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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
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Well, hopefully no one goes to the drat things and they bomb out. gently caress supporting that poo poo.

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Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


All those trees and all that land are just waiting to be ripped up and sold! Think of all the money you are wasting by leaving nature untouched! We will leave nothing in our wake!

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Vintersorg posted:

Well, hopefully no one goes to the drat things and they bomb out. gently caress supporting that poo poo.

The most likely route this goes is the owner will sit on it and look for resources while eating the loss then sell it off to a logging/mining/oil company. Or build a bunch of "cottages" in a private little gated community for wealthy suburban idiots.

Both have happened in Ontario. :(

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Vintersorg posted:

Well, hopefully no one goes to the drat things and they bomb out. gently caress supporting that poo poo.

If it is unprofitable as a camp ground they will just turn it into an exclusive resort or some poo poo. They ain't never giving that back to the people.

e:fb

Furnaceface posted:

The most likely route this goes is the owner will sit on it and look for resources while eating the loss then sell it off to a logging/mining/oil company. Or build a bunch of "cottages" in a private little gated community for wealthy suburban idiots.

Both have happened in Ontario. :(

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



That’s depressing.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Sounds like a great place to start a land claim.

Fidelitious
Apr 17, 2018

MY BIRTH CRY WILL BE THE SOUND OF EVERY WALLET ON THIS PLANET OPENING IN UNISON.

Fried Watermelon posted:

All those trees and all that land are just waiting to be ripped up and sold! Think of all the money you are wasting by leaving nature untouched! We will leave nothing in our wake!

I have to say, this is a real quick follow up from Manitoba to Jesse Kline's "parks are a waste of space" article.
They really took it to heart.

Next up is privatizing sidewalks. It's free money, just sitting there.

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.

Fidelitious posted:

I have to say, this is a real quick follow up from Manitoba to Jesse Kline's "parks are a waste of space" article.
They really took it to heart.

Next up is privatizing sidewalks. It's free money, just sitting there.

I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Eat Fresh and Freeze, scumbag!

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Vintersorg posted:

That’s depressing.

Manitoba PC slogan found.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/pallister-government-accused-of-privatizing-provincial-park-574582812.html

I don't think this is paywalled, but here's the text. The park is now on a 21 year lease.

quote:

Premier Brian Pallister's government may have told Manitobans it would never sell provincial parks — but it didn't say they wouldn't be leased.

Until Monday, Manitobans who went to St. Ambroise Beach Provincial Park were told their provincial park passes were invalid after a 21-year lease was awarded to Manitoba businessman Sterling Ducharme in January to operate the 46-hectare of Crown land.

News of the lease has sparked warnings from environmental groups and opposition leaders, who say this is the first step to the privatization of Manitoba parks.

Ducharme, who owns a general store in the nearby village of St. Ambroise, would not comment Monday.

Late Monday afternoon, Conservation and Climate Minister Sarah Guillemard said in a statement there had been "recent misinformation" and "confusion" about park passes not being accepted at St. Ambroise.

"Manitobans will have full access to this public space with their provincial park passes as has always been the intention," said Guillemard.

But Guillemard defended the province's decision to lease the park.

"The province's partnership with this service provider is enabling St. Ambroise Beach Provincial Park to be revitalized and to recover from the previous damage... the previous NDP government did nothing to help St. Ambroise Beach Provincial Park since the 2011 flood and instead sat idly until our government took action to enhance the visitor experience at the park by engaging in the partnership with the service provider.

"Our provincial parks are not for sale, but they are ready for improvements... we will continue to build partnerships to help enhance visitors' experiences."

On the weekend, Amanda Walder was one of many who were shocked to learn her provincial pass wasn’t valid at the park, located about 70 kilometres northwest of Winnipeg on the southeast shore of Lake Manitoba.

When she arrived with her $44 park pass, Walder said a man at a hastily erected checkpoint, with a hand-written sign, demanded she pay a $10 daily user fee to go to the beach.

She told him she had no cash, so he waved her through, but not before telling her that a local man was running the park, having invested $100,000 in the site because the government didn’t want to pay anyone to maintain the washrooms at the beach, Walder said.

She said other beach-goers told her husband they had paid the $10 fee to access the beach.

