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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Green candidate for Batley and Spen has been dropped.

Going to just be a straight head to head between Labour and Tories at this rate. Other than the usual assortment of by-election weirdos.

Yes, the Lib Dems

e: page 21, so have 2 posts instead of 1

sebzilla fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jun 7, 2021

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.



It's cool but why would you not post this?

https://twitter.com/ALRlGHTNOW/status/1401530958189412355?s=19

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

The Question IRL posted:

While it won't harm her career, there is a certain satisfaction to be gained from watching people be aquited because she couldn't keep her mouth shut.

Like the time that marine got a reduced sentence for deserting because Trump said he should have been shot and the judge said he had to push back against that.

Yeah, it’s a small silver lining to a very nasty cloud.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

The Question IRL posted:

While it won't harm her career, there is a certain satisfaction to be gained from watching people be aquited because she couldn't keep her mouth shut.

Like the time that marine got a reduced sentence for deserting because Trump said he should have been shot and the judge said he had to push back against that.

It's paywalled and as it's the Indy it's not even worth the effort of working round that - what do they claim the problem is? The Home Secretary is responsible for policing - as long as they don't have her on record giving ordering them to do illegal things then there's not any actual legal problem, surely?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


sebzilla posted:

Green candidate for Batley and Spen has been dropped.

Going to just be a straight head to head between Labour and Tories at this rate. Other than the usual assortment of by-election weirdos.

Yes, the Lib Dems

e: page 21, so have 2 posts instead of 1

Don’t forget Galloway!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I've been trying.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
vote all for unity

ah nivur snogged saddam hussein

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Completely apropos of nothing as I post after midnight, I remember fellow posters talking about a fibre supplement they found to be brilliant. What was it again?

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

crispix posted:

vote all for unity

ah nivur snogged saddam hussein

Compromise demands we at least hold hands with Saddam

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

crispix posted:

ah nivur snogged saddam hussein
Of any of the young Ba'athists I could understand it if he did, but I don't reckon he was ever in with much of a chance. Depends on what they were like really.


e: ^^ or pretend to be a cat like

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

I remember fellow posters talking about a fibre supplement they found to be brilliant. What was it again?
Psyllium husks and coir (ground coconut husk fibre) are both good sources, and some of the more popular vegan burgers (Gro maybe, I think (which to their detriment suffer from being a bit chewy)) are full of various plant fibre if you check the labels.

Also bananas, like just getting and eating bananas. Excessive fibre can also be a problem.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear


Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

Psyllium husks and coir (ground coconut husk fibre) are both good sources, and some of the more popular vegan burgers (Gro maybe, I think (which to their detriment suffer from being a bit chewy)) are full of various plant fibre if you check the labels.

Also bananas, like just getting and eating bananas. Excessive fibre can also be a problem.

Cheers!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you get tired of eating your coir you can also use it to grow orchids.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah it is Gro that's full of besan (chickpea flour). Good roughage but gives a bit of a paste texture to the burgers.

Funnily enough it doesn't seem to affect their sausage rolls. Maybe they managed to extract the Piers Morgan outrage energy to burn it off.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I like bran flakes and milk with a banana and golden syrup on. Makes a quite nice dessert and/or breakfast.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Psyllium husks are the absolute poo poo. (literally lol)

I used to think old people were mad to be obsessed with fiber but goddamn. I got old, and it makes quite the difference.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Seems like a lot of effort to eat magic mushrooms to poo poo regular.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It'd be interesting if cultivated banana trees were able to grow properly locally, I was always told that way back when you could get them much bigger if you don't have to pull them early to ship them around everywhere (back to Nigel Farage banana havers in Kent), but the modern bananas are all Cavendish strains, neither the extremely sweet Gros Michel colonial cultivars nor the extremely starchy Indonesian plantains.

Then again if you could get good bananas the size of your forearm from a random tree growing in a ditch in the Midlands then that Lib Dem peer that wanted everyone to forage for food in the countryside might have had a point, and I don't want to countenance that either.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
there's one or two varieties of banana that will crop outside under very good conditions/positions in the UK but the fruits will be small/mediocre at best

My wife's aunt grew some in a greenhouse and got reasonable results but the fuckers grow big and she had to get rid of it

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Tesseraction posted:

Completely apropos of nothing as I post after midnight, I remember fellow posters talking about a fibre supplement they found to be brilliant. What was it again?

