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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1403307288346120196

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Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Chairman Xi saving us gamers from crypto scalper scum.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Cookie Cutter posted:

I think this Amnesty International report that's just come out is worth a bit of deeper attention, as you can bet yer rear end it will be used as a bludgeon by the anti-China/pro-US crowd in the coming days and weeks.

https://xinjiang.amnesty.org/

My initial reaction is to keep in mind that AI was originally founded as a UK intelligence asset and has historically taken a pro-West line including spreading the classic "soldiers taking babies from incubators" lie used to justify the Iraq war, so they're not exactly an unbiased source of information - but despite this bias they still don't go so far as to call anything a genocide. In fact Ctrl-F-ing the word "genocide" in the full report returns only one reference article from The Economist titled "Genocide is the wrong word for the horrors of Xinjiang".
Anyone have any more thoughts or insights into AI or this report?

108 people were interviewed for this report: 55 former detainees of internment camps in Xinjiang (37 men and 16 women), 15 other people who lived in or visited Xinjiang since 2017, and 48 family members of people from Xinjiang who are currently missing or detained. The majority of the interviewees were Kazakh, a minority were Uyghurs, and a small number were Kyrgyz, or Han Chinese.

wait what???

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Southpaugh posted:

Chairman Xi saving us gamers from crypto scalper scum.

thank you xi!

finally i might be able to get a 3070 or 3080 or someshit at a reasonable price!

haha who am i kidding nvidia aint droppping them prices ever

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Raskolnikov38 posted:

108 people were interviewed for this report: 55 former detainees of internment camps in Xinjiang (37 men and 16 women), 15 other people who lived in or visited Xinjiang since 2017, and 48 family members of people from Xinjiang who are currently missing or detained. The majority of the interviewees were Kazakh, a minority were Uyghurs, and a small number were Kyrgyz, or Han Chinese.

wait what???

Are you denying the Kazakh genocide?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/AkbayanParty/status/1403350250127958024

Context: Akbayan is the "social democrat" party, as opposed to the Makabayan bloc, which are a coalition of socialist parties.

Akbayan's representative in Congress used to be Walden Bello, who has a fairly impressive resume:

quote:

Bello received his Ph.D. in sociology from Princeton in 1975 after completing his doctoral dissertation titled "The roots and dynamics of revolution and counterrevolution in Chile." he then became part of the anti-Marcos movement, began teaching at the University of California, Berkeley and became a member of the Communist Party of the Philippines. In 1978 after being arrested multiple times during protests, he was arrested after leading the takeover of the Philippine consulate in San Francisco. Bello was later released following a hunger strike to bring attention to the situation the Philippines was facing. In the early-1980s, Bello also broke into the World Bank headquarters and stole 3,000 pages of confidential documents that he said would show the connection of the IMF and World Bank to Marcos. He later wrote Development Debacle: the World Bank in the Philippines in 1982 surrounding the documents stating that this publication contributed toward the 1986 People Power Revolution in the Philippines, with Bello returning to his native state two years later.

In 1995, Bello co-founded Focus on the Global South, a policy research institute based in Bangkok, Thailand. Bello had also led teach-ins during the 1999 Seattle WTO protests and protested internationally against globalization at the 2001 G8 summit, the WTO Ministerial Conference of 2003, the WTO Ministerial Conference of 2005 and was banned from the 2006 World Bank-IMF Conference in Singapore.

The US Socialist Worker described Bello as "one of the most articulate and prolific voices on the international left" and that "he has devoted most of his life to fighting imperialism and corporate globalization". Bello was also a supporter of Hugo Chávez and was impressed by his opposition to the United States, stating after Chávez's death that he was "a class act, one impossible to follow. Wherever you are right now, give ’em hell".

He left Akbayan in 2015 because the party had thrown in its lot with the Liberal Party under then-President Benigno Aquino.

Currently, Akbayan has one seat in the House, and one Senator in the upper chamber, but they caucus and vote with the liberals all the time, and this latest back-stabbing just seals the deal.

You can't fall for the reactionary right's accusation that serving members of the House are actually stealth communist insurgents and still credibly claim to be a leftist.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Some Guy TT posted:

so what youre saying is that putins master plan when he rigged the election for trump was to exacerbate relations with iran so he could be buddies with the ayatollah how fiendish good thing bidens gonna tell putin no more iranian provocation right

right?

lol submit this with under a name with an official sounding title to rachel maddow

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Raskolnikov38 posted:

108 people were interviewed for this report: 55 former detainees of internment camps in Xinjiang (37 men and 16 women), 15 other people who lived in or visited Xinjiang since 2017, and 48 family members of people from Xinjiang who are currently missing or detained. The majority of the interviewees were Kazakh, a minority were Uyghurs, and a small number were Kyrgyz, or Han Chinese.

wait what???

a lot of the western media about it has been from interviews with Kazakh ethnic people too, not just this. I think it's because they do the interviews in Kazakhstan where refugees have escaped to, which obviously has a bias for Kazakhs

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/china_takes/status/1403379042548518914?s=20

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Zmej posted:

lol look at all those crackers.