Walder, who regularly uses provincial parks, said she’s angry the government has turned the park over to a businessman.

"What I am most upset about is that the government has been saying they aren’t privatizing parks, but what else can you call this?" she said.

Walder said she and her family will now boycott St. Ambroise as a sign of protest against privatization — and she’s encouraging others do the same.

Back in April, during his budget speech, Finance Minister Scott Fielding announced a new $20 million endowment fund for provincial parks saying it was "so Manitobans can enjoy them for generations to come, because Manitoba's parks are not for sale."

While Pallister's government has not technically sold the park, he has sold access to it, said Eric Reder, representing the Manitoba chapter of the Wilderness Committee.

"Manitobans don't care what type of weasel words the premier uses. Manitobans don't want to privatize provincial parks... this really, really stinks."

Ron Thiessen, executive director of the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society, said the group is "highly concerned, as provincial parks should be available and open to all Manitobans."

Thiessen said the camping rate at St. Ambroise is now $50 per night versus the rate of $11-$23 in other provincial parks.

Ducharme has set up an RV campground on the north side of the lakeside park and renamed it Surfside Beach Campground.

The Surfside website shows seasonal rates are between $1,500-$2,500 this year, with prices expected to jump as high as $3,750 next year. Thiessen said that’s costly compared to the rate of $1,061 in provincial parks.

"We're very concerned with the precedent this sets — are we going to see more and more of them privatized?" Thiessen asked.

The park was heavily damaged during the 2011 flood. The campground never reopened, but the day-use areas did in 2013.

Last July, the province quietly put out a request for proposal for the development and operation of a seasonal campground in the provincial park, as well as the operation and maintenance of the public beach area.

Under the terms of the lease, which began Jan. 1, no changes or improvements are allowed at the site, other than general repair, unless it is approved by Manitoba Parks.

In a statement, NDP leader Wab Kinew said: "The PCs claimed our parks were not for sale, but it turns out they have effectively privatized the land and raised prices for families.

"They aren't for the premier to sell off; they belong to all of us. He needs to be clear with Manitobans about his plans to privatize more of our parks."

NDP MLA Lisa Naylor called the move "underhanded and dishonest.

"We want to keep parks for the use of all Manitobans and that they are affordable."

Manitoba Liberal Leader Dougald Lamont said parks are a public service and shouldn't be a profit centre.

"Even if you've already paid for a park pass, the PCs are letting a private company set up a toll booth so you have to pay extra to get access to a beach we all own and share," said Lamont. "That's the essence of privatization: letting private companies make extra money charging you for something that's already yours."

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
It's really pathetic that their only excuse for doing it is to point fingers at the NDP.

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009
The NDP was instead wasting time directing funds to people to rebuild frivolous things like their homes after the 2011 flood. I know this because my parents were the recipients of such aid.

And even that got a bunch of flak because of how much it cost. The PCs are so full of poo poo.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
If they try to sell off Quetico I will loving riot

Entropic fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jun 8, 2021

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

https://twitter.com/ryersontories/status/1401977267878772741?s=19

L m f a o

Just a sweet cherry on top to the discourse.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
What the gently caress does Egerton Ryerson have to do with D-Day? The man wasn't even alive for the first world war lmao

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

never let the facts get in the way of a neocon diatribe

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
So Manitobas big, carefully planned vaccine incentive is that you can travel within Canada and return to Manitoba without quarantine and go see Grandma in a PCH if both people are vaccinated. :flaccid:

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

DariusLikewise posted:

What the gently caress does Egerton Ryerson have to do with D-Day? The man wasn't even alive for the first world war lmao

D Day like Vimy is one of the days that Canadian Are Troops fascists use as an excuse to say they're manly men unlike pussy commie libtard Marxist bitches. No, there's no reason to bring it up except as an example of what they consider hard-core Canadian masculinity.

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Drunk Canuck posted:

https://twitter.com/ryersontories/status/1401977267878772741?s=19

L m f a o

Just a sweet cherry on top to the discourse.

https://twitter.com/nickandhislens/status/1402255302708236288

COVID IS OVER
NATURE IS HEALING

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


Listen, I don't like Sir John A., but I get how someone who has never read too much into history could have a soft spot for him and desire to keep his statues. There's an ignorance there that I can get my head around. But who the gently caress cares about Edgerton Ryerson?


