[P/I] American engineering is pierless

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Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/IbnRiad/status/1403024904530898948?s=20
https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1403024615451025414?s=20

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Mywhatacleanturtle: Jul 23, 2006

the only thing Israel learned from the Holocaust was �we can do it better�.

# ? Jun 10, 2021 17:31

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

crepeface posted:

checkmate palestinestans

shouldn�t the first map be this mess

# ? Jun 10, 2021 17:31

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

hobbesmaster posted:

shouldn’t the first map be this mess

Israel deserves Moab

Lots of Moab

# ? Jun 10, 2021 17:40

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

hobbesmaster posted:

shouldn�t the first map be this mess

Which RPG is this from?

# ? Jun 10, 2021 19:35

ohrwurm: Jun 25, 2003

say what you will about the reuben tribe, they invented a tasty sandwich

# ? Jun 10, 2021 19:38

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/malsaafin/status/1402977905584525315?s=20
dti

Lol Israel is even better at hosed up prisons than america is, somehow

# ? Jun 10, 2021 19:46

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

etalian posted:

Which RPG is this from?

crusader kings -3

# ? Jun 10, 2021 19:48

Hedenius: Aug 23, 2007

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/malsaafin/status/1402977905584525315?s=20

The idea of a volunteer prison guard is loving bone-chilling.

# ? Jun 10, 2021 22:39

Chard: Aug 24, 2010

Hedenius posted:

The idea of a volunteer prison guard is loving bone-chilling.

its a honeypot for sociopaths but the trap is actually just money and prestige

# ? Jun 10, 2021 22:49

F Stop Fitzgerald: Dec 12, 2010

Hedenius posted:

The idea of a volunteer prison guard is loving bone-chilling.

i think it means volunteering instead of being conscripted to the position, so it also should describe every US prison guard too

# ? Jun 10, 2021 22:51

Reverend Dr: Feb 9, 2005; Thanks Reverend

etalian posted:

Which RPG is this from?

zionbourne clock

# ? Jun 10, 2021 23:02

human garbage bag: Jan 8, 2020; by Fluffdaddy

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/malsaafin/status/1402977905584525315?s=20

was this released as part of an investigation into prison guard brutality? did the guards not know there were security cameras? this is just one trigger pull away from an ISIS-style massacre.

# ? Jun 10, 2021 23:16

Gumball Gumption: Jan 7, 2012

Hedenius posted:

The idea of a volunteer prison guard is loving bone-chilling.

That's pretty much every prison guard.

# ? Jun 10, 2021 23:19

Hedenius: Aug 23, 2007

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

i think it means volunteering instead of being conscripted to the position, so it also should describe every US prison guard too

I looked it up and it was what he did when he served in the IDF. But the bit on wikipedia about it is something else...

wikipedia posted:

He left college to move to Israel, where he served in the Israeli Defense Forces during the First Intifada as a prison guard at Ktzi'ot Prison, a prison camp set up to hold arrested Palestinian participants in the uprising. There he met Rafiq Hijazi, a Palestine Liberation Organization leader, college math teacher, and devout Muslim from a refugee camp in the Gaza Strip, whom Goldberg describes as "the only Palestinian I could find in Ketziot who understood the moral justification for Zionism".

I wonder why Palestinians in an interment camp run by the IDF didn't understand the moral justification for Zionism. He even wrote a book about it!

quote:

Prisoners: A Muslim and a Jew Across the Middle East Divide (New York: Knopf, 2006), describes Goldberg's experiences in Israel working at the Ketziot military prison camp as well as his dialogue with Rafiq, a prisoner whom Goldberg would later befriend in Washington, DC.

The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times named it one of the best books of 2006.

The Los Angeles Times critic wrote, "Realization of the humanity of the �other� is at the heart of New Yorker magazine correspondent Jeffrey Goldberg's sharply observed and beautifully written memoir." The New York Times critic wrote, "Mr. Goldberg, a talented and ambitious writer for the New Yorker ... takes an engagingly personal approach to the issue in his story of a quest for mutual understanding with a Palestinian activist who had been his prisoner ... For the bittersweet complexity of that moment, offered in the context of all that has preceded it, this is a genuinely admirable book."

The Washington Post review of the book noted, "Prisoners is Jeffrey Goldberg's sensitive, forthright and perceptive account of his years as a soldier and journalist in Israel�and of his long-running conversation with a Palestinian whom he once kept under lock and key. It is a forceful reminder of how rewarding, and how difficult, discourse between Israelis and Palestinians can be." CBS News critic wrote, "There is no shortage of histories, polemics and policy manuals about the Middle East. An honest but complex story, from what happens to be a personal perspective that many Americans can at least conjure, is a rarer opportunity for insight. And that is what Jeffrey Goldberg, a reporter for The New Yorker, delivers in Prisoners. To those of us who have followed Jeffrey Goldberg�s reporting on the Muslim world, the publication of his first book is cause for real pleasure...because his writing on the subject has always been exceptional: wise, unpretentious, and at times, unexpectedly funny."

And I urge you to read this part from his article: How Did I Get Iraq Wrong?

quote:

How did I get Iraq wrong?

Well, for one thing, I trusted the Germans. Those who know me will find this statement somewhat ironic, but there it is.

