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There will be a VR game where you get to sit in a mech's cockpit and pull a bunch of levers and press a bunch of buttons. It's only a matter of time.
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Caesar Saladin posted:is steel battalion even a good game? people only talk about the controller gimmick. I bet it sucks. Nobody's played it so how would you know? Someone's got an lp of it going right now if you're curious.
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Caesar Saladin posted:is steel battalion even a good game? people only talk about the controller gimmick. I bet it sucks. I bought Steel Battallion for $200 when I was in high school and played through it. It's a good enough game for the genre. It lives up to its gimmick (e.g. MechWarrior but with a cockpit style controller.) There are hardcore elements like having to flip a bunch of buttons for an ignition sequence, the mech tipping over if you turn too quickly, and it deleting your save if you don't press the eject button (though you have a generous amount of time to do so), but it's still essentially Mechwarrior. It's arcade-y enough that the missions themselves aren't a slog, and there's subtle aspects (e.g. the enemies know if you lock-on and will dodge so manually aiming and firing your weapons is better.) Some features I liked in mechwarrior and other games in the genre etc. are not in Steel Batallion (keep in mind I last played this game ~20 years ago so my memory is a little hazy) - I remember the mission sequence being linear rather than branching, and that while you'd unlock new kinds of VTs as you progressed, you couldn't actually customize the VTs (in games like armored core /mechwarrior, half the fun was just customizing the mechs/earning money to buy upgrades.) I concede that it does make sense to focus on the piloting aspects. The big omitted feature that bothered me was that there was no concept of weak spots / positional damage - in other games, you could destroy specific parts of mechs to bring them down quicker or neutralize their weapons, where Steel Batallion health was a simple "armor" value. This struck me as a weird feature to omit (hell, in mechwarrior for the SNES, arms/legs could individually be destroyed). Overall the game was good enough that I didn't feel ripped off when I bought it new, and the experience of using the special controller was a fairly unique gaming experience not replicated to this day. It definitely isn't the best game of all time and $200 was pushing it for the experience - if you wanted to play this game nowadays, you're looking at spending five hundred dollars on a used controller + whatever it takes to get an original xbox, which is a lot for a single player game you might play for a week or so before getting bored.
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poisonpill posted:They rebooted Thief, it was called Dishonored. They rebooted Deus Ex, it was called Deus Ex: Something Something. They rebooted Sleeping Dogs, it was called "play GTA V and then some Batman". Dishonored, while a very good game that i've played all the way to the end, only bears a superficial resemblance to Looking Glass Studio's 1998 masterpiece. e:i finally watched Scarface and now i can say that i've played every single Grand Theft Auto game that will ever be made. tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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Jun 10, 2021 18:04
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Steel Battalion got two sequels, one of which was an online multiplayer game version again for the game with the 200 dollar controller
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Jun 10, 2021 18:15
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tango alpha delta posted:Dishonored, while a very good game that i've played all the way to the end, only bears a superficial resemblance to Looking Glass Studio's 1998 masterpiece. They have quite a lot of similarities, the steampunk element, the general downbeat tone, the slight hint of mysticism, Dishonored almost feels like its set at a different time in the Thief universe
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Jun 10, 2021 18:22
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dishonored is a much, much better game if you play it as a vengeful supernatural killing machine rather than the protagonist of a different game franchise, though
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JollyBoyJohn posted:They have quite a lot of similarities, the steampunk element, the general downbeat tone, the slight hint of mysticism, Dishonored almost feels like its set at a different time in the Thief universe lol, i'm starting to think you actually haven't played the original Thief. Garrett is literally just some guy who keeps getting dragged into poo poo he couldn't care less about, but Corvo is literally the Lord Protector badass on a mission of revenge. The games are totally different. e:the map design is also totally different. Thief's maps are designed to let you be super duper sneaky, while Dishonored maps often times force you into some slicing and dicing because it makes sense from the plot. tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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Jun 10, 2021 18:40
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tango alpha delta posted:lol, i'm starting to think you actually haven't played the original Thief. Garrett is literally just some guy who keeps getting dragged into poo poo he couldn't care less about, but Corvo is literally the Lord Protector badass on a mission of revenge. The games are totally different. Regardless, I think both games are excellent and having Stephen Russell voice Corvo in Dishonored 2 was a nice throwback
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Regardless, I think both games are excellent and having Stephen Russell voice Corvo in Dishonored 2 was a nice throwback i agree completely. both games are excellent. Thief 1998 was the start of something very cool.
