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Guavanaut posted:Let me guess, mid 2010s, around the peak of all that "Enjoy the Decline" and "Curse of the High IQ" poo poo where being an abrasive rear end in a top hat went from being a Tucker Max/Maddox style gimmick to actual career advice by people who bought into the surface uncritically, before the world saw that that just gets you Donald Trump? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3tYvIkVrTo (This might not be the right video because I'm out with the dog so I can't watch it all, but if he starts shouting about the health and safety measures he's unwilling to put in place then that's it.) There seems to be this huge transition issue when small businesses (especially 'punk'/rebel companies) who are used to treating people like poo poo get over a certain size and have to treat their employees with proper rights, and they just loving lose it because they cannot accept that they are the bad guys now. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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keep punching joe posted:As terrible as brewdog are, their Nanny State and Punk AF (alcohol free) beers are almost indistinguishable from the real thing. We don't have Nanny State so I'm just remembering from ages ago: found it alright, but still lacking that body from a real beer Heineken 0.0 is the best of the boring lagers, if anyone cares (by which I mean it's the only one that isn't ridiculously sweet)
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Jun 10, 2021 14:13
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feedmegin posted:I mean, my understanding is that it is in the sense that if we wanted to glass Washington DC tomorrow we could do that. The lack of independence is more that we rely on the US for warhead maintenance, so if we wanted to glass DC 5 years from now that might be more difficult - but if it came down to it and we did ever go full Juche I suspect we could develop the ability. *Missile* maintenance. The "delivery system" is American, the "physics package" is British although based on an American design (I love the banality of world-ending weaponry naming). Now the UK Government has always maintained that they have absolute, 100% guaranteed independence in the targeting of Trident *but* the little that we know of how the system works very strongly suggests that it is extremely unlikely that we could target Washington with them. Basically the missiles leave port with a number of pre-programmed target packages - there's that banality again - from which the MoD/PM can choose, and they can also be reprogrammed while underway with "assistance" from the shore. This much at least is known and acknowledged by HMG. The rumour and conjecture starts from that point. Now the pre-programmed thing isn't a deliberate limiting of the system - well it *is*, but the limiting isn't the point. We need to roll back a bit to the whole way ballistic missiles work - effectively there are three phases to a ballistic missile trajectory: Boost - this is with the engines running. This is the easiest part to guide - even the simplest firework is effectively a guided missile in its boost phase, it goes where you point it. However because this is also the point furthest from the target, any errors in aiming at this point massively accumulate - goons of A Certain Age will remember the Terrifying Scud Missile Threat that mostly took out random fish in the Med when aimed at Israel, with failed Patriot missile launches causing almost as much damage in both Israel and Saudi Arabia as the actual missiles did. On Trident (and presumably Trident II although this has never been confirmed) this part of the flight is entirely pre-programmed by the sub, based on its known position and the target position. Coast/mid-course - this is the point with the engines off. You *can* correct course here, a bit (in fact Trident II is rumoured to be able to change course sufficiently to move the target area several hundred kilometres, although that's more about decoying where you're aiming for - modern guidance systems can generally get you to within a few dozen kilometres of your target from the other side of the world just with boost-phase guidance. This is the part that turns it from a counter-value "lob it at a city" weapon to a precision first-strike weapon, or at least one likely to be able to get close enough (which in nuclar weapons terms is a couple of kms). This part is done with astral navigation on Trident II (GPS not really being anything like reliable enough at that altitude or speed, and also likely to be one of the first victims in an actual nuclear war) Re-entry - this is where the poo poo really hits the fan and where rumour really takes over. On the way down the warheads split off as Multiple Independent Re-entry Vehicles (MIRVs) so a single missile can attack multiple targets. Obviously the landing point has already been set by Isaac Newton, the bastard, so each MIRV is capable of maneuvering as it re-enters, up to 50kms from the impact point that physics dictates. The thing is - if you've played KSP or watched Apollo 13 or whatever - re-entry is a loving stressful time. While maneuvering is easy (even a flat disk generates enough lift at those sort of speeds to be able to change course by hundreds of kms) *targeting* sure as hell isn't. Astral navigation is out because of the atmospheric turbulence of your re-entry, GPS - even if it was still working and not being jammed/spoofed - isn't anything like fast enough, and your enemy is very unlikely to be polite enough to offer you radar guidance down. Therefore it is *very strongly* rumoured that the MIRVs use some combination of visual, thermal, and radar imaging to identify the target area and get the canned sunshine exactly where it needs to be - a rumoured accuracy of tens of metres. So... the rumour goes that the reason why target packages are pre-loaded is that the re-entry guidance is entirely reliant on having recent, high-quality, surveillance of the target - something only the Yanks have, and of course a big enough amount of data that you wouldn't really want to download it while underway. The underway re-targeting presumably only loads target coordinates and astral navigation data (the shore assistance may be because of a very limited capability of the astral navigation requiring careful selection of the data it will use, or simply as a safety precaution to stop the weapons officer targeting his ex-wife's house. Assuming these rumours are true then both versions are actually true - Jack Tar Ripper really does have the ability to choose any target he wants, but someone somewhere in the NRO or whatever trillion-dollar agency you've never heard of that actually compiles the targeting information would probably at least ask a few questions if they get asked to work up a target package that includes 38.8952465N, 77.0387835W.
