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Bucnasti posted:There are many sources for female marine heads. Oh nice, even better. I’ll have to buy a few instead of scrounging for bits. Edit: uhh first post tax: 
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Male space marines need giant gilt-edged purity seal encrusted codpieces.
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Jun 10, 2021 17:59
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Primaris marines were the perfect opportunity for GW to introduce female Marine by giving some technobabble about how the new process works on both males and females. But GW chose the coward's route.
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Jun 10, 2021 18:01
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Floppychop posted:Primaris marines were the perfect opportunity for GW to introduce female Marine by giving some technobabble about how the new process works on both males and females. But GW chose the coward's route. I was so annoyed that they didn't take that chance. Perfect in-lore opportunity to add them to the game, and since they're releasing a whole new line of models, perfect time to add some sculpts. GW always chooses the coward's route.
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Jun 10, 2021 18:03
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Fashionable Jorts posted:I was so annoyed that they didn't take that chance. Perfect in-lore opportunity to add them to the game, and since they're releasing a whole new line of models, perfect time to add some sculpts. Then you get nerds like me that hate the sculpts where GW forces the model to have their helmet off. Space Marines are basically soulless murder robots made from flesh instead of metal, I don't need to see some generic grimacing face. Also when almost all my models are helmeted I can make chuds pissy when they ask about them and I respond with "oh yeah, some of them are female, and the majority aren't white" or whatever response will get them most riled up. And to add to the thread: 
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Jun 10, 2021 19:18
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Sisters exist to fill the void of female Primaris Marines. 
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Jun 10, 2021 20:53
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Floppychop posted:Then you get nerds like me that hate the sculpts where GW forces the model to have their helmet off. Space Marines are basically soulless murder robots made from flesh instead of metal, I don't need to see some generic grimacing face. All this is missing is some hardbass
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Jun 10, 2021 20:54
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AndyElusive posted:Sisters exist to fill the void of female Primaris Marines. Not really, both from a gameplay and lore perspective. While having similar statlines, Sisters are just people with good training and equipment. Marines and Primaris are essentially inhuman monsters, engineered to defend mankind while not really belonging or fitting in. A marine cant retire and take off their armour and go live a normal life. Also sisters are still gross male gaze models, what with their shapely corset armour, boob-plate, form fitting thighs, and Battle High Heels (and don't even get me started on Repentia). Sure, not as bad as many other lines of women models out there, but far from great. Edit: In-canon the fact that Marines are male only because *reasons*, and Sisters of Battle exist as an entity because of a legal loophole, doesn't really come across as good representation. Fashionable Jorts fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 10, 2021 |
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Jun 10, 2021 21:29
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Ignoring lore for a moment and looking at it from an outside perspective, then there are tiny plastic men in suits of power armor and tiny plastic women in suits of power armor. They both fight on the same side. Really the only issue here is the boob armor on the tiny plastic women.
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Jun 10, 2021 21:39
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Moola posted:this is how cool femarines could look if GW were not cowards Especially Space Wolves. If you're doing the whole viking schtick you need Valkyries. AndyElusive posted:Stormcasts are cool and good since they're both male and female. AoS is pretty dope these days. AoS 3 is making me consider a Stormcast army.
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Jun 10, 2021 21:46
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Fashionable Jorts posted:(and don't even get me started on Repentia) The new Repentia are a lot better: 
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Jun 10, 2021 21:54
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Cessna posted:The new Repentia are a lot better: I that a chain mail garter on the left? 
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Jun 10, 2021 23:15
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:I that a chain mail garter on the left? Repentia are into the sackcloth and ashes mortification poo poo so it's probably supposed to be a chain cilice.
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Jun 11, 2021 00:37
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Cessna posted:The new Repentia are a lot better: Ya those loving rule.
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Jun 11, 2021 01:01
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:I that a chain mail garter on the left? Basically the equivalent of full plate mail as far as fantasy armor goes.
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Jun 11, 2021 04:38
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AndyElusive posted:Ya those loving rule. I look at those and see modern shorts, shirts, and running shoes. Someone did a little photoshopping and now I'm bummed this wasn't the route GW chose. 
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Jun 11, 2021 07:01
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I mean that's cool as hell too. The ones GW made are perfect for conversions and customization, so I'm more bummed that nobody has green stuffed a model to look like that Photoshop yet.
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Jun 11, 2021 07:22
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Cessna posted:The new Repentia are a lot better: They look like prison/asylum escapees, Sarah Connor in T2. Not bad.
