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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Oops you're right it actually says two is bad, gently caress! it says one is still decently effective and likely keeps you away from severe disease (study couldn't say so stick with what we know), and your suggestion that we vaccinate half the people in the same amount of time means more severe disease for the rest of us the half who could've gotten two doses by now will get an extra symptom or two if they catch delta, while fewer people get severe disease and there's less chance of outbreaks. oh no how could we botch it so thoroughly
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but yes my argument was actually that we shouldn't vaccinate anyone. well done, you read me like you read the chart
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You heard it here first folks, 88% effectiveness is bad.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:You heard it here first folks, 88% effectiveness is bad. It's the nazi number!
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a certain subset of doomers convinced themselves that covid was the end of the world/human civilization. they're still convinced, and any evidence to the contrary is problematic so you start getting really absurd takes when it comes to things like the actual efficacy of the vaccine
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pokeyman posted:your suggestion that we vaccinate half the people in the same amount of time means more severe disease for the rest of us The real plan should have been eradication with an actual China or Aus style lockdown and tracing, or at least wait til everyone can get jabbed before opening up everything. Unvaccinated people would die under a full 'openerup'... but I'm saying do the opposite of that- I'm really not sure why you imagined that argument on my behalf. No thanks.
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infernal machines posted:a certain subset of doomers convinced themselves that covid was the end of the world/human civilization. they're still convinced, and any evidence to the contrary is problematic so you start getting really absurd takes when it comes to things like the actual efficacy of the vaccine Yeah like "actually it's cool to
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infernal machines posted:a certain subset of doomers convinced themselves that covid was the end of the world/human civilization. they're still convinced, and any evidence to the contrary is problematic so you start getting really absurd takes when it comes to things like the actual efficacy of the vaccine Honestly if it wasn't for my unvaccinated kids I'd be out partying it up after one shot, definitely 2 weeks after my second. Hell, I'd give my kids their first dose of pfizer at the testing dose right now if I could. These vaccines are fantastic, dormers need to cheer up or shut up.
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Yeah like "actually it's cool to you had 0% protection for more than a year, how did that play out?
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infernal machines posted:you had 0% protection for more than a year, how did that play out? That's not blood in my lungs, it's victory wine 
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infernal machines posted:you had 0% protection for more than a year, how did that play out? bad, don't do this, get your shot
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infernal machines posted:a certain subset of doomers convinced themselves that covid was the end of the world/human civilization. they're still convinced, and any evidence to the contrary is problematic so you start getting really absurd takes when it comes to things like the actual efficacy of the vaccine The cspam covid thread is absolutely full of these psychotic freaks, it owns lol
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Arivia posted:bad, don't do this, get your shot i have, and will be getting a second, and that wasn't the point. the point was people are equally bad at assessing personal risk whether it's high or low. if someone is afraid to leave the house because none of the vaccines provides 100% protection, that's their choice, but for most people this means a significant improvement to their daily lives.
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infernal machines posted:you had 0% protection for more than a year, how did that play out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHwVBirqD2s But for real I did nothing and went nowhere which seems like the best way to not catch the virus, ymmv
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he should have a mask on
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infernal machines posted:i have, and will be getting a second, and that wasn't the point. the point was people are equally bad at assessing personal risk whether it's high or low. Yeah you just asked how it played out and I did not have a good time despite taking reasonable precautions 
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Arivia posted:Yeah you just asked how it played out and I did not have a good time despite taking reasonable precautions well, to be fair, that's why i didn't ask you. that sucks, and i'm sorry that you had to go through that.
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how are all of COMPAGNIE TOMMYs posts so bad
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Juul-Whip posted:how are all of COMPAGNIE TOMMYs posts so bad I am The Greatest Canadian
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wow, i didn't realize don cherry posts here
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infernal machines posted:well, to be fair, that's why i didn't ask you. that sucks, and i'm sorry that you had to go through that. Haha fair!
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infernal machines posted:a certain subset of doomers convinced themselves that covid was the end of the world/human civilization. they're still convinced, and any evidence to the contrary is problematic so you start getting really absurd takes when it comes to things like the actual efficacy of the vaccine i don't understand these people. if you need something to doom about climate change is right there.
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Jun 11, 2021 02:50
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ontario is up to 71% 12+ first shot, 11% fully vaxxed
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wait, did they open vaccinations to 12-18? i missed that. good news
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mediaphage posted:ontario is up to 71% 12+ first shot, 11% fully vaxxed first doses have kinda slowed down but second doses are going up like 1% per day, starting to have hope that i could be fully vaxxed by mid-july. my parents and my wife's parents are already double-dosed. two-dose summer? i'm thinking yes
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prom candy posted:first doses have kinda slowed down but second doses are going up like 1% per day, starting to have hope that i could be fully vaxxed by mid-july. my parents and my wife's parents are already double-dosed. two-dose summer? i'm thinking yes yea im currently set for sep 2 but i'm hoping it gets brought forward into august a bit at least
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mediaphage posted:yea im currently set for sep 2 but i'm hoping it gets brought forward into august a bit at least capacity and supply are both a lot higher than they were when the appointments were first given out. my inlaws were bumped up by like a month.
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Even though that's not at all the case, "33% protection" is huge if that's the difference between a z-score above 1 and below 1. That's the whole deal with herd immunity, no we can't eliminate viruses with a vaccine but we can stop them spreading enough that they die out. anyway I still think health authorities that go completely hog wild while vaccination is still in progress are dumb as hell and it's pretty lovely for countries that are getting ravaged by the disease but don't have vaccines yet because they all went to whiny boomers who said wearing a mask was hard and compared not being able to go to a restaurant to the Holocaust. I'm still going to take precautions until this poo poo is dead dead.
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Breaking out of my lurker shell for maaaaybe the second time? To share that a business card was stuck in my car window with weresist.ca and something something country burning. Worst case Ontario lmao
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the second pfizer shot hits pretty hard, wasn't sick or anything just felt really really sore for 24 hours
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infernal machines posted:wow, i didn't realize don cherry posts here Cherry would make a great poster Flipping between praising the troops/unions and decrying cancel culture/stumping for the Tories
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DariusLikewise posted:the second pfizer shot hits pretty hard, wasn't sick or anything just felt really really sore for 24 hours For me the sore arm isnt too bad, but Ive had some pretty intense nausea. Nothing unmanageable, but Im taking a sick day to rest and recover. Its a little unpleasant, but I have zero regrets. So glad to get it done.
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DariusLikewise posted:the second pfizer shot hits pretty hard, wasn't sick or anything just felt really really sore for 24 hours I'd take that over the first shot. It kicked my already bad allergies into overdrive and made existing quite unpleasant. Sore would be nicer for me I think.
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Blood Boils posted:Cherry would make a great poster when did cherry praise unions (besides cops/firefighters)?
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sorry about a Vice link butVice posted:People in Canada Are Cancelling Canada Day That major city they allude to is Victoria. I dunno if itll get traction nationally, but Im down for #CancelCanadaDay https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dbd48/people-in-canada-are-cancelling-canada-day
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BGrifter posted:sorry about a Vice link but I love this. Let's just cancel nationalism altogether. Seriously. You can't have wars without nationalism.
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Another Bill posted:Let's just cancel nationalism altogether.
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