I use vita fibre from myprotien. It's probably made up of the stuff others are taking about but it's basically a really fine powder that dissolves well in liquids with a sight sweet flavouring.

I pop a scoop in my coffee and a scoop in my porridge every morning to get my daily fibre requirement and I don't even notice it.

It's the equivalent of eating 2 bowls (or 80g) of allbran. Which, well, try eating that and tell me how much you enjoy it.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
I've heard of shitposting but this is ridiculous.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

It'd be interesting if cultivated banana trees were able to grow properly locally, I was always told that way back when you could get them much bigger if you don't have to pull them early to ship them around everywhere (back to Nigel Farage banana havers in Kent), but the modern bananas are all Cavendish strains, neither the extremely sweet Gros Michel colonial cultivars nor the extremely starchy Indonesian plantains.

Then again if you could get good bananas the size of your forearm from a random tree growing in a ditch in the Midlands then that Lib Dem peer that wanted everyone to forage for food in the countryside might have had a point, and I don't want to countenance that either.

Also of course edible bananas are never going to grow wild because they've been bred to be completely seedless - theoretically every banana in the world is a clone of one that was in Kew Gardens during the war. This is also why we don't have Gros Michel any more - the extremely low level of genetic diversity means that when a disease came along that killed them, they just all died.

(Apparently that generic banana artificial flavour that tastes basically nothing like bananas *does* taste a lot like Gros Michel - maybe sprinkle some of it on your normal banana if you want that hit?)

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




goddamnedtwisto posted:

Also of course edible bananas are never going to grow wild because they've been bred to be completely seedless - theoretically every banana in the world is a clone of one that was in Kew Gardens during the war. This is also why we don't have Gros Michel any more - the extremely low level of genetic diversity means that when a disease came along that killed them, they just all died.

(Apparently that generic banana artificial flavour that tastes basically nothing like bananas *does* taste a lot like Gros Michel - maybe sprinkle some of it on your normal banana if you want that hit?)

Gros Michel bananas aren't extinct and you can still buy them. They're just not economic to farm in large quantities anymore.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
This is pretty hilarious. Our crack trade negotiators have signed up to another deal they did not read first.

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1402140834938732550

quote:

The prime minister last month announced that he hoped a domestic shipbuilder would create the £200m vessel, a successor to the Royal Yacht Britannia, to promote British trade and industry around the world.

But while Number 10 has announced its “intention” to build the as yet unnamed ship in the UK, this would breach an agreement that Britain signed up to only eight months ago

Ministers failed to exclude the construction of civilian ships from the list of contracts that must be opened to global competition when it signed the WTO “government procurement agreement” (GPA) covering 48 countries last October.

The government has set up a national flagship taskforce, hosted in the defence ministry, to oversee the creation of the trade yacht, which will be manned with Royal Navy personnel. However, its purpose is entirely for business rather than security.

Liz Truss, trade secretary, boasted in October that the GPA would allow British companies to keep bidding for public sector contracts around the world worth £1.3tr a year. Likewise, she said, overseas groups would be able to continue to bid for UK public sector contracts, “delivering better value for UK taxpayers”.

But that could frustrate the government’s attempts to use a “Buy British” approach to building the new yacht. Item 47 of annex 4 of the UK schedule of the GPA explicitly says the procurement of “ships, boats and floating structures, except warships” must be advertised internationally and awarded without discrimination.

Other countries, including the US, Canada, Japan and Australia, have, by contrast, ensured that their GPA agreements exclude civil shipbuilding.

Out of the largest 50 motor-powered superyachts currently at sea, only one (el Mahrousa) was built in the UK — in 1865.

However, Cammell Laird, which has a shipyard in Merseyside, north-west England, says it is ready and willing to manufacture the new trade yacht.

Aline Doussin, head of the international trade team at law firm Hogan Lovells, said it would be hard for the UK to avoid allowing international competition to build the ship unless it was an actual military vessel.

“It is likely that the GPA will be engaged, which means that open, fair and transparent conditions of competition will have to be met, and GPA country suppliers would have to be treated in the same manner as domestic ones,” she said.