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Jun 10, 2021 18:47
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Garrett is just trying to pay the rent
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Jun 10, 2021 19:01
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Dishonored sucked. It was too easy. It's not like the A.I was good enough where it felt like you were a badass for tricking it. Your superpowers trivialized everything eventually aswell
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Jun 10, 2021 19:06
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the proper way to play Dishonored to be stealthy until you get caught, at which point you go full "no witnesses" you have to actively try to get High Chaos, trying to ghost the game is just playing yourself
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Jun 10, 2021 20:28
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The proper way to play Dishonored is to play it multiple times. There's alot of stuff you'd otherwise miss if you just go on a killing spree everywhere.
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Jun 10, 2021 20:32
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Zzulu posted:Dishonored sucked. It was too easy. It's not like the A.I was good enough where it felt like you were a badass for tricking it. Your superpowers trivialized everything eventually aswell It's only hard if you gently caress subtlety and charge in to every situation against all of the guards at once using all of your powers
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Jun 10, 2021 20:33
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The best mech game single player campaign is titanfall 2 and its not even close. It remains, still, bit getting nearly as much attention as it deserves. A tight 5 - 6 hour campaign, every level is creative and fun, and it's just fuckin rad all around. I know if you're looking for those lurching mech controls, you won't get that experience with titanfall 2 but it owns so loving much as just a FPS
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Jun 10, 2021 20:50
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Barudak posted:Only the finest FPS game about your girlfriend dying so you immediately move onto dating her sister why does this keep happening in mecha games
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Jun 10, 2021 21:13
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tango alpha delta posted:e:i finally watched Scarface and now i can say that i've played every single Grand Theft Auto game that will ever be made. You could also play scarface and shoot a man in the balls
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Jun 10, 2021 21:18
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Heavy Gear was an interesting Mechwarrior 2 knockoff (same engine, IIRC, it was made after Activision lost the battletech license), but Heavy Gear 2 was awesome. It actually used the HG license well and treated Gears as powered armor instead of giant battlemechs and played more like an FPS than a traditional mech game but was still very much in the whole mech game genre.
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Jun 10, 2021 21:29
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Actually the best mech game ever made is Xenogears, and even has gameplay variation between on foot and in mech, and mech customization despite being a JRPG. They also shamelessly rip off sci fi plots even to the point of calling cannibalism the Soylent System. Being anime as hell helps too. IMO giant mech games should be anime, since the concept is so characteristic of anime
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Jun 10, 2021 21:40
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Heavy Gear was an interesting Mechwarrior 2 knockoff (same engine, IIRC, it was made after Activision lost the battletech license), but Heavy Gear 2 was awesome. It actually used the HG license well and treated Gears as powered armor instead of giant battlemechs and played more like an FPS than a traditional mech game but was still very much in the whole mech game genre. Sk8r mech
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Jun 10, 2021 21:55
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No clue if this is unpopular or not but: voxel games are ugly and they suck. Just bad to look at. Worst choice any developer could make concerning a game's visuals imho
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Jun 10, 2021 22:32
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It just makes everything look like babbys first videogame
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Play posted:No clue if this is unpopular or not but: voxel games are ugly and they suck. Just bad to look at. Worst choice any developer could make concerning a game's visuals imho WILDTURKEY101 posted:It just makes everything look like babbys first videogame ?! I had to look this up, as afaik voxels came and went back in the day of Tiberian Sun and its ilk. Wikipedia tells me No Man's Sky and Space Engineers use them, is that what you're on about? Those games look fine imo.