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Jun 10, 2021 14:25
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Borrovan posted:Heineken 0.0 is the best of the boring lagers, if anyone cares (by which I mean it's the only one that isn't ridiculously sweet)  Even though regular Heineken is pish, the 0.0 is the best of a mediocre crop.
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Jun 10, 2021 14:37
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His Divine Shadow posted:I am in favor of slowly moving the earth further out, to counter the increasing luminosity of the sun, 500 million years left at most before it becomes too hot advanced life. Not enough. https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1402388019420741633?s=20
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Jun 10, 2021 14:43
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Solar shades would be a better idea, free solar power too. E: or I guess paint the planet white. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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Jun 10, 2021 14:49
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goddamnedtwisto posted:About half of this thread voted Lib Dem in 2010, lol and a considerably smaller number voted for Actual Nick Clegg in Sheffield Hallam
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Jun 10, 2021 15:01
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I don't get all the fuss about eclipses. The sun goes away every day but she always comes back again.
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Jun 10, 2021 15:03
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goddamnedtwisto posted:About half of this thread voted Lib Dem in 2010, lol Always happy that I got my Lib Dem voting out of the way in 2005 when they were lead by someone with actual principles.
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Jun 10, 2021 15:17
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God, the Lib Dems finally having their breakthrough moment in 2010 after a loving century, then promptly squandering it by loving over the students who'd voted for them in droves. A truly impressive act of political suicide, considering the stakes for them.
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Jun 10, 2021 15:24
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Algol Star posted:I don't get all the fuss about eclipses. The sun goes away every day but she always comes back again. Only if you sacrifice a goon at midnight upon a stark and barren hill while running anti-clockwise 3 times around said hill before the devil with the red eyes gets you. Example: 
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Jun 10, 2021 15:36
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TACD posted:You are Louie Gohmert AICMFP Is *that* why they're booing players taking the knee?
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Jun 10, 2021 15:36
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forkboy84 posted:Always happy that I got my Lib Dem voting out of the way e: vvv ninja'd in the correct disease & ruined the joke :/ Borrovan fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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Jun 10, 2021 15:38
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It's like measles in that there is a really good alternative that is better and painless but the british press couldn't abide that and so they try really hard to stop people doing it.
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Jun 10, 2021 15:40
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The Question IRL posted:Reading this post about argument decorum just reminded me of this tweet I saw yesterday.  saw this in the replies.https://twitter.com/panamaorange/status/1402710110200385536 What a bizarre claim for a Jesuit to make, "yes the Vatican is very moral we hide all the bestiality children in the basement." OwlFancier posted:Brilliant news that the terf court of terf island has decides that lovely terfs are the real victims of oppression.
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Jun 10, 2021 15:46
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goddamnedtwisto posted:About half of this thread voted Lib Dem in 2010, lol Tbf for a lot of us it was out first GE and we were very young and naive. Clegg did say all the right things at the time, and for me in particular all the lovely things about the country I could remember had happened under new labour. In retrospect I should have voted TUSC or something but eh, you live and learn.
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Jun 10, 2021 16:04
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ThomasPaine posted:Tbf for a lot of us it was out first GE and we were very young and naive. Clegg did say all the right things at the time, and for me in particular all the lovely things about the country I could remember had happened under new labour. In retrospect I should have voted TUSC or something but eh, you live and learn. For a moment - especially with my useless twat of an MP - I got very close to it too. I don't judge those that did fall for it (but I will point and laugh, I'm only human).
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Jun 10, 2021 16:14
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Guavanaut posted:What a bizarre claim for a Jesuit to make, "yes the Vatican is very moral we hide all the bestiality children in the basement." I think it's more weird that they let a Jesuit into Opus Dei. That's like having a communist Nazi. It does happen ofc, but it is weird as hell.
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Jun 10, 2021 16:34
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You have to be both a high ranking Jesuit and in Opus Dei before you find out about the bestiality children. If you get into the inner circle of the Rosicrucians as well you get to know about the button that turns the dome of St Peter's basilica into a giant sex arse.
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Jun 10, 2021 16:45
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Once you ascend to the Seventh Level Of Anglicanism you discover the secret to making a Victoria sponge that manages to taste of literally nothing at all. They're still so furious about Kiplings stealing their secret that their handshakes become almost dry.
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Jun 10, 2021 16:57
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Apropos of literally nothing at all, I've just discovered a short history of not fire fighting, not even fire hydrants themselves, but of the plates that mark fire hydrants and it's bought me more joy than anything else on the internet has in months.
