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I just want one person to ever have any faith in me. Even myself.
I understand that feeling.
I believe in you. You do all kinds of cool and amazing stuff, and that's outside of work!
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I believe in you too, MN!
Even Santa Claus believes in you!
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Laying in the forest, by the water
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This old man keeps calling the cemetery at 2 or 3 or 5 in the morning, super fuckin angry that his family's headstone is set back-to-back with some other person's stone, like they all are. Everything is 100% exactly in the right place. Every single lawn is set up this way.
Apparently it's disrespectful and ridiculous and he paid a lot of money for those stones and he's gonna call the local news and sue the city and blow us up on social media. The messages start off mild and end in screaming that makes the phone mic distort. And he's not reachable when you call back.
Get a hobby, bro.
It's actually fairly common for people to call and complain that we moved their stones/graves/family lots/entire lawns since they last visited.
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Jun 11, 2021 18:35
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This old man keeps calling the cemetery at 2 or 3 or 5 in the morning, super fuckin angry that his family's headstone is set back-to-back with some other person's stone, like they all are. Everything is 100% exactly in the right place. Every single lawn is set up this way.
Apparently it's disrespectful and ridiculous and he paid a lot of money for those stones and he's gonna call the local news and sue the city and blow us up on social media. The messages start off mild and end in screaming that makes the phone mic distort. And he's not reachable when you call back.
Get a hobby, bro.
It's actually fairly common for people to call and complain that we moved their stones/graves/family lots/entire lawns since they last visited.
These same people participate in local politics, too.
It's why I only served one term on the transportation board.
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Jun 11, 2021 20:06
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My boss is blowing up our phones because one case out 37 cases of beer accidentally contained two completely clean empty bottles. Of this was for beer we were delivering to stores or the like, I'd understand a bit more, but these were contract beers and it was 100% bottled so it's not like there was any kind of real loss or like it messed up the number of bottles. I get being vigilant but that's almost 1300 bottles bottled using a really small two head filler over two days by two people. It's time consuming and mind numbing. Minor mistakes will happen. It's how manufacturing, especially at a small scale goes sometimes.
As far as mistakes go this is so minor. I'm not trying to dodge responsibility, but the level of anger over this is completely unwarranted. It reminds me of a boss I had who's freakout over the accidental delivery of a partially filled keg was directly responsible for three people quitting the company.
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Jun 12, 2021 04:44
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Dude is freaking out. Now we have to drive an hour and a half away, one way, to apologize in person. He flipped out at us for not answering while in the middle of brewing, then flipped when I said that I couldn't respond because I was brewing. I'm definitely putting in my notice next month. gently caress this.
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Jun 12, 2021 05:16
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Today for lunch I got yelled at by my boss. He mostly directed it at my coworker. I'm done. I'm checking with my last company to see if they'll take me back before they get the license. If so, I'm putting in my notice on Monday. I refuse to put up with this.
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Jun 12, 2021 06:14
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Why is your boss being such a weirdo?
Everywhere, everyone is red and green
I gotta lust for glory and a tape machine
I'm living out Frank Coppola's dreams
Outta my mind, I'm feelin' mean
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Jun 12, 2021 06:36
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Why is your boss being such a weirdo?
Probably lovely Rich Kid Syndrome. Unfortunately most of those afflicted lead long, happy lives.
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Jun 12, 2021 06:40
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Yep! Fortunately I think I can just leave. Hopefully.
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Jun 12, 2021 06:44
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If I can I'm putting in my notice on Monday.
I talked about it with a friend and she was so weirdly dismissive and talked down to me about everything. It was so bizarre and frustrating. She's someone who discusses a lot of similar issues she has with things in her life, but is like this often. It was very frustrating and bizarre and made me even more upset.
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Jun 12, 2021 07:01
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Yeah, so sorry that became a bit of an outburst. I'm going to get lunch with my coworker. Maybe some beers after work. My boss laid into him way more, he laughed it off mostly, but I feel bad about it. I'm also flush right now so I'll get his lunch and beers probably. What a day.
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Jun 12, 2021 07:15
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Also thanks for listening and being supportive
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Jun 12, 2021 07:17
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I keep reading about EFN's insane boss, and I keep thinking "why don't you just", then I keep remembering that there are a whole lot of people in management positions who shouldn't be, and I am just so, so sorry anyone has to put up with this in order to have food and shelter.
Anyway I think you're doing the right thing, you gave this jerk every opportunity to not be an idiot, and he picked idiot each time.
