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poemdexter posted:I'm still trying to figure out what "2 million dollar apartment" means. Is it a condo she bought for 2 million? Is it an apartment for 2 million a month? Is the sum of her monthly rent payments over a year equal to 2 million dollars?
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Tiggum posted:It's an apartment. That she bought for $2,000,000. To live in. I'm pretty sure. That seems the simplest and most likely explanation. I didn't even know you could purchase an apartment outright. Do you still get ownership/equity or does it mean you just don't need to pay monthly rent/mortgage?
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Jun 9, 2021 15:58
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these are all slight variations on "poo poo I will never have a chance of owning" so who loving cares tbh
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Jun 9, 2021 16:01
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poemdexter posted:I didn't even know you could purchase an apartment outright. Do you still get ownership/equity or does it mean you just don't need to pay monthly rent/mortgage?
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Jun 9, 2021 16:03
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poemdexter posted:I didn't even know you could purchase an apartment outright. Do you still get ownership/equity or does it mean you just don't need to pay monthly rent/mortgage? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condominium
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Thanatosian posted:Functionally, it's a condo, which is just an individual apartment owned by a person. It may be a co-op ownership structure instead of a condominium ownership structure, and that may be why they're calling it an apartment. Yeah, I was just confused at calling her calling it an apartment over a condo.
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Jun 9, 2021 16:29
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poemdexter posted:Yeah, I was just confused at calling her calling it an apartment over a condo. Pretty common in new york
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Jun 9, 2021 17:23
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Tiggum posted:It's an apartment. That she bought for $2,000,000. To live in. I'm pretty sure. That seems the simplest and most likely explanation. It is a paper mache apartment made out of two million pulverized dollar bills
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Jun 9, 2021 20:16
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It's made of the crushed souls and dreams of all those people who believed
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Jun 9, 2021 20:35
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PathAsc posted:How hard is it to just do the things you speak? where did she speak that she would never purchase a home? I'm willing to be wrong on this one. Cup Runneth Over posted:guillotine this guy imo as long as you're consistent I can respect it
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Jun 9, 2021 20:37
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poemdexter posted:I didn't even know you could purchase an apartment outright. Do you still get ownership/equity or does it mean you just don't need to pay monthly rent/mortgage? to really suit your username, you should be posting this as poetry instead of prose
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Jun 9, 2021 20:39
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Hodgepodge posted:to really suit your username, you should be posting this as poetry instead of prose It's blank verse
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Jun 9, 2021 20:51
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indigi posted:where did she speak that she would never purchase a home? I'm willing to be wrong on this one. I give up, it's not the ownership that I'm taking issue with it's the whole farce of "I'm for the people and equality and bettering lives" then dropping apparently 2 mil on a place. But at that point what you quoted was about pretty much anyone that acts like they are for this stuff while doing stuff that is counter to that image. I'll be honest, I'm just not pleased with the whole situation because it's something I see repeatedly happening all around me and each time it just drives the point home that capitalism is poison to all that it touches.
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Jun 9, 2021 21:02
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so what’s your expectation? that she gives away half of her income?
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Jun 9, 2021 21:13
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she's a media performer, don't be looking at celebrities for moral guidance on a loving thing.
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Jun 9, 2021 21:15
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Definitely not looking at them for moral guidance, and is donating some so goddamn hard to do? I cannot comprehend spending that much on a domicile, but I'm an idiot for even bothering with this derail.
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Jun 9, 2021 21:26
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PathAsc posted:I give up, it's not the ownership that I'm taking issue with it's the whole farce of "I'm for the people and equality and bettering lives" then dropping apparently 2 mil on a place. But at that point what you quoted was about pretty much anyone that acts like they are for this stuff while doing stuff that is counter to that image. I regret to inform you that celebrities' that happen to espouse leftists views also exist in society. The actions of buying a house isn't something to get upset about. There is no obligation for an individual to give some %of income to whatever hierarchy of needs that exist in your head. Taxes exist for exactly this kind of redistribution, and until she starts advocating for trickle down economics or starts a super-pac/think-tank a la the heritage foundation or the Obama foundation there is literally no problem at all about a worker spending their money.