Emily Thornberry, shadow trade secretary, said the government had failed to take “the most basic and simple steps” to guarantee the boat could be built in Britain.

“It is yet more copper-bottomed, ocean-going incompetence from Boris Johnson and Liz Truss, and they need to get themselves on solid legal ground before spending any more public funds on this project,” she said.

A government spokesperson said the ship would definitely be built in UK shipyards. She said the programme would be “compliant with our obligations under the WTO GPA” but did not say how that could be the case given Item 47 of annex 4.

One Whitehall figure said the government was planning to claim that the new trade yacht is indispensable for national security in an attempt to bypass those rules.

But the government announcement of the launch said it would be used “to host high level trade negotiations and trade shows and will sail all over the world promoting British interests”.

As a result the UK faces potential legal challenges from overseas governments or shipbuilders against the government’s protectionist stance.

Dmitry Grozoubinski, a trade expert who is visiting professor at the University of Strathclyde, said the government might try to structure the deal to avoid the letter of the GPA rules.

“Ringfencing this procurement is demonstratively contrary to their spirit. The arguments cited for keeping the procurement local — jobs, upskilling, patriotism — apply equally to any purchase made by the government and are precisely what the GPA was negotiated to set aside,” he said.

“The government can’t simultaneously present itself as a champion of the rules-based trading system and retain the freedom to ignore those rules whenever politically expedient,” he added.

keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Jun 8, 2021

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


keep punching joe posted:

This is pretty hilarious. Our crack trade negotiators have signed up to another deal they did not read first.

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1402140834938732550

Install one of the never used water cannon on it, making it a warship. Boris twenty moves ahead once again

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

keep punching joe posted:

This is pretty hilarious. Our crack trade negotiators have signed up to another deal they did not read first.

https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1402140834938732550

Or that they had no intention of keeping. (It can be both, of course.)

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Necrothatcher posted:

Gros Michel bananas aren't extinct and you can still buy them. They're just not economic to farm in large quantities anymore.

I've looked in asian stores and the like but they only have the cooking bananas. Really wanna try a gros michel some day

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Apparently the big success of the Cavendish is how well it travels/stores more than anything else, and with technologies like Apeel becoming a thing bringing more exotic cultivars to market might be doable.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Gove Michael bananas sound terrible.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
It seems I'm getting my second jab way early, I had my first four weeks ago today and I just got the text to book. Four weeks-ish is the ideal spacing right? I was expecting to wait eleven. Seems like uptake is good as all the spots at the town hall got snapped up, last one vanished when I tried for it.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
Mine will be about 6 weeks after my first. Given the original trials were done on a 4 week gap, this is better than expected. Also I'd already booked Monday off work and the jab is this Sunday so looks like no sickday for me!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I gather the AZ one actually works best at about 11 weeks but was originally intended for a four week spacing, while pfizer you can have them quite close together and it makes no difference.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
They might be speeding things up wherever they can?

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

OwlFancier posted:

I gather the AZ one actually works best at about 11 weeks but was originally intended for a four week spacing, while pfizer you can have them quite close together and it makes no difference.

Mine's Pfizer.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/AnnMemmott/status/1401447570904395776

Not going to school causes autism.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
The whole worldview behind that is the exact same one that kidnapped a few million children for Sunday schools around the Empire and then left piles of little corpses in their back yards.

If there is a fixed set of "crucial developmental stages for which their responses to emotional initiation are primed" then it's beyond current scientific knowledge, let alone that of Janet Daley writing for The Telegraph.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you think there is something about society that causes unfathomable collapse of children's brains if they don't go to school then perhaps that is an indictment of that society rather than an argument for school.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

If you think there is something about society that causes unfathomable collapse of children's brains
British journalism seems close.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

If you think there is something about society that causes unfathomable collapse of children's brains if they don't go to school then perhaps that is an indictment of that society rather than an argument for school.

It sort of is. Kids don't socialise anywhere near as much as they used to, for a multitude of reasons - communities are more atomised of course, lack of public space and activities, wariness (justified or not) of the outside world generally - that all pretty much come back to the fact we've spent four decades reshaping society into something that serves only Number. For many kids school is about the only place where they get proper socialisation (and physical activity). For a better part of a year they've been reduced to purely online interaction and basically no exercise - we've bred The Goon Generation.

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