33
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Today I learned there was a super Mario xcom
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Jun 8, 2021 12:35
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Mans posted:Today I learned there was a super Mario xcom A crossover with Rabbids, at that.
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Jun 8, 2021 12:42
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Mans posted:Today I learned there was a super Mario xcom It was good too! The creative director responsible for it famously cried as he was overwhelmed with emotion at getting to do it and getting congratulated by Shigeru Miyamoto!
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Jun 8, 2021 12:46
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Basic Chunnel posted:Hulk gets a laser LMG Hulk is easy, just reskin Axiom. Best Friends posted:My biggest problem with marvel XCOM is that the whole XCOM experience of repeatedly eating poo poo until you figure out the systems and keeping it together when things go wrong is antithetical to the superhero concept. Superheroes are by definition very powerful so you can't very well feel oppressed by your enemies and the environment. Also will Disney release a Marvel game that relies on you losing characters a bunch and taking lots of damage even at high levels of play? BisbyWorl posted:A crossover with Rabbids, at that. I had never experienced the Rabbids before that and dammit, I kinda liked them in Kingdom Battle.
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Jun 8, 2021 14:56
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X-Ray Pecs posted:
Mario x Rabbids is probably the best way to experience them because your party members are kinda charming and the enemies can be funny. They were way more obnoxious in Rayman and were sort of the Minions before Minions got huge. They even did the thing where they eclipsed thier source and got a bunch of their own games and poo poo.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:35
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habituallyred posted:Retroactively surprised there isn't a mod to make Xcom 2: War of the Chosen into Agents of Hydra: War of the Avengers. "Street level" heroes for the chosen. Assassin=Spiderman; Hunter=Hawkeye; Warlock=Captain America. The first time the mission timer runs out one of these folks show up. Second timer brings in the "Cosmic level" folks. Berserker Queen=Hulk; Alpha Archon=Iron Man; Viper King=Captain Marvel? Third timer is a flat loss. your suggesting they make a good version of evil genius
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Jun 9, 2021 00:23
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Has there been literally any news about Xcom 3? Or is it all marvel stuff now?
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clearly jake solomon has abandoned us in our time of need
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