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Jun 10, 2021 23:07
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Play posted:No clue if this is unpopular or not but: voxel games are ugly and they suck. Just bad to look at. Worst choice any developer could make concerning a game's visuals imho I honestly think they're better than the early 3d games.
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Doctor J Off posted:Actually the best mech game ever made is Xenogears, and even has gameplay variation between on foot and in mech, and mech customization despite being a JRPG. They also shamelessly rip off sci fi plots even to the point of calling cannibalism the Soylent System. Being anime as hell helps too. IMO giant mech games should be anime, since the concept is so characteristic of anime 
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Serephina posted:?! I had to look this up, as afaik voxels came and went back in the day of Tiberian Sun and its ilk. Wikipedia tells me No Man's Sky and Space Engineers use them, is that what you're on about? Those games look fine imo. No I mean like games that are composed entirely of cubes. 3d pixels, basically. Except pixel art is great to look at Here's a bunch of games that Steam thinks used voxels, not sure if they're all correct: https://store.steampowered.com/tags/en/Voxel/ Probably the most famous example would be minecraft, although I can kind of forgive it for being first of all one of the earliest and second of all having a large amount of the game mechanics center around the blocks. I don't forgive it for restarting the trend though, that's probably where all of this recent voxel stuff came from poisonpill posted:I honestly think they're better than the early 3d games. This may be true but that's just about the lowest bar you could possibly set. An acne ridden rear end in a top hat looks better than many of those games I mean, they're tolerable, but I think pretty much any other design choice you could possible make in terms of visuals would be better
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There's nothing wrong with voxels you drat wieners.
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Serephina posted:?! I had to look this up, as afaik voxels came and went back in the day of Tiberian Sun and its ilk. Wikipedia tells me No Man's Sky and Space Engineers use them, is that what you're on about? Those games look fine imo. I didn't know that and those games look fine so I retract anyway Elden Ring just looks like Dark Souls 4 and I can't wait
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:There's nothing wrong with voxels you drat wieners. Without voxels we wouldn't have Pixels and who doesn't want to gently caress Qbert?
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Play posted:Here's a bunch of games that Steam thinks used voxels, not sure if they're all correct: https://store.steampowered.com/tags/en/Voxel/ Probably the most famous example would be minecraft, although I can kind of forgive it for being first of all one of the earliest delta force came out in 1998
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Zzulu posted:Dishonored sucked. It was too easy. It's not like the A.I was good enough where it felt like you were a badass for tricking it. Your superpowers trivialized everything eventually aswell Unpopular opinion: video games being easy is a good thing, and makes them easier to enjoy. I have no desire for my leisure hobby to punch me in the dick, and I'm fed up with good concepts for games (indies in particular) being wasted on a misguided desire to chase the "omg git gud" crowd.
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Jun 11, 2021 02:05
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in 10 years every stupid game will ship with an off-the-shelf neural net that tunes itself in realtime to be slightly better than the current player at all times
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Jun 11, 2021 02:12
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The best mech game was battlezone 98, because you waded out in your mech feeling like a badass, but then you fell on your side because somebody thumped you. The curse of having only 2 legs.
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Jun 11, 2021 02:52
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Play posted:No clue if this is unpopular or not but: voxel games are ugly and they suck. Just bad to look at. Worst choice any developer could make concerning a game's visuals imho Valheim looks pretty good for being a voxel, I think it just needs to be granular enough to not be jagged. Like Nintendo pixels were just too big but Super Nintendo had some beautiful games.
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Jun 11, 2021 03:08
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With enough processing power you could have a voxel game look like Bioshock or w/e. Also, Noita is a (2d) voxel game basically. It looks fine for what it's going for.
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Jun 11, 2021 06:44
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Steel Battalion loving rules and if og xbox live had better netcode LoC would have been one of the best games on the entire platform
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Jun 11, 2021 06:58
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Are there any games that have big Western style stompy mechs fighting zippy anime style space mechs? Either side. A Zoids game that catches the spirit of the shows would be great.
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