Leibold is part of the Jamestown ghoul thinktank and has co-published with Zenz (who is also part of Jamestown). iirc they've cited each other too, you know like a 2 girls 1 cup situations, but it's a pervert german and australian

jamestown is a very good source for what warmongering neolibs actually think and advise to our ghoulish policymakers


you know they are doing serious research because instead of a dragon, they use the chinese script on their cover over a red background

very impressive scholarship

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

lmao

https://twitter.com/cnnasiapr/status/1403231270474194945

e: ahaha

F Stop Fitzgerald has issued a correction as of 19:39 on Jun 11, 2021

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

bikini bod

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1403418676490117122

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
good guys on all sides

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

give the man his due

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

lmao theyre really grasping at nothing here huh

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/iam_fernando/status/1403406890391031812?s=20

https://twitter.com/FetsKatze/status/1403420925769437184?s=20

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Reading the doomsday economics thread and it's pretty incredible that unironic ironic racist redtext avatar buys are supposed to own people.

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

buzzfeed won a Pulitzer for looking at some satellite photos and being like wow this place has a wall. must be a prison

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

a fatguy baldspot posted:

buzzfeed won a Pulitzer for looking at some satellite photos and being like wow this place has a wall. must be a prison

don't forget first hand testimonies of employees of the Center for Strategic and International Studies and the Uyghur American Association

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

don't forget first hand testimonies of employees of the Center for Strategic and International Studies and the Uyghur American Association

are they getting brainwaves from the international Uyghur psychic gestalt

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

he's right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LxORztUWY

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1403436506555961344

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
yeah I have a little dick but I got this job though

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

a fatguy baldspot posted:

buzzfeed won a Pulitzer for looking at some satellite photos and being like wow this place has a wall. must be a prison

It's so funny that we're just creating a full on cottage industry of perverts funded by the CIA going 'why would the treacherous Han build a wall if not to rape Muslims behind it????' and pretending a place you can just loving go and look at is Auschwitz 2. and the vanguard of that is loving Buzzfeed.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
truly the only way the new cold war could start was the same site that writes 25 surprising ways child stars got fat looking at a picture of a building and going 'I bet they're murdering people in there' with no evidence.

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

sexpig by night posted:

It's so funny that we're just creating a full on cottage industry of perverts funded by the CIA going 'why would the treacherous Han build a wall if not to rape Muslims behind it????' and pretending a place you can just loving go and look at is Auschwitz 2. and the vanguard of that is loving Buzzfeed.

theres no lack of american schools surrounded with barbed wire, armed guards, and cctv

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


i really gotta say that in contrast to all the common hand gestures were now supposed to associate with nazis the pinching thing both seems like a rational interpretation and something that the people complaining about it have actually seen deliberately directed at them

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

theres no lack of american schools surrounded with barbed wire, armed guards, and cctv

I remember my neighborhood elementary school in Baton Rouge had barbed wire fences, and it was to keep deadbeat parents out who would try to kidnap their kids during recess.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/edolinsky/status/1393160055780958215?s=21

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

vladimir schukin my dick

edit i'm sorry that's very sad

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
ok but what did he do, maybe he murdered someone else first and this was revenge. withholding judgement until all the facts are in

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

lmfao

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

uho h

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
i had to google and that city is in ukraine

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
is there a straight throughline from gladio to NED and color revolutions

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

paul_soccer12 posted:

is there a straight throughline from gladio to NED and color revolutions

Dr Gene Sharp is the bridge between NED and CANAS/Otpor, and from Otpor into the rest of the Color Revolution strategy of regime change

from Gene Sharp, you go back to DARPA, the RAND Corporation, and the Ford Foundation

https://dedona.wordpress.com/2017/04/15/the-new-gladio-in-action-jonathan-mowat/

the lines between Gladio and Color Revolutions blur and are indistinct precisely because the latter was supposed to be a "new" method of executing regime change, because they were operating in former Soviet states and because Gladio had its whistle blown

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Raskolnikov38 posted:

108 people were interviewed for this report: 55 former detainees of internment camps in Xinjiang (37 men and 16 women), 15 other people who lived in or visited Xinjiang since 2017, and 48 family members of people from Xinjiang who are currently missing or detained. The majority of the interviewees were Kazakh, a minority were Uyghurs, and a small number were Kyrgyz, or Han Chinese.

wait what???

They're mostly Kazakh because there's an Almaty-based NGO that funnels testimony to reporters and groups sources for interviews junket-style.

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Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Raskolnikov38 posted:

108 people were interviewed for this report: 55 former detainees of internment camps in Xinjiang (37 men and 16 women), 15 other people who lived in or visited Xinjiang since 2017, and 48 family members of people from Xinjiang who are currently missing or detained. The majority of the interviewees were Kazakh, a minority were Uyghurs, and a small number were Kyrgyz, or Han Chinese.

wait what???

been reading the buzzfeed pulitzer thing & it mentions theres a theres a resettlement policy for ethnic kazakhs to go to Kazakhstan so a bias seems inevitable

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