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“Unforeseen to local law enforcement and due to the extremely dry conditions, dust kicked up in the area,” the task force said on Facebook. “As soon as helicopter staff saw what was happening, they immediately left the area to ensure no further issues would be caused. This was not an intentional act to cause discomfort or intended as a dispersal mechanism.” Uh huh. Sure, that's what happened. Enbridge spokesperson Michael Barnes said the company had nothing to do with the helicopter and decried trespassing. “How is that any different than what took place at our nation’s capital?” he asked, comparing the water protectors’ protest to the January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol building. https://theintercept.com/2021/06/08/line-3-pipeline-helicopter-dhs-protest/ https://twitter.com/efrostee/status/1401952522319843329?s=19
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Jun 9, 2021 13:01
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Eventually something is going to get thrown into a tail rotor and a helicopter pilot will have a very brief but intensely regretful rest of his life.
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Jun 9, 2021 13:40
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MrYenko posted:With the prevalence of cheap ADS-B out (it’s cheaper and easier to install than a Mode-C transponder for a lot of airplanes) options that are available now, the reasons for not having it are now essentially limited to “this airplane doesn’t have an electrical system” and “  Things like this don't help the second case, supposedly it was issued for someone landing at an airport next to the monument, and the superintendent later apologized. If you hear a plane, but don't see it on ADS-B tracking, it might be anonymized, some ADS-B out installs let you anonymize your signal. I'm in an area where one part of the federal government (the army corps of engineers) objects to the current airspace, and has sent written warnings to the local FSDO over pilots who fly in it frequently, despite it being regular E/G airspace with no special notation on the charts. ADS-B has me a little nervous about whether they will ramp up their complaints.
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Jun 9, 2021 13:44
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Midjack posted:Eventually something is going to get thrown into a tail rotor and a helicopter pilot will have a very brief but intensely regretful rest of his life. I was half expecting that to happen. That totally was within throwing distance, right?
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Jun 9, 2021 14:00
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marumaru posted:I was half expecting that to happen. That totally was within throwing distance, right? I don't know how easy it is to throw a weighted cable through a main rotor's downdraft and empirical test data will be expensive to acquire, but if dusting becomes a popular crowd control technique you can bet it's going to get tried. Hell if they get low enough a UAV might be able to dangle a chain into it from above.
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Jun 9, 2021 18:46
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I’m absolutely not advocating this in any way even though the actions of that pilot were reprehensible, but in a situation like that any random jackass with a centerfire rifle could ruin their day in short order. No rotor-breaking shenanigans required.
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Jun 9, 2021 18:56
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Why would a rimfire rifle work?
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Jun 9, 2021 19:32
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Murgos posted:Why would a rimfire rifle work? Bc the terrorist/freedom fighter would be aiming for the pilot, not the rotor E. A sudden hole in an engine or a hydraulic line is bad news too and still less challenging than tangling up a rotor with something ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jun 9, 2021 |
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Jun 9, 2021 19:40
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Homemade 12 ga chain shot? Bring back 19th Century naval loads.
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Jun 9, 2021 19:43
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Barrage balloons at the protest at decent intervals
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Jun 9, 2021 20:02
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wzm posted:
This is an absolutely fair point, and busybody individuals/organizations trying to penalize pilots for flying in places they’re legally allowed to is a thing that is absolutely going to happen more with ADSB than it did before. Still worth it, IMO. I’m a lot more afraid of a Cirrus with his head down than I am of a DoI cease and desist letter, even if it’s pursued in earnest. (Also, that AC “encourages” “voluntary practices,” and has a section for “cooperative actions.” Which is all to say, it’s completely toothless, and DoI didn’t have a leg to stand on if they tried to pursue certificate action.) Cirrus’ are a loving scourge
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Jun 9, 2021 20:02
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https://twitter.com/petemuntean/status/1402417609174302724 Hope something comes out of that.
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Jun 9, 2021 20:04
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Midjack posted:I don't know how easy it is to throw a weighted cable through a main rotor's downdraft and empirical test data will be expensive to acquire, but if dusting becomes a popular crowd control technique you can bet it's going to get tried. Hell if they get low enough a UAV might be able to dangle a chain into it from above. Sure, lets jump straight to murder. Why not go straight to shooting at the cops?
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Jun 9, 2021 20:17
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Sure, lets jump straight to murder. Why not go straight to shooting at the cops? Stand down, Officer. Idle chatter on a comedy web forum poses no danger to your ability to brutalize people.