I trusted one German in particular. His name was August Hanning. In the run-up to the war, he was the chief of the BND, the German foreign-intelligence agency. I met him shortly before the war at the new chancellery building opposite the Reichstag in Berlin. He was spectrally thin and exceedingly sober. His briefcase was the size of a microwave oven. I pictured many consequential documents sequestered inside.

Despite his cautious nature, Hanning neither hemmed nor hawed when I raised the subject of Saddam�s nuclear program: �It is our estimate that Iraq will have an atomic bomb in three years,� he said, on the record and for attribution.

Apart from Kenneth Pollack�s book The Threatening Storm, nothing did more to convince me of the national-security necessity of the Iraq war than Hanning�s statement. The BND had apparently developed a good deal of information about what was happening inside Iraq, in part because German companies, especially those that manufactured so-called dual-use products�ones that had both civilian and military applications�did disproportionate business in Baghdad. And Hanning seemed particularly credible to me because his analysis so obviously cut against the desires of his bosses. Then-Chancellor Gerhard Schr�der was vociferously opposed to armed intervention in Iraq. Hanning, in other words, was behaving in precisely the manner in which intelligence analysts should behave. He laid out the truth as he saw it, taking no notice of the personal consequences. To Schr�der�s credit, Hanning was allowed to share his intelligence with the CIA, and by doing so he helped buttress the Anglo-American case for war.

He was, of course, wrong. Did this make him a liar? No. It made him an intelligence official. Did this make Gerhard Schr�der smart? No. It made him lucky. August Hanning was a smart, honest man who made a mistake.

If one of my mistakes was to trust men like August Hanning, another larger mistake was to put my trust in the Bush administration, not so much on matters of intelligence�faulty intelligence was a near-universal phenomenon�but on matters of basic competence. I will admit to a prejudice here: I believed�note the tense, please�that Republicans were by nature ruthless, unsentimental, efficient, and, most of all, preoccupied with winning. It simply never occurred to me that Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney would allow themselves to lose a war. Which is what they have very nearly done.

# ? Jun 11, 2021 00:48

Groovelord Neato: Dec 6, 2014

I'd never heard Eve Fartlow talk before and she has a loving Scottish accent lmao

# ? Jun 11, 2021 00:55

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

https://twitter.com/aptly_engineerd/status/1403119436387688452

https://twitter.com/aptly_engineerd/status/1403123044881616902

wow turns out this hen mazzig guy is a real piece of poo poo, i wouldnt have guessed he seemed so nice

# ? Jun 11, 2021 03:50

SKULL.GIF: Jan 20, 2017

etalian posted:

Which RPG is this from?

Xenogears

# ? Jun 11, 2021 04:09

Agrajag: Jan 21, 2006; gat dang thats hot

crepeface posted:

checkmate palestinestans

this is a stupid fantasy map

# ? Jun 11, 2021 15:24

Agrajag: Jan 21, 2006; gat dang thats hot

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/malsaafin/status/1402977905584525315?s=20
dti

this is so incredibly hosed up

# ? Jun 11, 2021 15:26

skooma512: Feb 8, 2012; You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Imagine thinking what happened in 1000 BCE entitles you to anything 3000 years later.

# ? Jun 11, 2021 17:28

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/jvplive/status/1403384081946091527?s=20

Don't know if this is effective, but it is very funny

# ? Jun 11, 2021 17:40

Wraith of J.O.I.: Jan 25, 2012

this kinda owns

https://twitter.com/jeremyslevin/status/1403387638044897281

# ? Jun 11, 2021 18:47

Judakel: Jul 29, 2004; Can't post for 9 years!

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

this kinda owns

https://twitter.com/jeremyslevin/status/1403387638044897281

it really does.

# ? Jun 11, 2021 18:51

Broken Box: Jan 29, 2009

SKULL.GIF posted:

Xenogears

:hmmyes:

Broken Box has issued a correction as of 19:58 on Jun 11, 2021

# ? Jun 11, 2021 19:46

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1403384229048815622?s=20

# ? Jun 11, 2021 19:54

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

this kinda owns

https://twitter.com/jeremyslevin/status/1403387638044897281

I can't believe her opponents are making campaign material for her

# ? Jun 11, 2021 19:55

Hedenius: Aug 23, 2007

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1403384229048815622?s=20

loving hell.

# ? Jun 11, 2021 21:24

Agrajag: Jan 21, 2006; gat dang thats hot

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1403384229048815622?s=20

plaestinians still being genocided by israel but the only difference is the media got bored and moved on

# ? Jun 11, 2021 21:29

Grimson: Dec 16, 2004

https://twitter.com/suhibep/status/1403082133028196356?s=20

# ? Jun 11, 2021 21:40

Hedenius: Aug 23, 2007

https://twitter.com/jtruzmah/status/1403426814484115457?s=21

# ? Jun 11, 2021 21:48

Tubgoat: Jun 30, 2013; by sebmojo

There are no words that won't get me banned.

# ? Jun 11, 2021 21:55

Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009

Hedenius posted:

https://twitter.com/jtruzmah/status/1403426814484115457?s=21

lmao

# ? Jun 11, 2021 21:59

Neurolimal: Nov 3, 2012

Tbf the statement (at least machine translated by google) isnt very negative on Ilhan, they use the term 'surprised' and notes her as a defender of palestinian rights

# ? Jun 11, 2021 22:01