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Jun 10, 2021 17:01
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Here's the Deputy Speaker in the House giving GB News a nice plug (at the end of a debate about journalists safety) https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2e811f25-7a77-438d-9a60-dbea42b4c6e8?in=16:58:44&out=16:59:09
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Jun 10, 2021 17:05
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Is *that* why they're booing players taking the knee?
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Jun 10, 2021 17:13
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Siri how can we poo poo the bed worse than England? https://twitter.com/ScotlandNT/status/1402968428143648772
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Jun 10, 2021 18:06
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keep punching joe posted:Siri how can we poo poo the bed worse than England? Is Nick Clegg advising the Scottish FA?
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Jun 10, 2021 18:09
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keep punching joe posted:Siri how can we poo poo the bed worse than England? https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1402937343519113222
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Jun 10, 2021 18:14
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keep punching joe posted:Siri how can we poo poo the bed worse than England? https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1402937343519113222 Short answer: Rangers fans.
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Jun 10, 2021 18:15
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Good job Netherlands, wouldn't want to oppose the general concept of racism in case the stadium full of Zwaarte Piet cosplayers get their feelings hurt
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Jun 10, 2021 18:18
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Josef bugman posted:As an addendum, been mucking about with the nukemap to check to see what might happen. I did this thing about nukes years ago and really need to finish the rewrite but it's pretty much all still accurate for being written by a layperson
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Jun 10, 2021 18:57
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Guavanaut posted:Apparently the ruling is more like "you can believe in gender critical as a philosophy, but you still can't harass people or misgender them" which I suppose puts it on par with our rules about Holocaust denial and other trash tier theories, but all the terves are reporting it as a win. There's a lot I could say about it but it's exhausting being trans and I have a migraine so the short version is that the presence of such beliefs in society is itself harmful and contributes to trans suicides, and the protection of it will, regardless of what Mr Justice Choudhury says, absolutely embolden terves to do the exact stuff he says it doesn't allow them to do.
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Jun 10, 2021 19:00
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It's on par with our rules about Holocaust denial, yes. Nobody believes in that just because they have honest skepticism about data collected in the period from 1933-1945 Germany either, it's poo poo. But that's what Holocaust deniers always try to claim when they do get pulled up on it, and they always end up showing their rear end if sufficiently called out. https://twitter.com/JustALillaBit/status/1402992097074946054
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Jun 10, 2021 19:07
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It doesn't really do anything to dim my blistering contempt for every aspect of this disgusting society I have to live in and most of the people in it, especially the people who run it. Burn the lot of them imo.
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Jun 10, 2021 19:26
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1402937343519113222 What's Wales' excuse? we have no money or prospects, i thought it was somehow worth it because we're obviously less racist than England. Oh no.
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Jun 10, 2021 19:34
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Jun 10, 2021 19:37
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Regarde Aduck posted:What's Wales' excuse? You might not notice it as much because there's about 15 non-white people in the entire country (excluding the sharia no-go zones in Cardiff / Daily Mail editors' imaginations), but every black person I know here says it's a lot worse than England. E: a lot of it's probably because Wales skews very white & very old compared to rUK tbf
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Jun 10, 2021 19:46
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OwlFancier posted:It doesn't really do anything to dim my blistering contempt for every aspect of this disgusting society I have to live in and most of the people in it, especially the people who run it. But it's equally significant that same case found that deliberate misgendering is harassment. Forstater's fans are being a bit quiet about that, it's been explicitly put on the same level as telling Tommy Robinson "you can believe that the Prophet Mohammed was a pedophile all you want, but when you go around shouting it at Muslims you're breaking the law." That's an important precedent. Also important is that Ann Sinnott's LGB Alliance bullshit got shut down. The BBC are pro-terf though so they kept quiet on that. https://twitter.com/stephenpaton134/status/1402939947594682372 So, as established in law, the only way to deal with this is by making expression of GC beliefs as unpalatable to the public as expression of Holocaust denial. There was almost a decade between David Irving openly denying the Holocaust and a judge calling him on record an antisemite and a racist. During that time he still got invited onto media as an 'alternative voice'. And thousands told him to gently caress off. But the majority of women don't support cornerstones of GC poo poo (and a slim majority of men, but far too many seem care way to much about women's toilets for some reason), so all we can do now is keep pushing against it (and reporting it when they inevitably overstep the line, as they always do). https://twitter.com/PhdGeek/status/1402906291371184130
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Jun 10, 2021 19:50
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Regarde Aduck posted:What's Wales' excuse? Cardiff and Swansea both have massive shithead contingents.
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Jun 10, 2021 19:53
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Borrovan posted:Wales is very obviously racist as gently caress. When I moved to Manchester I lived with a bloke from Bridgend who had never seen a black person before. I actually think there were about 5 non-white people in my comprehensive school in Swansea.
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them brewdog bellends can keep their fancy trendy citrussy piss ahll stick wi me nyacassal broon, like!!!!!!!!!   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU0-fmKI0lU
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