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Jun 9, 2021 21:27
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PathAsc posted:Definitely not looking at them for moral guidance, and is donating some so goddamn hard to do? charities are kind of a minefield of money-laundering and grift, so while I get what you’re saying, it’s not necessarily that simple
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Jun 9, 2021 21:32
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I regret to inform you that celebrities' that happen to espouse leftists views also exist in society. The actions of buying a house isn't something to get upset about. There is no obligation for an individual to give some %of income to whatever hierarchy of needs that exist in your head. Taxes exist for exactly this kind of redistribution, and until she starts advocating for trickle down economics or starts a super-pac/think-tank a la the heritage foundation or the Obama foundation there is literally no problem at all about a worker spending their money. nope sorry you can't call yourself a socialist unless you wear naught but sackcloth and ashes
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Jun 9, 2021 21:33
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Lotta goons needing to justify things to themselves itt
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Jun 9, 2021 21:38
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did she ever even call herself a socialist or did she just make a kawaii video in a bernie shirt a year ago and then launch a gaming channel?
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Jun 9, 2021 21:41
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indigi posted:I know who she is based on the ok boomer thing and people in this thread having fits because she posted a video of her home. that’s not bragging. also lol you have awful friends if they wouldn’t be happy that you bought a home whether they’re unemployed or not Do you seriously not understand why it's hosed up to brag about essentially winning the lottery in a society where most people are barely getting by? Bragging about having cool things that people you care about unjustly can't have, through no fault of their own (unless you chose to give them those things, which you are choosing not to do) is a bad thing to do. Just "buying a home" isn't the same thing as buying a home that costs more than most people will make in their entire lives as a 20-something. I would expect a poor/unemployed friend to be upset if I had enough money to buy 10 houses and instead got myself a single house that costs as much as 10 normal houses. They would be 100% justified in thinking I'm a lovely person if I did that, regardless of whether they actually ended up feeling that way. And I'd feel like a lovely person, because I'm not a sociopath. Granted, most people making decisions like this simply wouldn't closely know anyone not of a similar economic status, which is basically just as bad, but in a different way. I genuinely do not understand getting defensive about this. We're talking about <1% of the population. These people don't matter. I don't see why it's bad if people get angry at some random 1%-er, regardless of whether they hold any sort of power. While it's dumb for someone to think that a person buying a $2M house is politically relevant, it's even dumber to think other people are wrong for having negative opinions towards such a person.
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Jun 9, 2021 22:04
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God Hole posted:did she ever even call herself a socialist or did she just make a kawaii video in a bernie shirt a year ago and then launch a gaming channel? iirc she did actually voice support for his campaign, but yeah that's it
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:iirc she did actually voice support for his campaign, but yeah that's it which is like the bare minimum for entry tier leftism
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Jun 9, 2021 22:40
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PathAsc posted:Definitely not looking at them for moral guidance, and is donating some so goddamn hard to do? “some” I’m just looking for some actual reasoning here rather than “it makes me personally feel bad that someone bought a decently sized place to live.” so what’s the maximum salary someone can earn before they have to give the rest away? lol “bragging.” 📽
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Jun 9, 2021 23:10
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As a lifestyle propagandist for capital, I earned my luxury highrise mansion in the metropole #jealousmuch
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indigi posted:“some” My reasoning is that if you make any kind of claim or allusion to a certain ideal you should stick to it. That's it. The fact that there is no need for anyone to own a $2mil house or whatever is my own view, my main point was that there was a certain ideal that was being used and then promptly discarded. That sickens me. Good on anyone who finally makes it big in whatever way and can maybe not have to destroy their body and mind for capital anymore. Bad on them if their supposed communal views become non-existent. That's it, that's my whole deal. Saying one thing and then doing another is infuriating, and especially when how many people are losing their loving places to live right goddamn now because lol what jobs have recovered so far? Who the person is doesn't matter, their perceived power or whatever doesn't matter. It's the hypocrisy and flaunting of wealth in the face of the previous words they've put forth to any ideology that is counter to that. I don't have an answer to the maximum salary and giveaway question because I don't think she should have to give "the rest" away or anything, and there's the problem with wages and cost of living in general being wildly in flux nation wide on the best of days. What a dollar can get you here in my hometown will get you fuckall in say any coastal bullshit area.