Statue politics has to be the dumbest thing, but only on the side defending them. Because every time they have to do this whole enormous song and dance to pretend like they super care about this random white dude from centuries ago. I know it's all owning the libs, but it's just so transparent.


E: Also lol stolen valour. "We're not saying this is like the Normandy landings, we're saying we were braver than them, cause we went on our own!"

Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jun 8, 2021

Muscle Tracer
Feb 23, 2007

Medals only weigh one down.


might wanna spoiler that

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Some people only learn about history when there are statues in public places apparently

Willatron
Sep 22, 2009
I feel pretty confident in assuming every one of these statues cons cry about getting torn down have gone unacknowledged and ignored by every single last one of them right up until the people those men historically oppressed or murdered decided they'd had enough of seeing them deified at schools, public spaces and government buildings every god drat day.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Sep 10, 2022

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Willatron posted:

I feel pretty confident in assuming every one of these statues cons cry about getting torn down have gone unacknowledged and ignored by every single last one of them right up until the people those men historically oppressed or murdered decided they'd had enough of seeing them deified at schools, public spaces and government buildings every god drat day.

Arabian Jesus
Feb 15, 2008

We've got the American Jesus
Bolstering national faith

We've got the American Jesus
Overwhelming millions every day

Drunk Canuck posted:

https://twitter.com/ryersontories/status/1401977267878772741?s=19

L m f a o

Just a sweet cherry on top to the discourse.

They spelt Canadian wrong

redbrouw
Nov 14, 2018

ACAB
Issue exists but is on the backburner until something happens to get it in the paper
Reporter is tasked to get a both sides story
Reporter interviews a group figurehead interested in solving issue (passionate and explanatory, goes below the fold)
Reporter sends probe questions to leaders of political parties in the area (probably cautious and blasé answers for the most part, although it's not tough to imagine a conservative getting his hackles up immediately with a really lovely hot take usually with wild conjecture about slippery slopes any change would bring)
Picks most interesting and opposed, dresses them up, makes it into a battle
Publishes piece about it
Pols watch carefully, if knee jerk reactions ensue, then start solidifying positions
Culture war where people who love arguing for entertainment just keep doing so forever

Somebody fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Sep 10, 2022

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance

this is beautiful

Nine of Eight
Apr 28, 2011


LICK IT OFF, AND PUT IT BACK IN
Dinosaur Gum

Another Bill posted:


COVID IS OVER
NATURE IS HEALING

No ring 6/10

Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Muscle Tracer posted:

might wanna spoiler that

If posting a goatse reply to the Ryerson Conservatives Manifesto on the Something Awful forums is wrong then I don't want to be right. :colbert:

boo boo bear
Oct 1, 2009

I'm COMPLETELY OBSESSED with SEXY EGGS

Beelzebufo posted:

E: Also lol stolen valour. "We're not saying this is like the Normandy landings, we're saying we were braver than them, cause we went on our own!"

the only person who could actually say that sincerely is a mackenzie pap vet and I'm pretty sure they're all dead by now. they never get mentioned though.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
What actually happened to the statue? If it were up to me I'd give to them, but one finger at a time

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
They can have it, but they have to carry it.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice
They should absolutely return the statue but only after it's been melted down and turned into gender-neutral toilets which, as per their request for its return, should be installed directly beside the campus conservatives offices.

Young Conservatives are always creepy, mostly because they are often literally wearing their father's suits, which is a bit too on the nose for me.

InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jun 8, 2021

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Keep in mind, these are rhe same goobers O'Toole send a video to on hiw ro win campus debates that also included O'Toole defending residential schools

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Its kind of amazing how the shift from Scheer to O'Toole was, at best, a lateral move for the CPC. Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes, forever.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
And here's the doublinf down
https://twitter.com/ryersontories/status/1402346860166189065?s=19


Drilcorncob.jpg

Tippecanoe
Jan 26, 2011

https://twitter.com/dril/status/972534838057230336?lang=en

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Another Bill
Sep 27, 2018

Born on the bayou
died in a cave
bbq and posting
is all I crave

Every reply on that thread is incredible, just 100% a dunk session.

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