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Jun 11, 2021 09:43
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Cessna posted:Especially Space Wolves. If you're doing the whole viking schtick you need Valkyries. And Space Wolves are precisely the type to say "You know what? Women are badass." and tell
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Jun 11, 2021 10:16
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AndyElusive posted:Really the only issue here is the boob armor on the tiny plastic women. Yeah, they've lost the conical and skull boobplates! The Lone Badger posted:And Space Wolves are precisely the type to say "You know what? Women are badass." and tell Was reading Godblight and there's a lovely line from Gulliman to an (even more stick up the arse) Custodes about how he's lucky he wasn't speaking to Russ because Russ would punch him in the face for not laughing at his joke. Z the IVth fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Jun 11, 2021 10:35
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AndyElusive posted:Ignoring lore for a moment and looking at it from an outside perspective, then there are tiny plastic men in suits of power armor and tiny plastic women in suits of power armor. They both fight on the same side. It's actually a lot more complicated than this We chatted about it in the spec games thread for a while, which has some interesting view points if you feel like diving more deeply into the femarines issue
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Jun 11, 2021 12:07
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Moola posted:It's actually a lot more complicated than this got a link?
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Jun 11, 2021 12:11
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nope!
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Jun 11, 2021 12:24
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While Sisters are *effectively* female space marines, GW took the problematic approach of trading an all-male army for an all-female army. It's a polarised approach to diversity where you get both genders in the game but have to pick all of one or all of the other. I hadn't thought about it before but yeah, they could have resolved it with the move to Primaris marines. It would have actually been a solid reason why they had to write a simple sculpting scale change awkwardly into game lore. Oh well.
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Jun 11, 2021 13:27
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You’ll regret the day you interfered with Lady Primaritrescu
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Ugleb posted:While Sisters are *effectively* female space marines, GW took the problematic approach of trading an all-male army for an all-female army. I mean, souping is a thing. Sure it's not optimal, but for narrative games it can be fun. The trailer video for 9th ed had Sisters and Ultramarines fighting side by side, with scenes featuring characters from both factions saving the asses of each other.
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Jun 11, 2021 15:17
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Cessna posted:The new Repentia are a lot better: Oh, I love the look of the new Repentia. They are terrifying and powerful. But the idea of "these women sinned too hard and now have to fight until they die - naked" is a bit... Uhh...
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Jun 11, 2021 19:30
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Oh, I love the look of the new Repentia. They are terrifying and powerful. A bit too much like Dwarf Slayers?
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Fashionable Jorts posted:Oh, I love the look of the new Repentia. They are terrifying and powerful. Ken Russell presents...?
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Jun 11, 2021 21:02
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Fashionable Jorts posted:But the idea of "these women sinned too hard and now have to fight until they die - naked" is a bit... Uhh... They're moving away from "naked," which is good - these are a big improvement over the old Repentia. I'll admit to owning a bunch of the metal ones from back in the day, but they were pretty embarrassing. Personally I think Repentia should wear some sort of tattered rags, like a hair-shirt. It fits in with the whole "painful religious repentance" theme. As far as the "sinned, have to die" thing I think it fits in with 40K. There's already a lot of heavily Catholic imagery there, and there are broadly similar themes in other armies, like the Blood Angels Death Company. Cessna fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Jun 11, 2021 22:17
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Isn't the definition of "sinned" pretty loose in the lore too? Like they encourage sisters who idly thought about maybe wanting to become a farmer instead of going up against an infinite tide of extra-galactic gribbles that they've committed unforgivable heresy so they can get more shock troops.
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Len posted:got a link? If you read about 3 pages starting from here, you'll get most or all of it: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3804679&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=235#post514986543
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Jun 11, 2021 23:10
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I thought also that if you survive multiple battles then you get to put the armour back on.
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Jun 11, 2021 23:36
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darkwasthenight posted:Isn't the definition of "sinned" pretty loose in the lore too? Like they encourage sisters who idly thought about maybe wanting to become a farmer instead of going up against an infinite tide of extra-galactic gribbles that they've committed unforgivable heresy so they can get more shock troops. Yup, even stuff like a tactical retreat can be repentia-worthy sin if the higher ups deem it so. The Lone Badger posted:I thought also that if you survive multiple battles then you get to put the armour back on. They do. But also if they gently caress up again while a reptentia they get strapped to a penitent engine.
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Jun 12, 2021 02:15
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Do you think those repentia who get their armour back get looked down on by the other sisters?
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Jun 12, 2021 10:01
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They probably have a “she did her time and is cleansed of sin” attitude
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Jun 12, 2021 12:51
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The aesthetic of sisters and dudemarines works, they should just do a third, coed faction of slightly-more-human armored badasses imo
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Jun 12, 2021 12:58
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The Guard?
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Jun 12, 2021 13:32
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aphid_licker posted:The aesthetic of sisters and dudemarines works, they should just do a third, coed faction of slightly-more-human armored badasses imo The Imperial Guard would like you to know that they are the most inclusive military organisation in the galaxy. Sometimes they'll even take you if you tick "Genestealer" in that box. They're very heavily armoured and are badasses to boot. E:fb
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aphid_licker posted:The aesthetic of sisters and dudemarines works, they should just do a third, coed faction of slightly-more-human armored badasses imo My issue is that Space Marines are the main character protagonist number 1 guys of the game, and even though sisters are much more popular and better represented these days, they are still the "girl team". And they also still lean on the side of male gazey
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