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PathAsc posted:My reasoning is that if you make any kind of claim or allusion to a certain ideal you should stick to it. That's it. you keep saying this but refuse to define it in any way. give me some numbers so I can understand what you’re trying to say
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World War Mammories posted:I once read someone's claim that there's a pattern of sports superstars from poorer backgrounds burning through their income and ending up destitute again in retirement because they try to support large swathes of the family/social circle that supported them. don't remember where I read it and I'm not gonna find it again and I don't know if evidence supports it. but it struck me because it's almost like there's a structural problem that their individual actions cannot solve. to me, articles celebrating such generosity are kind of like those stories about, say, some kid running a lemonade stand raising a thousand bucks to help pay for their mom's cancer treatment - good for the kid, good for the basketball player and his mom, but the surrounding situation is super hosed up if you think about it for more than two seconds part of the reason english footballers have been noticeably vocal against the government and media is that the footballers union has been incredibly proactive in supporting and organising since the 90s for exactly this reason. Footballers had relatively normal financial issues until the arrival of big money with the preamier league, and that first group of players went bankrupt at absolutely astonishing rates. For a lot of them it was family, or setting up pubs/construction firms/restaurants with lots of cash and no experience running a business, and a few just lived large for as long as they could. Raheem Sterling was looking for every outlet that'd have him after he was criticised and profiled as flash for buying his parents a house, while white teammates were praised as providers.
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indigi posted:[...] so I can understand what you’re trying to say "I'm confused and you can't stop me," isn't the power move you think it is, you horny idiot.
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Jun 10, 2021 00:15
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I refuse to define my position, therefore, my argument is unimpeachable!
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Jun 10, 2021 00:20
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SO MAD this hot living anime girl isn't a real true leftist in her ~kokoro heart~ I can't jack off to this 
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Jun 10, 2021 00:23
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i'm sorry i ever posted the tiktok lady, may god forgive me. 
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Jun 10, 2021 00:23
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we all make mistakes. it’s ok
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Jun 10, 2021 00:24
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uber_stoat posted:i'm sorry i ever posted the tiktok lady, may god forgive me. don't get me wrong it's perfectly fine guillotine fodder but the sincerely personal hurty fee fee posting is just embarrassing as gently caress y'all, lmao
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Jun 10, 2021 00:26
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I was betrayed by the twitch girl who wore campaign memorabilia….may god consign her to the deepest circle of hell for this
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Jun 10, 2021 00:28
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i am personally beyond offended that someone would spend that much money on a condo in downtown dallas
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Jun 10, 2021 00:30
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wait she lives in Dallas?? what the gently caress why you have the money to leave
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PathAsc posted:My reasoning is that if you make any kind of claim or allusion to a certain ideal you should stick to it. That's it. The fact that there is no need for anyone to own a $2mil house or whatever is my own view, my main point was that there was a certain ideal that was being used and then promptly discarded. That sickens me. Good on anyone who finally makes it big in whatever way and can maybe not have to destroy their body and mind for capital anymore. Bad on them if their supposed communal views become non-existent. That's it, that's my whole deal. Saying one thing and then doing another is infuriating, and especially when how many people are losing their loving places to live right goddamn now because lol what jobs have recovered so far? Wait how is stanning for Bernie, a democratic socialist reformer (at best lol), incompatible with buying an expensive house under our current economic system? Selling out for material comfort is the entire demsoc sales pitch.
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The Oldest Man posted:Wait how is stanning for Bernie, a democratic socialist reformer (at best lol), incompatible with buying an expensive house under our current economic system? Selling out for material comfort is the entire demsoc sales pitch. no no you see it’s not JUST that she bought it, it’s that she POSTED about it on social media (which is literally her job)! her actions are unconscionable
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