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Jun 9, 2021 20:30
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Sure, lets jump straight to murder. Calm down dude, I most definitely am not interested in murder, I was just curious about the physics involved.
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Jun 9, 2021 20:57
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marumaru posted:Calm down dude, I most definitely am not interested in murder, I was just curious about the physics involved. Theorizing about how to kill people still isn't cool.
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Jun 9, 2021 21:02
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Theorizing about how to kill people still isn't cool. Dry your eyes and report the posts if they really upset you so much you whiny little turd. Very telling that you don’t seem to give a poo poo about the people the pilot was endangering.
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Jun 9, 2021 21:03
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What's scarier than snakes on a plane? Diarrhea on a plane.
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Jun 9, 2021 21:06
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Knock it off whatever caused the thread report. Ill be reading a bit later once I get back to a PC
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Jun 9, 2021 21:27
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*sighs and grabs pen* Ok, I can take that phone number
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Jun 9, 2021 21:30
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 he actually tattled to the mods about the posts he made up in his head. Amazing.(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 9, 2021 21:55
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hobbesmaster posted:*sighs and grabs pen* Ok, I can take that phone number I loving hate doing that to pilots. Unless they really earned it.
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Jun 9, 2021 22:24
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https://twitter.com/js_ascher/status/1402448622697041923?s=21
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Jun 9, 2021 22:34
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It’d be funny if it boosted efficiency somehow.
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Jun 9, 2021 23:37
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priznat posted:It’d be funny if it boosted efficiency somehow. Afterburning bugs would be incredible.
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Jun 10, 2021 00:10
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Midjack posted:Afterburning bugs would be incredible. High caloric density?! Oh lord the smell though.
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Jun 10, 2021 00:13
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I've had that happen with June bugs getting sucked into the APU intake, and it's not a pleasant smell. Kind of like slightly sweet molding gym socks.
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Jun 10, 2021 00:41
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azflyboy posted:I've had that happen with June bugs getting sucked into the APU intake, and it's not a pleasant smell. Kind of like slightly sweet molding gym socks. Stink bugs would be a war crime.
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Jun 10, 2021 00:46
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priznat posted:It’d be funny if it boosted efficiency somehow. Fast and Furious NOS scene but cicadas
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Jun 10, 2021 00:48
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Fury Road methanol injection scene but with cicadas.
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Jun 10, 2021 01:34
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Wow. Sands of the Kalahari (1965) plot gets rolling when a small plane flies through a locust swarm & crashes in the desert.
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Jun 10, 2021 02:54
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Does General Electric publish a spec for the maximum allowable insect ingestion for a CF6-80C2?
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Jun 10, 2021 15:25
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Safety Dance posted:Does General Electric publish a spec for the maximum allowable insect ingestion for a CF6-80C2? 'Requirements are valid as described when operating in environments of less than 17% chitinous solids by volume"
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Jun 10, 2021 15:56
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Can't wait to not be anyone involved in cleaning up all the baked on bug guts from cicada fun time 2021
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Jun 10, 2021 18:01
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 https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41032/texan-f-16-viper-appears-in-vietnam-era-green-and-tan-camouflage
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Jun 11, 2021 04:01
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MrYenko posted:Cirrus’ are a loving scourge Almost as bad as the cirrus pilots are the cirrus simps on Reddit. They can’t take a “pull the handle” joke to save their lives. And any attempt at constructive discussion of the problems caused by having a get out of jail free card in the cockpit (mostly poor weather related decision making) is dismissed as trolling and being a hater. They’re like Elon musk simps but (presumably) with pilots licenses. I guess that’s what I get for looking at Reddit.
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Jun 11, 2021 05:33
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BIG HEADLINE posted:
Jet fighters look way better when they aren't flat boring gray.
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Jun 11, 2021 05:44
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charliemonster42 posted:Almost as bad as the cirrus pilots are the cirrus simps on Reddit. They can’t take a “pull the handle” joke to save their lives. And any attempt at constructive discussion of the problems caused by having a get out of jail free card in the cockpit (mostly poor weather related decision making) is dismissed as trolling and being a hater. They’re like Elon musk simps but (presumably) with pilots licenses. It sounds like trolling to me. “Well, because your car has breaks you make poor decisions like driving faster than 10 mph, going down hills or being in the same lane as another car within 500 yards. Real men disable those thing and drive exposed to real consequences for their actions. ”
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Jet fighters look way better when they aren't flat boring gray. The A-10 painted up in D-Day camo with invasion stripes looked loving rad
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