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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/CoinDesk/status/1402015867244789760?s=20

the bitcoin boosters really don't know about US imperialism do they

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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz/status/1401921105980448770
https://twitter.com/IphoneComunist/status/1401961935705419783
https://twitter.com/StuartBlitz/status/1401559268562722817
https://twitter.com/marcvanderchijs/status/1401602507755823105

They're coming.

https://twitter.com/centamresearch/status/1402092339322048513

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Is he wrong?

https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/1401999965682085896

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Kamala is never right. Julian is actually thinking about it a lot more than she has at all.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

I'm getting the impression the Bukele is doing a Duterte thing of being a populist rabble-rouser who's low-key realigning his country towards China, away from traditional U.S. suzerainty

https://twitter.com/ReutersPolitics/status/1401093970231447553
https://twitter.com/LittleG27383051/status/1401562308682387460
https://twitter.com/Rogerh1991/status/1401640638261698561

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Duterte isn't realigning towards China though.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

He flirted with it, right? last I heard he's sort of walking the tightrope, playing both sides against each other sort of thing

Torpor
Oct 20, 2008

.. and now for my next trick, I'll pretend to be a political commentator...

HONK HONK

that’s roughly correct, it just glosses over the fact that the US was the reason they need a Marshall plan to rebuild in the first place.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

the marshall plan was largely intended to destroy leftist movements, communist agitation, and worker power so... checks out they want this for central america

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

weeeeellllll

first of all, that article's two years old

second of all, he's not wrong that people from Central America move to the US because their homes are dangerous and poor

he's almost certainly wrong that a "Marshall Plan" would fix that, since history suggests that would lead to things like: driving even more small farmers off their land by promoting "agricultural investment" in the form of giant monocropping agribusiness owned by US corporations, and militarizing local police forces that would do nothing to stop crime

probably the number one thing the US could do to help is just leave the region alone and stop intervening to make things worse, but no US politician will ever accept that they don't know best and shouldn't intervene, so they will keep "fixing" problems until the end of time

also third of all, historians now generally recognize that the Marshall Plan wasn't actually all that impactful on the European economy, and the number one thing driving recovery was that Europeans stopped killing each other and instead banded together against a common enemy--communism! probably the biggest single economic impact of the Marshall Plan was that it gave European countries that little boost they needed to be able to invest in domestic growth and fight wars against decolonization movements at the same time

incidentally, also one thing that mattered for the Marshall Plan was that the US placed few restrictions on how the money and aid was to be used, basically the only major restriction was "if you flirt with communism even a tiny bit we will cut off all aid forever", and lol just lol if anybody thinks Castro or any other US politician would be willing to hand over a bunch of aid to Central American countries with no strings attached

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Maximo Roboto posted:

He flirted with it, right? last I heard he's sort of walking the tightrope, playing both sides against each other sort of thing

Duterte actually hasn't DONE anything to weaken ties to the US. It's all lip service. He's still taking in as much west investment and aid money and milsurp as previous presidents

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

One weird trick

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011
https://twitter.com/_juanfrl/status/1402668017083949059

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
some celeb trying to get a coup going but the army is having none of it. this is such a farce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojnm9xUngAE

https://mobile.twitter.com/iCHUUYATLOML/status/1402633839592316935

https://mobile.twitter.com/MindefPeru/status/1402667413452251136

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1402725177562066944
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1402744784997871617

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011


May God bring the waters down and turn arg*ntina into the inner sea it deserves to be

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Puerto Madero has a sign that literally says "through this port civilization entered the American continent."

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!
https://twitter.com/xkukamila/status/1402711642165723144?s=20

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


lol

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/CoinDesk/status/1402015867244789760?s=20

the bitcoin boosters really don't know about US imperialism do they

Yeah, the US would never dream of intervening in El Salvador's affairs.



Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

the pencil logo really pays off, you only have to fill in the other half of the X!

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011

Dreylad posted:

the pencil logo really pays off, you only have to fill in the other half of the X!

What you need to know: How Peru Libre's harsh austerity policies are shuttering Peru's ink industry.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


it's been 12 years and Weedlord Bonerhitler still cracks me up

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


ex pats hate pencils!!

https://twitter.com/OVargas52/status/1402683086530396168

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1402993223107158031

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

I once had a Peruvian guy in Miami totally floating on his parents' credit cards and such tell me "say what you want, but Fujimori put us on the map!"

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

LETS FUCKIN GOOOOO!

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

populism updates has been suspended from twitter. i blame rightists and fujimorists

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1402993223107158031

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
surprised_pikachu.jpg

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!
Accused of the alleged crime

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/SecBlinken/status/1402757286137942017?s=20

how long before the US mines the ports again

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



gusanos gonna gusano

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
suddenly i heard the sound of hundreds of ML twitter users clicking on their keyboards to update their bios with the 🇵🇪 flag

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011
mfw she gets locked up and the swamp gets drained, but its in Peru

unbutthurtable
Dec 2, 2016

Total. Tox. Rereg.


College Slice
So I've been trying to dig into the recent elections in Mexico after keeping an eye out for AMLO stuff in the last two years (basically since people were really sloppily comparing him to Bernie Sanders in the US) and I'm kind of left wondering two things, if anyone has insights here:

What are the criticisms from the left of AMLO? I'm sure there are some, and it seems like *maybe* it's that he's approaching governance from the kind-of caricature of populism sort of way, where he's pushing programs to help the poor/disadvantaged/elderly but not actually pursing any kind of systemic reform that might undermine established power and so it's not really consistent, especially in light of a system shock like COVID. Does that make any sense?

And secondly, digging into the parties involved and the history of the last couple elections, how on earth are these electoral alliances formed? I'm trying to not be naive and assume there's some kind of simple "these are the good guys and these are the bad guys" thing going on, but it's still tough to me. And they seem to completely realign every two years! Like, just in terms of political goals, why is Movimiento Ciudadano allied with PRI when it seems like they're kind of social democratic? Like, I get why MORENA and PT are together, but then the weirdly conservative Greens are there too? My dumb outsider perspective is that it actually seems like some kind of leftish coalition is possible and could do decent numbers, but...it isn't. Are there just leaders involved that have beef and history with each other or something?

Sorry I'm a dumbass on this. I'm trying to improve my Spanish by reading La Jornada a bit, but it's slow-going and really just leaves me with more questions.

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Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

unbutthurtable posted:

So I've been trying to dig into the recent elections in Mexico after keeping an eye out for AMLO stuff in the last two years (basically since people were really sloppily comparing him to Bernie Sanders in the US) and I'm kind of left wondering two things, if anyone has insights here:

What are the criticisms from the left of AMLO? I'm sure there are some, and it seems like *maybe* it's that he's approaching governance from the kind-of caricature of populism sort of way, where he's pushing programs to help the poor/disadvantaged/elderly but not actually pursing any kind of systemic reform that might undermine established power and so it's not really consistent, especially in light of a system shock like COVID. Does that make any sense?

He's implemented a lot of austerity measures instead of raising taxes to control deficits in the past (although closed some corporate tax loopholes), and was so iffy on lockdowns, masks, and vaccines that Mexico supposedly has more "excess deaths" due to COVID than even Brazil or the U.S. He did some good stuff like increased cash payments/minimum wage/free schooling all the way through university though and cancelled a whole host of his predecessor's privatization drives

Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 00:58 on Jun 11, 2021

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