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Jun 12, 2021 07:19
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Like I think some folks believe good management means yelling at people in order to get them in line. And that's a part of it, but it's such a miniscule part.
When I got moved into management, they actually sent me to "lower management" training, and what I got out of it was that good management involves a lot of listening and swinging your mighty hammer in order to clear obstacles that are preventing your people from doing their best. In the training it seemed clear that some folks thought the hammer was for their employees. I hope they got something out of it.
I wish I knew a way to get everybody to be kind. Ugh.
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Jun 12, 2021 07:29
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I keep reading about EFN's insane boss, and I keep thinking "why don't you just", then I keep remembering that there are a whole lot of people in management positions who shouldn't be, and I am just so, so sorry anyone has to put up with this in order to have food and shelter.
Anyway I think you're doing the right thing, you gave this jerk every opportunity to not be an idiot, and he picked idiot each time.
He's also the loving owner. It's just a mess because, like a lot of owners who can't actually produce or do what their company provides, detectives are very top down and micromanaged, and he sucks at delineating and scheduling tasks, but only he can decide on them.
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Jun 12, 2021 07:33
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Hell, I could even understand an angry outburst. We're human. I got along really well with my boss at the place I worked in Seattle, but he snapped at me a few times, but he always apologized, next day at the latest. Because he's a loving adult.
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Jun 12, 2021 07:37
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Honestly, your boss is going to lose both brewers and that's funny considering he owns a brewery and can't loving brew.
This is 100% on his rear end.
Oh. Absolutely. I'm way rooting for my coworker getting the much better job closer to home because he's a cool guy who absolutely deserves it. He's quitting either way, I just hope he gets it.
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Jun 12, 2021 11:40
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I know you aren't interested, but Florian is hiring...
I don't know if I say I'm uninterested, but I'm pretty sure I can just go back to my last company. They had their issues but being beligerant jerks who yelled at me over minor mistakes wasn't a thing they did.
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Jun 12, 2021 13:21
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My companies lock screen photos are all gorgeous shots of vacation destinations and natural wonders so you get to see what you're missing by punching the clock every day for the rest of your existence.
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Jun 12, 2021 23:15
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EFN have you tried 
Really just sounds like the one guy who signs the paychecks that really needs the treatment.
Yeah. For sure. I'm absolutely done. He's also the kind of guy that thinks he keeps hiring unreliable people, and that's why he goes through so much staff. I tried, but I'm not putting up with a hostile work environment.
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Jun 13, 2021 05:39
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Man...gently caress some of my friends. People who have never worked in manufacturing and the like really don't understand how time sensitive processes can be meaning sometimes a "timely response" isn't possible.
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Jun 13, 2021 05:52
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Oh, so you're just leaving me on read huh? Please respond asap
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Jun 13, 2021 05:55
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I'm sorry this new job has turned out so poorly. How long would it take to move back and is that going to set you back financially?
Everywhere, everyone is red and green
I gotta lust for glory and a tape machine
I'm living out Frank Coppola's dreams
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Jun 13, 2021 08:40
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I'm sorry this new job has turned out so poorly. How long would it take to move back and is that going to set you back financially?
I'm alright financially. That was part of the reason that I decided to take it in the first place. It wasn't a very big move. I'll probably give three months notice so I have time to get an apartment I'm happy with lined up. All in all it could be a lot worse. I'm pretty sure my last job will take me back even if they don't have their brewing license yet. So overall I just have to deal with it for 3 more months, and it's not like there's much he can do about it.
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Jun 13, 2021 08:46
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I'm alright financially. That was part of the reason that I decided to take it in the first place. It wasn't a very big move. I'll probably give three months notice so I have time to get an apartment I'm happy with lined up. All in all it could be a lot worse. I'm pretty sure my last job will take me back even if they don't have their brewing license yet. So overall I just have to deal with it for 3 more months, and it's not like there's much he can do about it.
And you found a great Korean restaurant to which you can take friends on outings!
Everywhere, everyone is red and green
I gotta lust for glory and a tape machine
I'm living out Frank Coppola's dreams
Outta my mind, I'm feelin' mean
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Jun 13, 2021 09:00
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And you found a great Korean restaurant to which you can take friends on outings!
I met a lot of cool people here, actually. If it wasn't for this job sucking I could see myself staying for at least a year. Also most people in the city who know my boss don't like him.
I'll definitely be back to visit.
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